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DreamThinkBuild

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3345 on: June 11, 2015, 05:48:35 AM »
Hi Lawrence,

The forces aren't imaginary as long as you stay away from the term centrifugal. :)

Mark II Slingatron Test Launch of 1/2 Pound Payload
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snYAbkGWyzQ

Portable Mini Slingatron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXKb75boOMg

For power generation replace ball bearing with neo sphere and direct it through a plastic pipe wrapped with coils into cap bank. At the end have a copper pipe to slow the neo sphere down with eddy currents.

Edit: Image source: Slingatron - A Mechanical Hypervelocity Mass Accelerator by Derek a Tidman

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3346 on: June 11, 2015, 08:09:00 AM »
Hi Lawrence,

The forces aren't imaginary as long as you stay away from the term centrifugal. :)

Mark II Slingatron Test Launch of 1/2 Pound Payload
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snYAbkGWyzQ

Portable Mini Slingatron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXKb75boOMg

For power generation replace ball bearing with neo sphere and direct it through a plastic pipe wrapped with coils into cap bank. At the end have a copper pipe to slow the neo sphere down with eddy currents.

Edit: Image source: Slingatron - A Mechanical Hypervelocity Mass Accelerator by Derek a Tidman
Note that in order to convey force into the sling, the person swinging it must also exert force against the ground that person stands upon.  Absent some much larger mass to work against, then the person counter rotates versus the slung mass preserving the angular momentum of the system.  The person can only change their own momentum by changing the mass of their local system.  If they eject mass, then we call such a machine a rocket, and we call the ejected material rocket propellant.  Lawrence's idea literally has not got a leg to stand on.

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3347 on: June 11, 2015, 10:50:59 AM »
Hi Lawrence,

The forces aren't imaginary as long as you stay away from the term centrifugal. :)

Mark II Slingatron Test Launch of 1/2 Pound Payload
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snYAbkGWyzQ

Portable Mini Slingatron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXKb75boOMg

For power generation replace ball bearing with neo sphere and direct it through a plastic pipe wrapped with coils into cap bank. At the end have a copper pipe to slow the neo sphere down with eddy currents.

Edit: Image source: Slingatron - A Mechanical Hypervelocity Mass Accelerator by Derek a Tidman

Let us use the term "force due to circular motion".  We can still use the term CF to denote the force...

We can say that the flying saucer can be powered by the difference in CF force due to difference in angular velocity at the top and bottom part of the rotation.


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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3348 on: June 11, 2015, 01:18:26 PM »
Let us use the term "force due to circular motion".  We can still use the term CF to denote the force...

We can say that the flying saucer can be powered by the difference in CF force due to difference in angular velocity at the top and bottom part of the rotation.
You can say such things and you will be wrong.  You cannot beat First Principles.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3349 on: June 11, 2015, 03:07:01 PM »

For power generation replace ball bearing with neo sphere and direct it through a plastic pipe wrapped with coils into cap bank. At the end have a copper pipe to slow the neo sphere down with eddy currents.

this seems an annoying way to calculate the energies.

Why not point the thing vertically upwards and observe the height the ball reaches.

Energy in = motor's voltage x current and time.

Energy out =  Mass . G . Height

(You could do it by measuring velocity and K.E. but that is trickier)

« Last Edit: June 11, 2015, 06:09:02 PM by Paul-R »

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3350 on: June 11, 2015, 10:52:54 PM »
Design Document in Chinese By Mr. C.C. Yuen.

The document is not an engineering specification yet.  More work needs to be done.  It is better to let some engineers shine.

Let them share in the serving of the Divine Wine.

Lawrence
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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3351 on: June 12, 2015, 10:30:52 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3swu_lC-7zc

Nazi flying saucer development in War World II.

Our new Flying Saucer will benefit the World.  The theory is very easy to understand.  King David Sling.

One Question: "Can Hong Kong build a Flying Saucer similar to that in reply 3355?"




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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3352 on: June 13, 2015, 01:47:52 AM »
List the advantages of developing the Flying Saucer.

1. No need to move air or eject hot gases.
2. Can fly in outer space as well as on Earth.
3. Quick turns using CF forces.  Star war defenses become useless.
4. Vertical take-off and landing.  Better than helicopters.
5. No need for airports.
6. Every home can have a flying saucer in the garage or balcony.
7. Freedom to travel across oceans or National boundaries.
8. Use of lead-out energy that is clean and plentiful.
9. Stimulate the creativity of the Citizens.  Another industrial revolution?
10. No need to conquer other nations for resources.  No more wars?
11. Knowledge and technology can be shared to benefit all.  Share the Divine Wine.
12. Give rise to other technologies such traffic control, auto-pilots etc.  Scientific boundary expanded.
13. Travel to outer space and contact aliens.

Which Nation has the financial, technical and attitude resources to lead such development?  Do we need to wait for USA or China?

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3353 on: June 13, 2015, 03:29:10 AM »
List the advantages of developing the Flying Saucer.

1. No need to move air or eject hot gases.
2. Can fly in outer space as well as on Earth.
3. Quick turns using CF forces.  Star war defenses become useless.
4. Vertical take-off and landing.  Better than helicopters.
5. No need for airports.
6. Every home can have a flying saucer in the garage or balcony.
7. Freedom to travel across oceans or National boundaries.
8. Use of lead-out energy that is clean and plentiful.
9. Stimulate the creativity of the Citizens.  Another industrial revolution?
10. No need to conquer other nations for resources.  No more wars?
11. Knowledge and technology can be shared to benefit all.  Share the Divine Wine.
12. Give rise to other technologies such traffic control, auto-pilots etc.  Scientific boundary expanded.
13. Travel to outer space and contact aliens.

Which Nation has the financial, technical and attitude resources to lead such development?  Do we need to wait for USA or China?

Lawrence
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Hi Larry,

You might want to get in touch with ATOM1 over at
http://overunity.com/14003/breaking-news-finally-a-real-free-energy-magnet-motor/msg452720/#new

He is all about flying saucers and has government backing.  Honestly, I am not joking, I saw it on the internet.


And if you will indulge me, I would just like to add 1 dis-advantages of developing the Flying Saucer.

1. They will never work  using any of your ideas (unbalanced or not)

Pete

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3354 on: June 13, 2015, 12:19:52 PM »

Hi Larry,

You might want to get in touch with ATOM1 over at
http://overunity.com/14003/breaking-news-finally-a-real-free-energy-magnet-motor/msg452720/#new

He is all about flying saucers and has government backing.  Honestly, I am not joking, I saw it on the internet.


And if you will indulge me, I would just like to add 1 dis-advantages of developing the Flying Saucer.

1. They will never work  using any of your ideas (unbalanced or not)

Pete

IT TRULY WORRIES ME THAT THE TALANT HERE NEED TO VIEW A FREE ENERGY TECHNOLOGY ???? Let alone a daft German one no disrespect to the inventor ..... I have a small government grant to build these generators in the UK but that money is way short of setting up a production line and one at a time is hard work..... Anyone interested in building a million watt one pump it to the grid and off sale the cheap electricity ten years in advance on the futures markets  ???? I hate getting down to boring details the last part is the land site ???

I want to build a centre of excellence for all things that make us tick flying saucers cellular regeneration facilities ET contact communication post ect ect .......................................................

I once had 300 staff it all got a bit to much so I gave it up and went into research I am 48 now what more can I say ........

Free energy that my friends is very simple indeed, but the mind set of many researchers of its all mine or I need to see it to believe it or there going to kill you or the cant be bothered  and the paranoid ones with a lot of the jealous envious ones and the liars cheats mind manipulators criminals are far more dodgy that the men in black hahahah ..

Now who is it here that said he can build anything ?????????????


Regards

ATOM1
 

http://overunity.com/1763/12-times-more-output-than-input-dual-mechanical-oscillation-system/msg452728/#msg452728

Check out reply 3354 3355.

May be UK can join the race.  USA and China may like another competitor.

*** And if you will indulge me, I would just like to add 1 dis-advantages of developing the Flying Saucer.

1. They will never work  using any of your ideas (unbalanced or not)
***
I am sure that some flying saucers made in China or/and made in USA are flying.  Are they using differences in  CF forces???  Truth will come out.  If UK and other Nations join the race, I doubt that China or USA can keep the top secret for long...

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3355 on: June 13, 2015, 01:44:38 PM »
Why do I have a feeling that someone has forgotten to put the tin foil hat on?
Lawrence, you should put that hat on right away.



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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3356 on: June 13, 2015, 03:32:16 PM »
Forces due to circular motion.

It looks like some forum members are not too familiar with forces due to circular motion.  Hope the attached diagram helps.

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3357 on: June 14, 2015, 12:44:26 AM »
Difference between in kindergarten and graduated from kindergarten.

In kindergarten, one listens to everything.  One treats every piece of information as valuable.

After graduation, one selects.

I know that there are flying saucers made in USA and made in China.  The stories of UFOs are not all hoaxes.

I know that the 225 HP Pulse Power motor funded by Andrew Wong of Hong Kong existed.  I know that the Tsinghua University QMOGEN was operational since 1996.  I can explain their operations.

I can design a flying saucer using the King David Sling technology.

All the useless and irrelevant comments and posts will not be "absorbed" or considered.

When will USA or China disclose their top secret?
  When will another Nation do the research and demonstrate the lead-out energy flying saucer?  The new paradigm is inevitable.  It was similar to the Internet 40 years ago.  The visionaries could see and created the light.  After 40 years, almost all can see the light.

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3358 on: June 14, 2015, 09:19:31 AM »
now if only we could get schematics for that technology my friend

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3359 on: June 14, 2015, 07:40:42 PM »
Forces due to circular motion.

It looks like some forum members are not too familiar with forces due to circular motion.  Hope the attached diagram helps.
Most of us knows perfectly well how this work, but I don't think you understand this very well.
Study forces as much as you want, but it is energy we need. Force do not produce anything.
The reacive forces you find in a spinning disc cannot do work. Google reacive power, or reactive force.


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