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Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !  (Read 2223296 times)

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3330 on: June 06, 2015, 03:14:09 AM »
Quote from: markdansie on June 06, 2015, 01:41:12 AM
Hi Lawrence
I hope you are well.
I travel to HK every month and China at least twice a year.
Do you have any technology or know of any that can demonstrate even one watt of free or excess energy?
I am happy to meet up with anyone or you to see such a demonstration even under an NDA


I remember once talking to you on Skype from the USA where you wanted me to see a technology you claimed was overunity, unfortunately it was not. I was under NDA which I respect so I can not discuss why.
Mark

I have given up developing prototypes myself.

Others in Hong Kong may want to show their prototypes.  Some already have financial resources.  Some may want to meet serious investors.   I shall encourage them to contact you directly via this forum.

You are welcome to develop the lead-out energy flying saucer.  You may have a team of experts with the necessary knowhow.  There will be no patents from me and there will be no royalties to pay.  Please donate 10% of profits to a charity of your choice when you succeed.

Share the benefits with the World.
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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3331 on: June 06, 2015, 08:17:20 PM »
Quote from: ltseung888 on June 05, 2015, 07:58:41 AM
Eighth Design of the Flying Saucer Engine.

Use Magnetic Repulsion.

Is it within the capability of the top Chinese or USA Engineers???
 
The two presentation files have been updated and attached.
 
Lawrence
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Had a detailed discussion of the eighth design of the Flying Saucer in reply 3355.  Some comments:
1. The most difficult engineering is the capsule containing the permanent magnet.  The capsule needs to travel around the donut at high velocity.  One engineering company in China is looking into this.
2. The exact timing of when to turn the DC ON and OFF appears to be a solvable problem.  Magnetic repulsion is recommended.
3. The remaining control problems appear to be manageable.

Will China stop such research within China as it may be regarded as top secret?  Would the effort and resources devoted be wasted?

May do a good youtube video first.
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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3332 on: June 07, 2015, 01:19:03 AM »
Can a Nation such as India build the lead-out energy flying saucer now?

There is enough theoretical design knowledge posted.  An Indian Company with a power plant listened to my presentation months ago. They helped to fund some Milkovic 2SO development in India.  They have good connection with the India Government. 

Will the Jewish Group who has been following my work for years do it?  They have direct contact with the Israel Government.  They were one of the groups who told me that their QMOGEN prototype in Hong Kong was successful.

My gut feel is that some Nations other than USA and China also developed some form of flying saucer technology.  Some may be putting resources into it now.  The new paradigm of lead-out energy flying saucer is inevitable. May the Nations put them into uses that will benefit the World.  Amen.

Lawrence Tseung
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3333 on: June 07, 2015, 01:35:34 AM »
Quote from: ltseung888 on May 27, 2015, 05:02:47 PM
sixth design or variation of the Flying Saucer engine.

Some engineers worried about the complexity of a fast moving magnet inside a donut or circular track.  Some also mentioned that air core is much less efficient compared with ferrite core as far as electromagnet is concerned.

Here is a possible variation.  It is unlikely to be the last...

I am sure that the USA and Chinese "Top Secret" establishments already have better designs.
Look at the sixth design on reply 3330.  Compare it with the 225 HP Pulse Motor.  If our Tong Wheel used the accurate position sensing ON/OFF pulsing technology, we might have had much better results - not just a few watts and doubtful overunity.  We used magnetic repulsion but we used air coils which were much, much less efficient than soft iron core coils. A sad case of a poor and unskilled scientist wasted his time and limited resources.  The lesson - stick to theory.

The 225 HP Pulse Motor Collector Coils collected more energy than the energy supplied by the Drive Coils.  Some of the energy is the lead-out electron motion or electron cloud energy already present.  The electromagnetic flux spread everywhere and the 225 HP Pulse Motor is not a CLOSED system.  It could easily self-run after starting.

It is very probable that the eighth design of the flying saucer is indeed a lead-out energy flying saucer.  It can fly anywhere with no supply of chemical fuel.  Top Secret?  Alien Technology?
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3334 on: June 07, 2015, 08:09:13 PM »
Question: “How can you be sure that your eighth design of the Flying Saucer has not been thought out by someone else already?”

Answer: “It is in the simplicity.  The theory cannot be wrong.  The Centrifugal Force increases according to the formula CF=m*w*w*R.  The faster the angular velocity, the stronger will be the Centrifugal Force.  The design ensures that the angular velocity at the top part of the diagram is much higher than that at the bottom part.”

Question: “If it is so simple, why haven’t someone thought of it before?  Even a housewife with no formal training in Physics can understand.”

Answer: “The normal path for an inventor is to look at the patent databases.  My search revealed no prior art.  If there were former art, many people in this forum would have posted the information.”

Question: “Could it be top secret and the Governments prevented it from publishing?”

Answer: “Possible.  But my disclosure may force the Governments to disclose the top secret to benefit the World.”

Question: “Is there any possibility that your theory of the flying saucer may be wrong?”

Answer: “Absolutely not.  Simplicity provides absolute clarity and certainty.”

*** The quality and quantity of meaningful economic activities to be generated by the lead-out energy flying saucer paradigm will exceed anything humans ever experienced.
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3335 on: June 08, 2015, 12:54:17 AM »
2 new patents of Veljko Milkovic!
 
Mechanical hammer with a pendulum and permanent magnets
RS 1420 U1 - MP-2014/0036
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images...i/Patent30.pdf

Oscillating mechanism with a two-arm lever and pendulum bob hanging on the elastic tapes
RS 1421 U1 - MP-2014/0037
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images...i/Patent31.pdf
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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3336 on: June 08, 2015, 10:18:27 PM »
Quote from: Merg on June 08, 2015, 12:54:17 AM
2 new patents of Veljko Milkovic!
 
Mechanical hammer with a pendulum and permanent magnets
RS 1420 U1 - MP-2014/0036
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images...i/Patent30.pdf

Oscillating mechanism with a two-arm lever and pendulum bob hanging on the elastic tapes
RS 1421 U1 - MP-2014/0037
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images...i/Patent31.pdf

I have to admit that the Milkovic 2SO information really helped.  I relooked at it in Sept 2014 in reply 2179.
http://overunity.com/1763/12-times-more-output-than-input-dual-mechanical-oscillation-system/msg417148/#msg417148

In a couple of months, the eighth design of the Flying Saucer appeared.

Development in the "open" with all the cheers and jeers...

Thanks to Milkovic et al.

*** Research work is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.  Which individual, organization or Nation possesses such qualities?

Lawrence Tseung
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3337 on: June 09, 2015, 06:26:56 PM »
If a design is based on an IMAGINARY (centrifugal) force, the result will be equally IMAGINARY.
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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3338 on: June 10, 2015, 12:18:59 AM »
Quote from: memoryman on June 09, 2015, 06:26:56 PM
If a design is based on an IMAGINARY (centrifugal) force, the result will be equally IMAGINARY.

Was Goliath killed by imaginary forces?

When an athlete swirls and throws the chain ball, does the chain ball fly out at high velocity?
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3339 on: June 10, 2015, 07:14:14 AM »
Quote from: ltseung888 on June 10, 2015, 12:18:59 AM
Was Goliath killed by imaginary forces?

When an athlete swirls and throws the chain ball, does the chain ball fly out at high velocity?
LOL, in the legend, King David like your athlete stood on this thing called earth.  Earth being quite a bit more massive than David and his stone, moved imperceptibly as he swung his sling-shot.  But maybe you think that is some sort of state secret.
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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3340 on: June 11, 2015, 01:21:01 AM »
When  a secret is revealed, it is no longer a secret.

When it becomes a piece of information, it is a matter of how an individual, organization or Nation uses such information.

My humble goal is for them to use this information to benefit the entire human race.  Forget about the wars, conquests etc.

Enjoy the Divine Wine.

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3341 on: June 11, 2015, 01:29:27 AM »
Quote from: ltseung888 on June 08, 2015, 10:18:27 PM
I have to admit that the Milkovic 2SO information really helped.  I relooked at it in Sept 2014 in reply 2179.
http://overunity.com/1763/12-times-more-output-than-input-dual-mechanical-oscillation-system/msg417148/#msg417148

In a couple of months, the eighth design of the Flying Saucer appeared.

Development in the "open" with all the cheers and jeers...

Thanks to Milkovic et al.

*** Research work is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.  Which individual, organization or Nation possesses such qualities?

Lawrence Tseung
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One remaining technical question is -

The Drive Coil needs energy.  The Collector Coil receives energy.  What is the best arrangement to exchange such energy?

Can the Collector Coil receive more energy - from the leading out of electron motion or electron cloud energy???

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3342 on: June 11, 2015, 01:31:54 AM »
"Was Goliath killed by imaginary forces?
When an athlete swirls and throws the chain ball, does the chain ball fly out at high velocity?"
No he was allegedly killed by a stone that was propelled by CENTRIPETAL force, a REAL force.
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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3343 on: June 11, 2015, 03:27:07 AM »
Quote from: memoryman on June 11, 2015, 01:31:54 AM
"Was Goliath killed by imaginary forces?
When an athlete swirls and throws the chain ball, does the chain ball fly out at high velocity?"
No he was allegedly killed by a stone that was propelled by CENTRIPETAL force, a REAL force.

Sure.  You can argue on the use of the various words.  Some Christians call it the "King David Sling" force.  Use whatever term that makes you happy.
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memoryman

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3344 on: June 11, 2015, 03:34:29 AM »
This is not an exercise in semantics; centrifugal and centripetal forces are at 90 degrees to each other; centrifugal is imaginary; centripetal is real.
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