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supersam

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #240 on: January 08, 2007, 06:47:03 AM »
DID I MISS SOMETHING OR WAS THE MATH JUST NOT RIGHT?

lol
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #241 on: January 08, 2007, 06:50:36 AM »
and mine just keeps going boing boing boing!!!! best of luck!!!

lol
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #242 on: January 08, 2007, 07:48:25 AM »
Another example of excess energy... Its not much and I'm not tapping any power from the system but it clearly shows there is more kinetic energy in the pendulum driven lever then in the control pendulum.

I got a copy of WM2D today.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2007, 10:17:34 AM by Dingus Mungus »

FreeEnergy

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #243 on: January 08, 2007, 09:29:14 AM »
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #244 on: January 08, 2007, 03:21:26 PM »
I downloaded a version of wm2d from a place a dare not to mention, It seems to be fully functional, but also sufficiently complex. Darn, don't know if to start with a real world model or study the software to build virtual models. Either way will take time and with something so interesting is hard to find patience.

Dingus Mungus

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #245 on: January 16, 2007, 09:19:33 AM »
Compare the energy in the pendulums... Plus I took some kinetic energy and burned it with a damper. Clearly another violation.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #246 on: January 17, 2007, 06:43:50 PM »
          Hi!
     A new year and some fresh news about  the latest developments of Prof  Milkovic at     http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/AktuelnoEng.html 
       All the Bests! / Alex
 

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #247 on: January 18, 2007, 07:13:53 PM »
Hi everyone using Overunity.com

As this is my 1st post I thought I?d just say I know very little about OU, I came here while searching the net for Josef Papp. Found the posting on Mikovic and the buzz discussion, I was inspired.

I got to work with Wm2D and think that a good way to prove unity (+)? is use a flywheel to swing the pendulum?.

I?m using a 15Kg pendulum, 16Kg lever, 18,78Kg weight, 9Kg flywheel.

Could we not at least prove unity this way?

I?ve not managed to get more that 12 rotations of the flywheel but it seems that fine tuning the green weight on the lever can induce radical swing effects in the pendulum, causing it to speed up and then go out of sync for a few rotations then back in sync.

How hard would it be to get the flywheel rotations correct (resonant?) to induce a steady swing effect on the pendulum?

Should I just give up now?

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #248 on: January 18, 2007, 09:11:13 PM »
Hi everyone using Overunity.com

As this is my 1st post I thought I?d just say I know very little about OU, I came here while searching the net for Josef Papp. Found the posting on Mikovic and the buzz discussion, I was inspired.

I got to work with Wm2D and think that a good way to prove unity (+)? is use a flywheel to swing the pendulum?.

I?m using a 15Kg pendulum, 16Kg lever, 18,78Kg weight, 9Kg flywheel.

Could we not at least prove unity this way?

I?ve not managed to get more that 12 rotations of the flywheel but it seems that fine tuning the green weight on the lever can induce radical swing effects in the pendulum, causing it to speed up and then go out of sync for a few rotations then back in sync.

How hard would it be to get the flywheel rotations correct (resonant?) to induce a steady swing effect on the pendulum?

Should I just give up now?

could you try and make it a one-way flywheel? i think that might make it better.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #249 on: January 19, 2007, 10:38:11 AM »

could you try and make it a one-way flywheel? i think that might make it better.

OK but how would you measure the force needed to move the pendulum to start position and then measure the total force the flywheel takes from one release.

I know I can't get it going perpetually,

But, I'm not sure how to workout the correct start position so the most force from the initial pendulum release is absorbed by the flywheel. Is it quite difficult?

« Last Edit: January 19, 2007, 11:08:38 AM by mindsweeper »

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #250 on: January 19, 2007, 10:54:56 PM »
(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1763.0;attach=4933;image)

I still don't know how I did it...

Unidirectional force on the flywheel for 4 minutes...

FreeEnergy

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #251 on: January 20, 2007, 02:03:17 AM »
i am new to wm2d so i wouldn't know sorry

FreeEnergy

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #252 on: January 20, 2007, 04:32:37 AM »
hehe look at this one.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #253 on: January 21, 2007, 06:18:04 AM »
 :o

It checks out alright...
Very low input energy though, so it may be a glitch in the software...
We'll Have to blow it up to a larger scale to truely observe its energy flow.

I'm busy now, but this week I plan on dedicating a few hours to re-engineering
your design. Thanks for this awesome example of a vast first law violation!!!

~Dingus

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #254 on: January 22, 2007, 09:47:52 AM »
hmmmm

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