Can somebody please explain to me how anyone with even a brain for physics can think that the "flashlight" expermiment proves power output? 

Yes. What is needed is an Avometer.
Paul.

I'm curious why noone has tried the following simple setup already...

(http://broli.dommel.be/2stagebd.PNG)

Maybe it's not the best setup for an electrical setup but the point is having a pulsing input and continuous ouput and measuring the differential.

@greendoor

It's just like a swinging pendulum.  Potential energy is converted into kinetic energy, and then converted back into potential energy - it does this a few times until friction has consumed it all.  Net result: 0.
We are fooled into thinking that this is overunity - but it is simply a series of energy conversions, each a little lossy.

A bunch of genius types at MIT once said they would need 1000X more computing power to solve the inertial moments of a simple fluid filled pendulum and even then they conceeded that the accuracy would be too low to matter. Now put a pendulum on a lever weighted AND loaded on the other end---- the inertial,velocity,time variables are near infinite and yet you presume to understand what the boys at MIT admitted could never be calculated. When I built this machine I understood no simulator would solve this and that it could take years to get all the variables correct to produce the desired effects so I moved on to easier projects. Can you imagine an engineer of 20 years having operated 10,000HP turbines in a 160MW power plant intimidated by a simple pendulum as you say.
Go back to school you have no idea what your talking about

Just because we don't know exactly when it will stop swinging, doesn't mean we cannot predict that it will eventually.  I am sure the MIT guys could not predict which number on the roulette wheel a ball will stop on - doesn't mean it will keep hopping forever.

"Yeah it might circle earth and go to the moon a few times but at the end it'll end up 1cm from its starting position." Kind of the same sense you're using. Predictions are useless in some cases you know.

@greendoorA bunch of genius types at MIT once said they would need 1000X more computing power to solve the inertial moments of a simple fluid filled pendulum and even then they conceeded that the accuracy would be too low to matter. Now put a pendulum on a lever weighted AND loaded on the other end---- the inertial,velocity,time variables are near infinite and yet you presume to understand what the boys at MIT admitted could never be calculated. When I built this machine I understood no simulator would solve this and that it could take years to get all the variables correct to produce the desired effects so I moved on to easier projects. Can you imagine an engineer of 20 years having operated 10,000HP turbines in a 160MW power plant intimidated by a simple pendulum as you say.
Go back to school you have no idea what your talking about

You are right - I haven't got a clue what i'm talking about.  I must be a frikken moron.  But at least I didn't confuse a relatively simple pendulum & lever system with a hydrodynamic fluid-flow analysis.  That would be really ignorant ... 

Fluid flow has much greater potential for free-energy - especially if vortex flow is created.  You would basically have to account for the movements of every single molecule.  For example - does fluid flow impart some order out of chaos, and perhaps negative entropy?  Could the random brownian movement of particles be given a bias in one direction?  That would not add any new Energy into the system - but could it allow for some unexpected velocity increases? ... and from a local reference frame might this be percieved as power increase - like a tornado-in-a-can?  If we used some of this power, would the temperature of the fluid drop ... and would energy flow into this system? ... the questions go on and on ...

But you are right - I have no idea what i'm talking about.  Go right on looking for power out of a simple pendulum & lever ... you might get lucky.

Here are my new videos,
These are just test models, if I feel like we might get something out of this I will be making a large better built model
I reallly want to keep this as simple as I can and when I run this through a computer simulator it doesn't stop??? AND YES the friction is on...lol ..give it a try



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1juFXh_1hQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0GNAgbkp-Y

Where is documented? Do you have a link?

Also, they have walked away from what? From using an electromagnet to keep the pendulum working or from the entire Milcovitz device?



Here are the references Edelind:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Milkovic-Berrett_Secondary_Oscillator_Generator

http://pesn.com/2007/03/18/9500462_Berrett_pendulums/

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Milkovic_Two-Stage_Mechanical_Oscillator

Ron Pugh?s pendulum set-up is on the Milkovic site somewhere

Brian Berrett has publicly stated he would not do any further work on the device, Ron Pugh after some initial effort was never heard of again.

My own work on the device can be followed by the links in the Milkovic article in Peswiki as well as through a number of postings in this thread, if you want to go back far enough.

Hope that helps.

Hans von Lieven


Hello Hans,
I am trying to find your info but can't?? Can you cut and paste it for me??? I have gone back all the way in this link and could not find anyone doing a set up like mine???(with the crank)?? it is a very easy set up and I am having trouble building the crank but I trying??!!

Have you were you trying to get the energy from the lever??
I know about the ones from the sight and I don't know if you noticed those are just pendulums someone on here (I RON) is building a nice set up for the pendulum.
After I have gotten going on the crank a little better today I was thinking about putting a small and the bottom of the cranks and see what happens ?? I am going to try a bunch of stuff so any input you can give would be great!!
Thanks
Jeff

 Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
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@bradpitt

G'day Jeff,

I cannot recall at the moment what your setup looks like, can you give me a link?

Berret mounted his magnet on



Hans
Here is were I got today...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0HYl5mNaorY