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Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !  (Read 1739537 times)

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3930 on: October 08, 2021, 11:03:27 AM »
Large world-famous and recognized companies from India, China and America, folloewd by numerous companies from other countries that have their offices around the world, produce machines, crushers and devices based on a two-stage mechanical oscillator. These are companies operating in Russia, Kazakhstan, South Africa, Indonesia… The mentioned companies are leaders in the production of machines for crushing ores and stones, and his invention is widely used within the new technology project, where foreign companies recognized the importance of Milkovic's invention.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3931 on: October 08, 2021, 06:23:19 PM »
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When added/subtracted the resultant force determines
   which one moves and which one ‘braces’
Do both pendulums have to have exactly the same moment of inertia?
This is not easy to do ...

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3932 on: October 09, 2021, 04:36:08 PM »
                    Thanks for the snap shots.
smoky2's comments are spot on.

If the middle pendulum is held stationary, the outer pendulum shaft,
rotates within 4 bearings.

If the outer pendulum is held stationary, the inner pendulum rotates
within two bearings,

If all four bearings are friction equal.
This is still a 2 to 1 friction difference.
... ... ... ...
Do both pendulums have to have exactly the same moment of inertia?
This is not easy to do ...

But isn't that the goal, of the two pendulum design any way ?
... ... ... ... ...
 Not easy, and can never be perfect.

"Close enough" and one pendulum will start before the other, But also
at the point of one's having achieved a fine balancing of the moments of inertia,
minor friction difference will become the next factor.
... ... ... ...
Get the moments of inertia closely matched, then gear the two pendulums
together ?

               or
https://overunity.com/1763/12-times-more-output-than-input-dual-mechanical-oscillation-system/msg560162/#msg560162

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3932 on: October 09, 2021, 04:36:08 PM »
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3933 on: October 09, 2021, 06:06:36 PM »
If the moments of inertia of the suspension and the load can still be calculated.
however the moments of inertia of the stator and rotor with their complex shape are not at all easy to do. Only experimentally select?
But I noticed that if i give short current pulses just from a pulse generator, with a frequency approximately corresponding to the period of oscillations, they swing perfectly together.
What, in fact, is shown in that video. And the system is not even critical to the moment of inertia of the pendulum.But shocks of force can be anywhere in their trajectory. And I wanted it to be at the bottom.
As soon as you install the hall sensor, miracles begin ... :)

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3934 on: October 09, 2021, 10:39:55 PM »
The video shows both pendulums swinging in sync.
Your comments said they one starts before the other.

Do they start off unequally, but then later they fall  into synchronization ?

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3934 on: October 09, 2021, 10:39:55 PM »
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3935 on: October 10, 2021, 03:51:20 PM »
Exactly so. For ease of understanding, a single impulse is enough only and both pendulums diverge at the same distance. Why don't they do the same with the hall sensor and tracking electronics?

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3936 on: October 11, 2021, 07:43:52 AM »
Exactly so. For ease of understanding, a single impulse is enough only and both pendulums diverge at the same distance. Why don't they do the same with the hall sensor and tracking electronics?

Unclear statements, and I'm left to guess at what you are referring to.  Not enough
details. 

i.e I post
"The video shows both pendulums swinging in sync.
Your comments said they one starts before the other.
Do they start off unequally, but then later they fall  into synchronization ?"
... ... ... ...
You respond
"Exactly so. For ease of understanding, a single impulse is enough only and both pendulums diverge at the same distance. Why don't they do the same with the hall sensor and tracking electronics?"


    which is it ?
They start off unequally, but then later they fall  into synchronization.
                           or
A single impulse is enough only and both pendulums diverge at the same distance.

Do you see what I'm saying ?

I'm not willing to ask 20 questions just because you are not being specific enogh.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3936 on: October 11, 2021, 07:43:52 AM »
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3937 on: October 11, 2021, 06:19:59 PM »
https://youtu.be/DWXp3ExOgnk
Well, that might make it clearer ...
The middle pendulum tends to oscillate all the time ...

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3938 on: October 12, 2021, 07:33:37 AM »
Very cool ...
         Thanks

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3938 on: October 12, 2021, 07:33:37 AM »
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3939 on: October 15, 2021, 02:53:44 AM »
Lets get one thing straight::


Milkovich did NOT invent this.
He only invented the Manual use of this as a water pump.


The device itself was inherited from the Dutch, 200 yrs ago

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3940 on: October 15, 2021, 11:08:24 AM »
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These companies have recognized the value of Milković's invention as a working mechanism with the lowest possible maintenance costs and maximum efficiency, applied it in the design of a new generation of industrial machines and widely sold it around the world.



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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3940 on: October 15, 2021, 11:08:24 AM »
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3941 on: October 22, 2021, 09:13:15 AM »

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3942 on: October 22, 2021, 09:54:43 AM »
Just thinking about the best way to convert motion to electricity.
I think Milkovich is not the best option. ;)

https://overunity.com/18875/o-u-magnet-force-shielding-1/dlattach/attach/183403/
Maybe a design that generates electricity would be better?
Because the move distance is small there, and so is the speed.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3943 on: October 22, 2021, 03:15:17 PM »
My first imperssiion..

cool.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3944 on: October 22, 2021, 07:49:32 PM »
Well, yes. The thinner the coils are, ideally pancake, and the more be they, the better.
Or am I wrong?

 

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