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Title: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: abbhawk on February 26, 2018, 03:01:27 PM
NASA got diffrent energy devices (patents) that they will allow american to produce, thought maybe someone like this High power solid state patent?

https://technology.nasa.gov/patent/MFS-TOPS-29

It is a part of NASA techmology transfer program
Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: Sergh on February 26, 2018, 10:08:13 PM
This is RF Power Amplifier, and this "News" not too new..

DIY RF PA 1000 W and not only

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZQHlAyLczQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZQHlAyLczQ)

http://www.w6pql.com/1kw_70cm_ldmos_amplifier.htm (http://www.w6pql.com/1kw_70cm_ldmos_amplifier.htm)

It's not NASA, but the power and frequency are almost equal:

http://www.w6pql.com/1kw_222mhz_ldmos_amplifier.htm
 ;D
Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 27, 2018, 09:08:39 AM
The simplicity and robustness of the NASA design is intriguing
It can probably be scaled and tuned to any desire.


The 1kW is multiplied in current
and divided in time


We should be able to do the same with 10W, or 1W


1/4R



(ok, ok,... 1/R+1/R+1/R+1/R)
it gets annoying after 30 or 40 or so....



Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: abbhawk on February 27, 2018, 01:48:52 PM
Sergh, i didnt post this because it was supposed to be new knowledge, but because NASA got the patent since 2007 and had no intentions of using patent. Now (this is the new part) Trump have ordered NASA to release 1000 patents for use by american companies so they can create jobs.

I mention in here for two main reasons.

1) i think some of you like to know what patents is made, and if NASA got patents on high power over unity systems, then it must be proven by authorities that overunity is a reality. Then it IS a question of choosing a way to make free energy and fact is, that NASA have proven that they hold back overunity/free energy devices from the public. But none dare to ask why NASA didnt tell the truth past 10 years and only do it when ordered!

2) It is new that NASA seek partners that will buy license to produce overunity device, and i thought maybe someone in here is american and like to become producer of these devices.

We that use a board like overunity can avoid alot of fraud/scam insinuations against what we do when it is proven by NASA patents that we tell truth as good as we can.

You might not see it as a big deal, but try take a look on all 1000 (not all released yet) patents that NASA will realease, how many of these contain info that is new knowledge to majority, like efficient ways to energy. Do you think NASA release all their best patents, or do they release those they do not need anymore? So the 5000 patents they dont want us to know about, what kind of info do they contain?

Just one little weird thing - i thought none could get patents on free energy - not really sure what the claim is in this patent.
Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: Sergh on February 28, 2018, 07:25:35 AM
A conventional amplifier does not increase energy, but converts, for example, DC energy into energy of high-frequency oscillations depending on the signal at the input. The same "amplifier" can be called a hydraulic drive or audio sound amplifier.

NASA ... as I understand it, NASA is going through hard times now.
And the patents are of little use, they have not written the truth in patents for a long time.
If NASA had free energy, then they would not have such problems with a lack of electrical energy, like here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_13_(film)

It is interesting to learn from NASA what happened with Podkletnov's experiments on shielding gravity by superconductors.
Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: abbhawk on March 02, 2018, 09:48:37 AM
Sergh, now you just argue for the argue...it look like your comments are comming from the thin air.

NASA never said this was efficient or the most efficient they have. NASA expected this patent to be unknown till it runs out. They just say that is IS overunity, like they have other inventions that IS overunity. This is what they say:

The power levels of current solid state power amplifiers are quite low (15KW) compared to the power levels of current vacuum tube amplifiers (10s of MW). However, the enormous size and weight of the vacuum tube amplifiers can be problematic.

Here they say that their vacuum tubes amplifiers are better, than this invention, and vacuum tubes were found in 1950ties

And you try to argue that it is not possible because a 30yo fiction movie called Apollo 13 from Hollywood do not fit into your painting of NASA.

I do not claim that NASA will tell you the truth, but i show you the patent info, so patents are fake too?

NASA did not claim to make free efficient new energy method, but that do not make it a lie. They just say they make energy without fossil fuels, they did not call it efficient.

Did you even read the link i provide???

Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: Sergh on March 02, 2018, 10:04:23 AM
"The NASA device offers a higher power solid state power amp device that might replace the vacuum tube amps for some applications (https://technology.nasa.gov/patent/MFS-TOPS-29)"
- the simple RF amplifier, nothing else on this link  >:(

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They just say they make energy without fossil fuels,
- cannot see this on this link.
Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: abbhawk on March 02, 2018, 10:54:46 AM
Because you are a blind chicken...read between the lines

The NASA device is a first step toward increasing the power of solid state power amp devices so that they might replace the more cumbersome vacuum tube amps for some applications....

If you do not have knowledge about this then maybe you should avoid the argue, vacuum tubes are making energy without fossil fuels...

Are you claiming that NASA have 6000 patents that are all fake because they are liars who want to deceive you???

I am just telling you NASA got patents on overunity - i am not here to proof patents for you. The patent should be your proof of concept.







Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: Sergh on March 02, 2018, 06:07:29 PM
Because you are a blind chicken...read between the lines

The NASA device is a first step toward increasing the power of solid state power amp devices so that they might replace the more cumbersome vacuum tube amps for some applications....
Yes! On this link is an ordinary RF amplifier. The amplifier on the vacuum tubes has an efficiency of 0.2 - 0.5. Vacuum tubes consume most of the energy to heat the air. The RF amplifier on semiconductors at this frequency has an more efficiency of 0.5 up to 0.7, and less weight. Nothing else.

If you do not have knowledge about this then maybe you should avoid the argue, vacuum tubes are making energy without fossil fuels...

What? There is nothing like this under this link. And this is nowhere in real world.
Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: abbhawk on March 03, 2018, 01:26:01 PM
It is nice to know that NASA and the patent office always can ask you for advice when there is something they dont understand. Why dont you tell them how their vacuum tubes work, they have been lost for the past 70years and need a smart guy like you to explain.

Why dont you tell USA army that the video work they made to explain how a vacuum tube work is pure fake, and those devices that used vacuum tubes didnt work - so everyone should think like you and that none ever had a tv or a radio.

I gave you a chance to look it up, but you avoid the best you can to learn. I dont really care if you understand it or not, i realize that some people are just not smart enough to seek information themselves. I told you to look up vacuum tubes but you think you are smarter than USA Army, smarter than NASA and smarter than the specialists at patent office.

I dont even want to help you find your info - where do you find crap like you do, telling that how efficient vacuum tubes are, efficiency of vacuum tubes depends how you use them and how you add energy - it is a amplifier keeping same volt and increasing ampere.

Stop telling me what you dont understand - go to patent office - it is them who say NASA made a high power amplifier, not me.
Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: Sergh on March 03, 2018, 01:40:59 PM
I have many vacuum tubes, rare, military, etc. These are not batteries, they do not generate energy.
I was hoping that you would say something useful on the topic.
Nothing.  It's a pity.
Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: sm0ky2 on March 03, 2018, 07:01:32 PM
The term “high power” refers to the total voltage and current
able to be processed by the amplifier over time.


This device processes considerably more power than
a conventional amplifier with similar components.
Let’s say 4 mosfets


The parallel paths lower the resistance similar to a bridged mosfet
The mosfet  can only handle a certain max power before overheating
which causes it to fail


The NASA device takes the input power and disperses it over the time domain.
By increasing, then restricting the voltage and current.
You have the same total power over time, it is just dispersed differently.
The duty cycle is altered by the amplifier.


There is no gain in total power over time, we just trade some of our time
for more instantaneous power.
The same amplification, through a bridged mosfet would require more
amplifiers to be used, which increases power consumption.
This makes the NASA device more efficient, smaller, less heat, etc.

There are no ‘magical’ claims made with regards to this device.

Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: kolbacict on March 03, 2018, 08:14:27 PM
I have many vacuum tubes, rare, military, etc. These are not batteries, they do not generate energy.
I was hoping that you would say something useful on the topic.
Nothing.  It's a pity.
Are you on a green matrix? :)
Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: Sergh on March 04, 2018, 02:19:00 PM
yes, from the matrix  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3P4a2MBssc)
Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: abbhawk on March 04, 2018, 03:10:30 PM
Sergh you fight the mail man for bringing you news you dont like...

I already show link within past two weeks to a video made by USA army science people around 1955 where they explain how to get more ampere out keeping same volt in in input and output. At least that is how i explain it...i see no reason for keep defending that i believe NASA, when they on homepage seek partners to a power generating device. But i think it is clear that they are not efficient to use as a free energy generator - as you might think. It is a power generating device to work on to make it efficient.

You sound like you didnt look and read the info from NASA. Like that their machine weights up to 5lbs per 1watt, so if you like to feed your house with energy you have to buy a machine at size like a Hummer - but would you pay maybe 200000dollar for a machine that produce worth 5-10c per hour or maybe 1000dollar a year.

I did never call it efficient, but i say that NASA claim it is producing energy and that patent office gave NASA patent on what NASA see as a overunity device.

If you want a fight then go to those who have the claims you dont like, dont go to the mailman. I just bring board (new?) knowledge, you will never be right by telling mailman not to bring news you dont like. You dont have to react to news you dont like, it was written to people who appreciate new info. Info you dont like is just not made for you, but i challenge you - make patent office call back patent and i will say sorry for bring you news you dont like.
Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: sm0ky2 on March 04, 2018, 04:05:34 PM
NASA does not view this device as “OU”.


They view it as more efficient than a conventional amplifier.


Nothing more.


Energy must be supplied to the system, and this energy is less than what comes out.
The increase in power is offset by the decrease in time this power is provided.

Title: Re: High Power solid state from NASA
Post by: Sergh on March 04, 2018, 04:40:46 PM
I already show link within past two weeks to a video made by USA army science people around 1955 where they explain how to get more ampere out keeping same volt in in input and output.

What this then, in the table at the end of the article?:

Name and/or model:     MSL/Curiosity rover MMRTG (1)             
Launched:                    2011
Fate/location:               Mars surface

Nuclear power systems in space (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator)

Why did NASA even use a dirty  radioisotope thermoelectric generator for the Curiosity rover?
This thermoelectric generator can generate only ... 125 watts.
2 small incandescent lamps only:

Multi-mission radioisotope thermoelectric generator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-mission_radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator)

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With a mass of 45 kg  the MMRTG provides about 2.8 W/kg of electrical power at beginning of life.

A video of the liquidation of a radioisotope thermoelectric generator,  dismantled by vandal in Georgia (Caucasus).
This video shows how it can be dangerous. The electric power of that old ex-USSR generator is only 10 watts (from Internet).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YBXJSgbtS0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YBXJSgbtS0)

He used as power source to radio communications  relay in the mountains.

http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/radiothermal-generators-containing-strontium-90-discovered-liya-georgia/ (http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/radiothermal-generators-containing-strontium-90-discovered-liya-georgia/)