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tosky

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #75 on: December 01, 2006, 05:17:48 AM »
Hello guys,
There is nothing strange in the video from Turbo. I could do that since I was a kid. Try to calculate the work done in the show. A 40W light bulb worked for 10 seconds is 400 joules. A 9V battery 170mA work done at least 1 hour could provide:
9 * 0.17 * 3600 = 5508 joules. Therefore any simple step up converter can be used to show that magic.
I heard a new movie about Tesla helped a magician to do magic, there are too many magic. The unit (Joule) is a good drug to cure mental disease.

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #76 on: December 01, 2006, 05:20:21 AM »
@tosky

Ok.  Please duplicate Turbo's design or similar and post a video here so we can all take a good look at it.

Thanks!

~Dan


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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #77 on: December 01, 2006, 05:29:53 AM »
Tosky

   You are correct, a battery may have the required joules to do the job. The problem is when you try to upconvert, the amperage drain is very high and this requirement is in opposition to the internal resistance of the (small) battery. Hence the battery becomes the load ,quickly overheating, outgassing if not exploding. I can supply all my calculations and test data to show this as I was also once skeptical.

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #78 on: December 01, 2006, 05:30:21 AM »
Here are the files that Mr.X has deleted:

4 videos, 1 picture, 1 pdf-file

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6VC0S5DW

Greetz, Pontifex

Wow,
it seems somebody has replicated the TPU !
Is this Dave Mason of CTGLABS.COM in the video ???

Or is he called David Clarke ?

Or is Clarke his second "first" name ?

So is he called David Clarke Mason ?

Hi Dave, if you read this,
please don?t hide and let us know.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #79 on: December 01, 2006, 05:39:55 AM »
Hi All,
the new File:

TPU.rar

is now available at:

www.overunity.com/stevenmark/TPU.rar

About 20 Mbytes big.

You need WinRAR to unpack it.

Many thanks for making this available.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #80 on: December 01, 2006, 05:55:17 AM »
@ All and Stefan,

I think, from the video available from SM to Turbo and the latest from "Dave" showed that the TPU is and can be built, working and duplicate.

I think we need to pull our effort together in order to make the TPU (at least the basic) duplicate-able.

And please, stop the scrutinise the TPU with all the JARGON which I think has make the learning more harder/obstacle than it supposed to be.

Make the learning more fun and fruitable. Let the simple be simple and let-off the "academician/scientist", at least after we can built the basic.

Regards

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #81 on: December 01, 2006, 06:34:51 AM »
Very weird, is turbo -> x? is that right, and why post all these things then shortly after go and edit them out?  Very strange behavior.  Here's hoping they will give us some more information in the coming days.

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2006, 07:01:43 AM »
I can confirm from other postings with the same IP address,
that user TURBO is
the former user Marco from the Netherlands
and that user
X
is Dave Mason from CTGLABS.COM

So I wonder, why they try to play cat and mouse games with
us over here ?

Please Marco and Dave speak up, what you have and
don?t hide behind anonymous usernames...

This topics is too important to be played games with...

If you have a working TPU replication, please let us know
and post more infos or at least post what you try to do with it now...

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2006, 07:12:39 AM »
I hate to get into this conversation being as uneducated as I am on this topic. I just thought I would ask if someone can explain the whole principle in laymens terms? Or if you could provide some links to where I could study up? Thanks,

Tim

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #84 on: December 01, 2006, 07:39:30 AM »
Turbos device is very interesting and simple.

Reminds me that the other day I was just fooling around with a 12 volts DC 4A battery and some transformers. I was trying to see if using regular off the shelf transformers would have any effects when hitting the battery terminals, sort of like the kick you guys talk about. I put my voltmeter on the output of the transformers and set it at 1000 vdc.

After trying about 5 different types with no results, I tried a standard 115 VAC to 12V - 0 - 12V 2A transformer Amstad brand model AM-TR-24T-2. Using the two wires on the input side, I put one end on the positive battery terminal and took the other wire and started to tap on the battery negative terminal while looking at my voltmeter. I found that by tapping on the battery terminal about 4 to 7 times per second, I was getting voltage readings from 600 to over 1000 volts dc. I did not get anything that high by using the other transformers. Plus I could feel the transformer was jolting each time I hit the negative battery terminal.

Also, my TV is about 6 feet away and every time I tapped the transformer wire on the battery negative terminal, the TV screen would show static. Never saw this before.

I am wondering if a circuit was made to connect and disconnect using a transistor(s) or triac(s) with an adjustable tapping rate, this voltage may be harnessed somehow.

I'm not an electronics guy so this is above me. I'm more into the mechanical and logic end. But maybe all we are seeing in the TPU is a way to generate a small DC voltage with the magnet over a coil, then tapping a larger coil on the negative terminal of that voltage. Also by tapping 4 coils in succession, this would maybe smoothen out the output voltage.

What you call a rotating field may simply be a way to tap one coil, then tap the second before the first coil deenergizes, then the third coil before the second deenergizes, then the fourth coil before the third deenergizes, etc.

If I remember correctly SM mentioned while having his smaller coil in  his hands, that it was vibrating at 7.5 hertz.

I made a crude diagram to show what I was doing. I know this is actually very rudimentary but I thought I should mention it in case there was something there.

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #85 on: December 01, 2006, 07:49:49 AM »
Hi Dansway, Vortex1,
I believe the TPU device is true but not the one from Turbo. He may be on the way towards a close loop TPU but not yet. About the step up converter, when you choose the best MOS-FET (very low on/off voltage) and a good driver circuit and matching primary coil. It could be minimize the lost to be very high efficiency enough for 10 second show. But if you use the bipolar transistor you at least lost (0.6V * I) due to the drop of the diode. Driving the MOS-FET needs a higher voltage for the threshold of the Gate. So for simplicity a 9V cell is more suitable than a 6V lithium cell to do the magic show. Because all we know the 9V cell is weak cell. He may be so kind to encourage us to really try it out and speed up the research. He knows what we will ask. He should simply (disconnect the 9V cell or tell how long the cell will last) instead of so many rows of sentence. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #86 on: December 01, 2006, 07:56:12 AM »
Hi wattsup,

I believe that your idea is right on par with what Mr. Mark has been telling us all along. It's the inrush current that is the secret to the kick. Remember the reference Mr. Mark made to the valve amplifiers book? That initial current/voltage spike when you first connect the circuit is what I believe the kick is. So if you make enough of them at the right frequency (so that the waves add in the space of the toroid), then you can multiply the power exponentially without an appreciable input from the transistor. Then it's simply a matter of making a circuit which can safely feed some power back in (or a 9V battery) to maintain the oscillations to excite the kicks in the coil.

At this point, my thought is that Mr. Mark inputs two frequencies, which produce the third (beat?) frequency in the coil. It is this third frequency that travels around the ring at 7.8 (or 5000) or whatever Hz to produce the power. Again just my speculations.

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #87 on: December 01, 2006, 08:14:43 AM »
tosky

You are correct, it is possible to produce a quick light of lamp with a small battery. It is not possible for 3 to 5 minutes. I wish the demonstrators would  be so kind as to provide voltage / current monitor of their source battery if one is used. As for lamps, clear glass visible filaments preferred with scope on output.

 I believe these gentlemen may have something good, why muddy the water with magic shows. Use a lamp base so the bulb doesn't burn your fingers, then you can leave it on longer for a real impressive demo. Just a suggestion. Congratulations to them anyway.

..............V


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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #88 on: December 01, 2006, 08:27:47 AM »
Turbos device is very interesting and simple.

Reminds me that the other day I was just fooling around with a 12 volts DC 4A battery and some transformers. I was trying to see if using regular off the shelf transformers would have any effects when hitting the battery terminals, sort of like the kick you guys talk about. I put my voltmeter on the output of the transformers and set it at 1000 vdc.

After trying about 5 different types with no results, I tried a standard 115 VAC to 12V - 0 - 12V 2A transformer Amstad brand model AM-TR-24T-2. Using the two wires on the input side, I put one end on the positive battery terminal and took the other wire and started to tap on the battery negative terminal while looking at my voltmeter. I found that by tapping on the battery terminal about 4 to 7 times per second, I was getting voltage readings from 600 to over 1000 volts dc.

I just tried that.. tapping it with 6v and multimeter showed 300-600 when set on 500v. Yet, that is not the actual voltage that it's making. If it were 300-600v it would power up something when your tapping the wire. Hooked to "neddle" type meter, it will barely jump the needle set to any voltage. Set your multimeter to a lower dc and see what it reads.  But, yeah, theres probably some pulsing going on with the real tpu.

 No turbo coil schematic yet?
 Is that the one that's in the pdf in the tpu.rar file from X?

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU
« Reply #89 on: December 01, 2006, 08:47:16 AM »
Hi guys,
Remember do not use any Voltage meter to determine the pulse voltage, The reading not true, use oscilloscope please.