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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?
« Reply #1365 on: January 20, 2007, 03:51:18 PM »
@Grumpy,

Thanks for the link, very interesting. I see many parallels here. humm....

Gotta try something.

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?
« Reply #1366 on: January 20, 2007, 03:52:32 PM »
This link dont work:http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1761.0;attach=5236

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?
« Reply #1368 on: January 20, 2007, 04:05:49 PM »
Read this book and then start over.

http://satanicsingles.com/library/The_Free_Energy_Secrets_of_Cold_Electricity.pdf

(don't let that website scare you)

Thank you so much for Shortcut Grumpy

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?
« Reply #1369 on: January 21, 2007, 11:17:57 PM »

http://www.icehouse.net/john34/bedinibearden.html

The other kids liked it; that's how it was voted 'best of show'. Adult judges gave her the other top prizes.

She flicks the wheel, into motion and it runs.

"This is the electromagnet coil (TPU kicks?). It has the power wire and the trigger wire... The power wire carries the voltage around the electromagnet coil and it goes through to the transistor?that little black thing?then it goes through the resistor and the diode and the trigger wire follows it and then the voltage flow comes out again and returns back to the negative side of the battery... The electromagnet generates the power, then it spins the wheel; the electricity goes through the generator coil which lights up the light-emitting diode. Then it starts all over again."

"We've been using this battery for a month or so now. It's supposed to have only 900 spins per nine volts, and that's a nine-volt battery, so if it were to run out then it would have run out a long time ago!"

She has only changed the battery three times since building it six months ago.



Thanks for bringing up Bearden and Bedini. Does any of you have any comments about the recent book from Bedini and Bearden titled "Free Energy Generation Circuits & Schematics"

On a WEB site I came accross to a simple circuit and an explanation of incredible nature for it. I will attach the circuit and copy the explanation below.

My question is : Do you think the circuit attached can work? Or is it a hoax like some skeptics say.


Explanation : Here is one of John and Tom's patented inventions:
 
This is a circuit for capturing zero-point energy.  There are no moving parts and only one simple coil needs to be wound since all of the other parts are readily available electronics components.  The circuit operates by charging a  capacitor to a high voltage and then discharging it suddenly.  This sudden discharge creates conditions where the local environment feeds large amounts of free energy into the circuit.  This energy is "cold" electricity or "negative" electricity  and it acts in the opposite way to our everyday "hot" electricity.  Items such as resistors, transformers, coils, etc. which cause losses in a circuit driven by "hot" electricity, act in  exactly the reverse way for "cold" electricity and actually  gather additional energy into the circuit from the surrounding environment.  It would not be unusual for the circuit shown below to have an input of just 200 milliamps and yet generate an output %%[Page: 1]%%
 

power of 300 kilowatts.  The overall strategy is to have the circuit powered by a battery, and arrange for the circuit to charge a bank of batteries which can then be used to drive equipment and power other loads.  A circuit of this type can  reasonably be expected to have a COP (Coefficient of Performance, i.e. Power Out / Power In) of anything from 20 to 100.
 
The rate of charging of the output batteries increases gradually over a period of a week or so, and eventually the batteries should be charged about 50 times faster than is possible with conventional "hot" electricity.  The circuit looks  very simple, and indeed it is simple to build, but do not be fooled into thinking that it is a normal circuit - it isn't.  Thiscircuit is designed to capture external energy and its design is based on an understanding of exactly what the zeropoint energy field is, how it operates, and how to capture it.  This circuit can run continuously day and night.  In fact, it actually operates slightly better at night, due to reduced interference from other energy sources.  Here is the circuit:
 
There are no moving parts in this circuit.  The key component is the transformer which is a simple coil wound on a laminated iron-cored former.  It is wound with three separate  wires at the same time.  This method of winding is called  "Tri-Filar" and this particular coil is made with 450 turns of No 23 AWG wire (0.511 mm diameter conductor, equivalent to 25 SWG as shown in the table below).  The coil is wound with the three strands simultaneously, so that each  winding is exactly like each of the other two windings.  The circuit operation is as follows:
 
This section oscillate, generating an alternating signal in each of the three windings.  For clarity, the winding shown on the left looks shorter than the other winding, but in actual fact, each coil has 450 turns.  When the On/Off switch is  closed, powering up the circuit, this section gets kicked into oscillation, and it continues to oscillate as long as power is applied to the circuit.  A device like this tri-filar coil acts as  a collector (and effectively, an amplifier) of "cold" electr icity  drawn in from the surrounding environment.  This energy is passed through to the third winding: %%[Page: 2]%%
 

The power arriving in the third winding shown here, id rectified by a "bridge" of four diodes, each rated for operation at 1000 volts.  Although the battery powering this circuit is a 12 volt battery, the voltage coming out of the third winding  can easily be 300 volts.  This power is fed into the capacitor, whose value should be in the 1 to 10 microfarad range.  The capacitor voltage builds up with each successive pulse from the oscillator section, and then it is fed into the  batteries when the SCR (Silicon Controlled  Rectifier or "Thyristor") is switched  on suddenly by the transistor.  Both the capacitor and the batteries also act as collectors of "cold" electricity when operating in this circuit.  However, the energy  ends up as "hot" electricity inside the battery, and each charged battery can be used to power equipment in the normal way.  For example, the battery can power a standard inve rter which will supply mains  voltage sinewave power to  televisions, DVD recorders, computers, etc.  An important point to notice, is that this section of the circuit is "floating".  In other words, it is not grounded or earthed like the earlier section of the circuit.  The voltage being developed in the  capacitor is relative to the charging batteries and nothing else.  This is an important feature for the gathering of free energy from the environment.
 
The last section of the circuit is the timer which is used to switch on the SCR to feed power to the batteries:
 
The 555 timer chip is wired completely norm ally as a slow-running oscillator.  It is in a standard "hot" electricity circuit which is grounded.  For that reason, the output of the 555 chip on Pin 3, is fed to an opto-isolator, which keeps the two  circuits completely separate.  The 555 chip just switches the 2N3584 transistor hard on, which in turn, triggers the SCR into it's ON state, where it stays until the power in the capacitor has been transferred to the batteries as a massive  pulse.  When the voltage on the capacitor drops far enough, it starves the SCR of current, which causes the SCR to turn OFF, where it stays until triggered again by the 555 chip.
 
There is a good deal more information on this and other important circuits in the book by John Bedini and Tom Bearden and I encourage you again to buy a copy and study it carefully as it contains very important information giving  a clear insight into how the universe actually operates and how you personally can benefit from the knowledge.

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?
« Reply #1370 on: January 22, 2007, 04:19:10 AM »
Will be interesting to see if Bedini will ever find a way to keep the radiant energy flowing continuously, so he can use it directly rather than just charge batteries.  Seems like he is taking the long route.

Capacitor is the collector per Bedini's explanations.  Transformer and associated components provide the pulses.  Slow repetition rate.

Anyway, as you all can see by now - this is not rocket science - just backwater science on a shoe string.

If he can dump the RE to a battery then you can imping it onto a metallic collector.  Perhaps he did not havbe the oscillation that SM mentioned.  Perhaps he only scratched the surface...

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?
« Reply #1371 on: January 22, 2007, 04:55:39 AM »
Will be interesting to see if Bedini will ever find a way to keep the radiant energy flowing continuously, so he can use it directly rather than just charge batteries.  Seems like he is taking the long route.

Capacitor is the collector per Bedini's explanations.  Transformer and associated components provide the pulses.  Slow repetition rate.

Anyway, as you all can see by now - this is not rocket science - just backwater science on a shoe string.

If he can dump the RE to a battery then you can imping it onto a metallic collector.  Perhaps he did not havbe the oscillation that SM mentioned.  Perhaps he only scratched the surface...

There's a real study in UnderUnity. How many times does an answer have to be mentioned before somebody does it?  :D

--giantkiller. Let's see what this week brings. Like whatever day really matters. :D

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?
« Reply #1372 on: January 22, 2007, 08:51:07 AM »
@ devrimogun

 cold_circuit.jpg

this circuit is not working !

an scr can only switch on !
Never off !!

The voltage must come (also via pulses) to zero before an scr go off.
Some of this circuits are "untested" ideas , without knowledge in
electronic parts and components.
(it is your time , that will be lost)

Pese



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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?
« Reply #1373 on: January 22, 2007, 12:32:30 PM »
Hello all,

@Grumpy,

thanks for the pdf. Veeeery interesting.

Otto

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?
« Reply #1374 on: January 22, 2007, 04:35:39 PM »
@ devrimogun

 cold_circuit.jpg

this circuit is not working !

an scr can only switch on !
Never off !!

The voltage must come (also via pulses) to zero before an scr go off.
Some of this circuits are "untested" ideas , without knowledge in
electronic parts and components.
(it is your time , that will be lost)

Pese

Hi Pese and All,

With due respect, please have a look at the circuit again and notice the 3.3uF/600V puffer capacitor on the trafo secondary side, connected to the full wave bridge. The 3.3uF is a very small value capacitor for a normal puffer cap and can discharge easily into the very low impedance load, into the 2 batteries, via the scr.
You are right of course an scr cannot be controlled via its gate to switch it off and  here it is switched off when all the charge from the 3.3uF is transferred into the batteries, so the anode current of the scr goes down to zero, when the voltages in the cap and the battery become equal, ok?
From another Bedini yahoo group there was info that the 3.3uF cap charges up (it is allowed) to 24-25V DC under normal operation and this voltage goes down to the battery voltage when the scr fires.  The pulses from the NE555 come continuosly and their only task is to trigger the scr on.

So this circuit can work as is shown. Please think it over.  Usually there are lots of circuits on the internet which are 'bogus' or obviously cannot work. This circuit does not belong to them.  (and I am not a Bedini man of course to defend his circuits  :D )

Respectfully
Gyula

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?
« Reply #1375 on: January 22, 2007, 05:08:31 PM »
@ devrimogun

 cold_circuit.jpg

this circuit is not working !

an scr can only switch on !
Never off !!

The voltage must come (also via pulses) to zero before an scr go off.
Some of this circuits are "untested" ideas , without knowledge in
electronic parts and components.
(it is your time , that will be lost)

Pese


The circuit will work as designed.  The SCR will discharge the CAP until it reaches zero volts or near zero (relative to the battery voltage), then let go.  It won't stay on.

If John Bedini designed it you can bet it will work.

I've been following John's work for years.

The transistor is biased on by the 2K 10K resistors.  The power is applied and the second (middle) coil is charged which then induces a pulse into the windings. The output of the second winding counters the bias current feeding the transistor when it receives the pulse.  This abruptly turns off the power to the whole transformer.  In other words, little current is allowed to flow before the circuit shuts off, which then lets the radiant pulse live.  There's an RE window opened up with this circuit.

This circuit sets up a natural timing (RE window) that produces a radiant pulse, which is then soaked up by the third winding, which then charges the capacitor.  This circuit is a "radiant energy oscillator".  The capacitor is used to transform the RE energy into something that the battery can work with.  Apparently, it is dangerous to charge batteries with pure RE, as they tend to explode due to super charging.  Batteries have a lot of charge carriers (electrons and ions) that are energized with RE.  These charge carriers transform RE into your everyday hot electricity.

That circuit does the same thing as a Bedini battery charging motor and works off the same basic principle (turn off the transformer just before the RE disappears, but not too soon).

The circuit can actually be improved by replacing the SCR with a high voltage transistor and using the 555 to chop discharge the capacitor into the battery.   I seem to recall John doing this in one of his circuits.  The series of pulses seem to be more effective in charging the battery due to their coupling with the battery's multi-harmonic scalar potentials (or so the theory goes).  However, this may not be needed since the battery is getting a fast series of pulses from the discharge stream.





« Last Edit: January 22, 2007, 05:39:22 PM by mrl »

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?
« Reply #1376 on: January 22, 2007, 05:35:29 PM »
Will be interesting to see if Bedini will ever find a way to keep the radiant energy flowing continuously, so he can use it directly rather than just charge batteries.  Seems like he is taking the long route.

Capacitor is the collector per Bedini's explanations.  Transformer and associated components provide the pulses.  Slow repetition rate.

Anyway, as you all can see by now - this is not rocket science - just backwater science on a shoe string.

If he can dump the RE to a battery then you can imping it onto a metallic collector.  Perhaps he did not havbe the oscillation that SM mentioned.  Perhaps he only scratched the surface...

John has been at this a long time now.  He's built the EV Gray tube and has experimented with it.  I think what John wants to do is find a way that doesn't use kilovolts to produce the RE.  If you want a kick ass RE system just build a scaled down Magnifying Transmitter.  They're fairly simple.  The problem as I see it with these high energy RE systems is that they affect a large area around them, electrifying everything.  You may not want this.  What will this do to the sensitive electronic systems.  Good by TV, hello smoke.  Good by Ipod, hello sparks.

What I have been contemplating is to build a small (tabletop -- no more that about 10 inches high) Magnifying Transmitter that works off rectified line voltage (170 VDC) and and instead of a spark gap just use a MOSFET.  I'm sure kilovolts is not necessary to produce RE.  You just need fast unidirectional pulses of the right duration and the right transformer geometry.  You get less RE but then again that may be all you need to run your home.

Has anyone tried this approach?  It seems so obvious to me.  I've seen the plans for a solid state Tesla coil that has a ferocious output.  The thing was about eight inches high.  All the guy did was switch the rectified line voltage in to it using a push pull driver configuration.  The point is, he got a lot of power out of it using rectified line voltage.  All one needs to do is reconfigure that same basic system and go with unidirectional pulses.  It would take you an afternoon to rig up the transformer.  There are few winding in these things.  A toilet paper tube, or a paper cone form for the secondary and about three or four turns for the primary.  Use a 100 watt light bulb for a ballast resistor so you don't burn out your FET and hit that sucker with 170 volt DC pulses and see what happens.

Am I not seeing something here.  We have Tesla's designs all debugged and ready to go.  Just scale them down.

From what I can see, the EV Gray tube is a Magnifying Transmitter turned inside out.  We have the transmitter primary inside the tube and the secondary outside the tube.  They both seem to work off the same principle.

Ok -- now I'm ready to be ridiculed.  Where's the flaw in my thinking?



« Last Edit: January 22, 2007, 06:06:29 PM by mrl »

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?
« Reply #1377 on: January 22, 2007, 05:47:46 PM »

If John Bedini designed it you can bet it will work.

The circuit can actually be improved by replacing the SCR with a high voltage transistor and using the 555 to chop discharge the capacitor into the battery.   I seem to recall John doing this in one of his circuits.  The series of pulses seem to be more effective in charging the battery due to their coupling with the battery's multi-harmonic scalar potentials (or so the theory goes).  However, this may not be needed since the battery is getting a fast series of pulses from the discharge stream.


@All, Call to arms!

You mean just swap out the SCR with a TO-52 NPN HV tranny?
If somebody would show the diag with these updates, I will build in a day. After that the interfacing and coupling with the TPU will be inevitable. And that is the step I want! I want to screw around with operation here. That is why I ask. There are those of you that I know that see this.
The GK4 has 2,400 turns of magwire. If I have to wind the Bedini one for 450 turns, I'll do it! I can do that on the bus, at intersections, in a cab. Cake. Keep it simple for me and I'll do my complex part and then post it in it's simplicity.

Most of us have sig gens or 555s up and running. It has been 3 days and only 1 questioning the circuit. And that is pretty damn good. There have been other posts that don't make it an hour before it gets bashed into oblivion.

--giankiller. Any takers? I wait... 8)

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?
« Reply #1378 on: January 22, 2007, 06:11:15 PM »
Hi All,
This is my first post but i have been around reading and investigating about this coil thing and other ZPE devices. I find some very interesting things about toroidal current sensing coils.
I find one even on ebay claiming hes coils works and puts out 1000volts at 50ma that is like 200w
this one has a iron ferrite core and thousands of windings .
He does not sell the item itself just the plans. And he says he can built it for you if you wish for around $250.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AVRI&viewitem=&item=250076441046&rd=1&rd=1
If you not find the link just search for free energy coil. or by the sold items.
Good luck, Alex

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Re: user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?
« Reply #1379 on: January 22, 2007, 06:30:53 PM »

If John Bedini designed it you can bet it will work.

The circuit can actually be improved by replacing the SCR with a high voltage transistor and using the 555 to chop discharge the capacitor into the battery.   I seem to recall John doing this in one of his circuits.  The series of pulses seem to be more effective in charging the battery due to their coupling with the battery's multi-harmonic scalar potentials (or so the theory goes).  However, this may not be needed since the battery is getting a fast series of pulses from the discharge stream.


@All, Call to arms!

You mean just swap out the SCR with a TO-52 NPN HV tranny?
If somebody would show the diag with these updates, I will build in a day. After that the interfacing and coupling with the TPU will be inevitable. And that is the step I want! I want to screw around with operation here. That is why I ask. There are those of you that I know that see this.
The GK4 has 2,400 turns of magwire. If I have to wind the Bedini one for 450 turns, I'll do it! I can do that on the bus, at intersections, in a cab. Cake. Keep it simple for me and I'll do my complex part and then post it in it's simplicity.

Most of us have sig gens or 555s up and running. It has been 3 days and only 1 questioning the circuit. And that is pretty damn good. There have been other posts that don't make it an hour before it gets bashed into oblivion.

--giankiller. Any takers? I wait... 8)


You can eliminate the 555 timer in that circuit (it's just a bill-dog trigger), eliminate the other trigger transistor, keep the SCR (or use a triac).  Trigger the triac using either a neon bulb or a high voltage zener diode. This will be simpler.  I'll try and work up a schematic.