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Author Topic: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video  (Read 224075 times)

listener191

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #450 on: March 28, 2018, 08:34:31 PM »
Hi Stefan, i saved all of them.
I think this is one you are looking for, it is called, '100%free energy generator139v 1600watt WOW!! revolutionary DZ generator first part - YouTube'.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/gv7o05p9khdpzu9/100%25free%20energy%20generator139v%201600watt%20WOW%21%21%20revolutionary%20DZ%20generator%20first%20part%20-%20YouTube.mp4

peace love light

Hi Skywatcher,

Can you provide the links to the other videos?

Thanks

Regards
L192

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #451 on: March 28, 2018, 09:29:40 PM »
I know some have ordered BTS7960B's to make their own half bridges.
Attached is a board that can be found on Ebay for about $6. It has two BTS7960B's, each device is a half bridge.

Control is similar to the L298N. This device can handle 43A continuous and up to 45V. It has a complementary  MOSFET output stage. The MOSFET body diodes provide the path for coil energy recovery.

The L298N was only considered for driving each coil individually as an H bridge. Now we are going down the half bridge ladder scheme, the 3.5A parallel arrangement capacity is likely to be too low. I have looked at adding a MOSFET power stage but have decided not to do that, due to a quick cost calculation of parts. It makes better financial sense to just change the whole board.

I plan to use the L298N's for initial testing to ensure I have all connections made correctly, basically a low current run. Then I will change to these BTS7960B boards. 

Regards

L192



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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #452 on: March 28, 2018, 10:34:08 PM »
Regarding the H-bridges, it requires two complement digital inputs (A and Abar as only one of the outputs should be on at a time). The Arduino only gives the A digital output, the complement (Abar) needs to be generated otherwise (the Arduino doesn't have that many outputs). Pierre's transistor board probably did this. So Luc will need some more electronics to control all the H-bridges properly (with A and Abar).


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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #453 on: March 28, 2018, 10:36:39 PM »
Hi Skywatcher,

Can you provide the links to the other videos?

Thanks

Regards
L192
To everyone,
Don't you think it would be wiser to first ask Pierre if he's okay with us making his videos publicly available?
If you upset him, do you think he will have trust in us and come back?
Please stop this now.

I had a guy email me a few days ago asking if I have copies of Pierre's videos, which I do have for my own personal research but I would never share them to the general public unless Pierre told me he's okay with it. Please respect his wishes not to have his videos available to the public until he says he's okay with it.
Just look at his final response (below) I got when I told this guy I can't share without Pierre's permission. It took no time to see this guys true colors :o
Regards
Luc

Fr. À tout le monde,
Ne pensez-vous pas qu'il serait plus sage de demander d'abord à Pierre s'il est d'accord avec nous pour rendre ses vidéos accessibles au public?
Si vous le contrariez, pensez-vous qu'il aura confiance en nous et qu'il reviendra?
S'il vous plaît arrêtez ça maintenant.

Un gars m'a envoyé un courriel il y a quelques jours me demandant si j'avais des copies des vidéos de Pierre. Oui j'en ai pour ma recherche personnelle mais je ne les partagerais jamais avec le grand public à moins que Pierre me dise qu'il est d'accord avec ça. S'il vous plait, respectez ses désirs de ne pas mettre ses vidéos à la disposition du public jusqu'à ce qu'il dise qu'il est d'accord avec ça.
Regarder la réponse (ci-dessous) que j'ai eue quand j'ai dit au type que je ne peux pas partager sans la permission de Pierre. Il n'a pas fallu de temps pour voir les vraies couleurs de ce gars ???
Cordialement
Luc

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #454 on: March 28, 2018, 10:42:44 PM »
J'ai identifié la position des LEDS bleues

I identified the position of the blue LEDs

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #455 on: March 28, 2018, 11:15:52 PM »
J'ai identifié la position des LEDS bleues

I identified the position of the blue LEDs

This is important: Pierres repetition frequency of all (blue LED) steps IS about 5 HZ !!
Ceci est important: la fréquence de répétition Pierres de toutes les étapes (LED bleue) est d'environ 5 Hz!

« Last Edit: March 29, 2018, 11:12:44 AM by seaad »

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #456 on: March 28, 2018, 11:49:19 PM »
It's like binary code, the more coils you have the more back spikes you can collect.
One coil gives you 2 points of collection, Two coils give you 6 points of collection.
The more points of collection you add ,the smaller they get, but the sum of points is greater than the lesser amount.
Also the faster you switch ,the greater the collection.
I still think there is lenz but maybe not, or maybe not as prominent , not sure?
Just what I'm testing right now, These are only my thoughts and where I'm looking, maybe it'l lead somewhere.
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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #457 on: March 29, 2018, 12:52:45 AM »
J'ai identifié la position des LEDS bleues

I identified the position of the blue LEDs

To ensure if that is correct - https://filebin.net/a59twe0yqzthkgy7/100_free_energy_generator139v_1600watt___DZ_generator__part_4-slowmo.mp4
Hopefully Pierre will not have objections about few seconds clip cut.

And pictures from explanation video:
https://i.imgur.com/hpDXFv4.png
https://i.imgur.com/CwrNJVB.png
https://i.imgur.com/NkNCryA.png

Cheers!

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #458 on: March 29, 2018, 10:39:48 AM »
I see not work (LED) 3-8 relays ? LED broken ?

Did anyone make a diagram LEDs blue to RED (relays)?

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #459 on: March 29, 2018, 11:19:40 AM »
This is important: Pierres Output frequency IS about 15 HZ !!

NOT 60 Hz !!

Ceci est important: La fréquence de sortie de Pierres est d'environ 15 Hz!

PAS 60 Hz !!

http://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/msg518827/#msg518827

Quote; ""Some here think a replication is based around the physical properties of a device,when they should base it around working principles of the device.
Brad ""
« Last Edit: March 29, 2018, 03:22:23 PM by seaad »

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #460 on: March 29, 2018, 01:57:38 PM »
Recherche de la fréquence de commutation :

Nous savons maintenant qu’il y a 24 délais dans le programme Arduino dont la durée dépend du potentiomètre. Celui-ci est mesuré sur l’entrée A0 : «int y= analogRead(0); «
Il peut prendre la valeur de 0 à 1023 mais est réduit de 0 à 10 par l’instruction «x= map(y,0,1000 ,1,10);» . (10 maximum dans la vidéo de Pierre et 100 dans ce que Luc a publié)
Donc  chaque délai ne peut prendre que des valeurs entières de : 0, 1, 2, 3,,,,
La boucle du programme fait soit 24  x 1 ms = 24 mS, 24 x 2 = 48 mS, 72 mS, …
On rajoute environ 0,65 mS pour les autres instructions («digitalWrite»)
La rotation durera :
x   Rotation   Fréquence   Relai       Fréquence de sortie
         (F)      (2 pas)            (3 poles N S = 3 F)
1   24,65 mS  soit 40,56 Hz   2 ms      121,70 Hz
2   48,65      20,55      4      61,66
3   72,65      13,76      6      41,29
4   96,65      10,34      8      31,03
5   120,65      8,28      10      24,86
6   144,65      6,94      12      20,73
7   168,65      5,92      14      17,78
8   192,65      5,19      16      15,57
9   216,65      4,61      18      13,84
10   240,65      4,15      20      12,46

x = 1mS semble trop court pour les relais même s’ils sont activés pendant 2 pas.
2mS est plus intéressant car on a 48mS pour la boucle : comme on a 3 pôles N et 3 S, c’est comme si le programme bouclait en 48,65/3 = 16,21 mS. Ce qui donne du 61Hz vu de la bobine de sortie.

Mais il est vrai que la cadence semble être plus lente vers 5 Hz soit 15,57 vu de la sortie avec x =8 .

Remarque :
- On n’a pas besoin du potentiomètre si l’objectif est une fréquence fixe unique.
Il suffit de déclarer la variable en lui donnant sa valeur directement. Par exemple «int x = 2;»
(cela devient une constante)
Pour avoir un 60Hz précis, on peut remplacer les instructions «delay» par«delayMicroseconds» et ajuster expérimentalement la constante autour de 2000 : «const int x = 2000;»
On supprime les instructions y = analogRead(0);  et   x = map(y,0,1000,1,10); ce qui rend la boucle plus rapide et plus régulière. (environ 160 uS gagnés)

- Pour un stator à 30 fentes, 30 bobines le programme ne comportera que 20 délais.
Dans l’exemple ou x vaut 2, le programme bouclera en 20 x 2 = 40mS et divisés par 3 = 75Hz.
Pour avoir du 60Hz, x vaudra plutôt: «const int x = 2400;»

- Je pense que nous n’avons pas le programme exact :
*L’instruction map de Luc est différente de celle diffusée par Pierre sur Youtube.
* On ne voit jamais toutes les LEDS éteintes contrairement à ce que l’on attend avec la version Youtube.

Dans ma simulation j’ai corrigé de la façon suivante :

void loop()
{
 y = analogRead(0); // transforme x en une valeur de 0 à 10 (millisecondes)
 x = map(y,0,1000,1,10);
  digitalWrite(2,HIGH), digitalWrite(14,HIGH), digitalWrite(26,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(1,LOW),  digitalWrite(13,LOW),  digitalWrite(25,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(3,HIGH), digitalWrite(15,HIGH), digitalWrite(27,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(2,LOW),  digitalWrite(14,LOW),  digitalWrite(26,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(4,HIGH), digitalWrite(16,HIGH), digitalWrite(28,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(3,LOW),  digitalWrite(15,LOW),  digitalWrite(27,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(5,HIGH), digitalWrite(17,HIGH), digitalWrite(29,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(4,LOW),  digitalWrite(16,LOW),  digitalWrite(28,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(6,HIGH), digitalWrite(18,HIGH), digitalWrite(30,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(5,LOW),  digitalWrite(17,LOW),  digitalWrite(29,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(7,HIGH), digitalWrite(19,HIGH), digitalWrite(31,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(6,LOW),  digitalWrite(18,LOW),  digitalWrite(30,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(8,HIGH), digitalWrite(20,HIGH), digitalWrite(32,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(7,LOW),  digitalWrite(19,LOW),  digitalWrite(31,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(9,HIGH), digitalWrite(21,HIGH), digitalWrite(33,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(8,LOW),  digitalWrite(20,LOW),  digitalWrite(32,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(10,HIGH), digitalWrite(22,HIGH), digitalWrite(34,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(9,LOW),  digitalWrite(21,LOW),  digitalWrite(33,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(11,HIGH), digitalWrite(23,HIGH), digitalWrite(35,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(10,LOW),  digitalWrite(22,LOW),  digitalWrite(34,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(12,HIGH), digitalWrite(24,HIGH), digitalWrite(36,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(11,LOW),  digitalWrite(23,LOW),  digitalWrite(35,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(1,HIGH),  digitalWrite(13,HIGH),  digitalWrite(25,HIGH);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(12,LOW), digitalWrite(24,LOW), digitalWrite(36,LOW); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
 }

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #461 on: March 29, 2018, 02:07:57 PM »
English

Search of the switching frequency:

We now know that there are 24 delays in the Arduino program whose duration depends on the potentiometer. This is measured on the input A0: "int y = analogRead (0); "
It can take the value from 0 to 1023 but is reduced from 0 to 10 by the statement "x = map (y, 0,1000, 1,10);". (10 maximum in Peter's video and 100 in what Luke has published)
So each delay can only take integer values of: 0, 1, 2, 3 ,,,,
The loop of the program is either 24 x 1 ms = 24 mS, 24 x 2 = 48 mS, 72 mS, ...
We add about 0.65 mS for other instructions ("digitalWrite")
The rotation will last:
x Rotation Frequency Relay Output Frequency(F) (2 steps) (3 poles N S = 3 F)
1   24,65 mS  soit 40,56 Hz   2 ms      121,70 Hz
2   48,65      20,55      4      61,66
3   72,65      13,76      6      41,29
4   96,65      10,34      8      31,03
5   120,65      8,28     10      24,86
6   144,65      6,94     12      20,73
7   168,65      5,92     14      17,78
8   192,65      5,19     16      15,57
9   216,65      4,61     18      13,84
10   240,65      4,15    20      12,46

x = 1mS seems too short for relays even if they are activated for 2 steps.
2mS is more interesting because we have 48mS for the loop: as we have 3 poles N and 3 S, it is as if the program looped in 48.65 / 3 = 16.21 mS. Which gives the 61Hz seen from the output coil.

But it is true that the reality seems to be slower towards 5 Hz is 15.57 seen from the output with
x = 8.
Notes:
- The potentiometer is not needed if the we need a single fixed frequency.
Simply declare the variable by giving it its value directly. For example, "const int x = 2;"
(it becomes a constant)
To have a precise 60Hz, we can replace the "delay" instructions with "delayMicroseconds" and experimentally adjust the constant around 2000: "const int x = 2000;"
We can delete the statements y = analogRead (0); and x = map (y, 0,1000,1,10); which makes the loop faster and more regular. (about 160 uS won)

- For a stator with 30 slots, 30 coils the program will only have 20 delays.
In the example where x = 2, the program will loop in 20 x 2 = 40mS which gives 75Hz.
To have 60Hz, x will be worth: "const int x = 2400;"

- I think we do not have the exact program:
* The instruction map of Luc is different from the one that is broadcast by Pierre on Youtube.
* We never see all the LEDs off contrary to what is expected with the Youtube version.

In my simulation I corrected as follows:  (see previous post)

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #462 on: March 29, 2018, 03:10:39 PM »
pour tout qui s'intéresse à la fréquence de rotation du champ magnétique ,je suggère de revoir
la video parite 1,à 6 min ,quand pierre introduit le rotore à 2 aimants ,
on voie très bien que :
1/ la vitesse est très faible
2/ la rotation du champ n'est pas linéaire
3/ le pas n'est pas régulier (probablement les pole ne sont pas égaux ?)

cela me fait dire que les 60Hz c'est pas possible ,plutôt dans les 5hz?
qu'en pensez-vous

cordialement ,Mosha

EN/for anyone interested in the frequency of rotation of the magnetic field, I suggest to revisit video parite 1, at 6 min, when Pierre introduces the rotor with 2 magnets, we see very well that:
 1 / speed is very low
 2 / the rotation of the field is not linear
3 / the step is not regular (probably the pole is not equal?)
 that makes me say that the 60Hz is not possible, rather in 5hz? What do you think

best regards, Mosha

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #463 on: March 29, 2018, 03:37:50 PM »
cela me fait dire que les 60Hz c'est pas possible ,plutôt dans les 5hz?
qu'en pensez-vous
EN/
(probably the pole is not equal?) that makes me say that the 60Hz is not possible, rather in 5hz? What do you think best regards, Mosha[/left]

Now Mosha, it's time to pick up your motor idea  and start testing new ideas. FR/ Maintenant, Mosha, il est temps de prendre votre idée de moteur et de commencer à tester de nouvelles idées.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOvtCt1MkhY

Arne

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #464 on: March 29, 2018, 04:17:49 PM »
arne,

merci pour le lien ,je découvre que mon idée  a déjà  exister et tant mieux .malheureusement je ne comprend  pas l'Allemand .

en fait je suis déjà entrain de faire cette expérience depuis quelque jours ,avec un commutateur mécanique dans un premier temps .

cependant je continue surtout à essayer de comprendre le système car il y'a beaucoup d'incohérence concernant la fréquence .est ce vraiment un champ rotative ? ne peut-il pas s'agir d'un champ vibratoire ? 

cordialement,Mosha

EN:

arne,

thank you for the link, I discover that my idea has already exist and so much. unfortunately I do not understand German.

in fact I am already doing this experiment for a few days, with a mechanical switch at first.

however, I still mostly try to understand the system because there is a lot of inconsistency about the frequency. Is it really a rotating field? can not it be a vibratory field?