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Author Topic: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video  (Read 223930 times)

ramset

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Did just speak with GotoLuc {Luc]
he is going to reach out for Pierre

respectfully
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Hi guys,

I sent pedro1 (Pierre Cotnoir) a private massage (in French) to welcome him and offer my help with translation since my mother tung is French. Looks like we are both French Canadian.
Hopefully we can talk on the phone and I can help answer some questions.

Regards

Luc

listener191

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There are multiple patents that cover rotating/traveling wave magnetic fields, that purport to be OU/self powering.

One of these patents is attached. I built figure 14 from this patent (attached image), which is one of the simplest implementations. This was about nine years ago.

At the time I never had the right equipment to analyze the power from the two phase output.

I assumed at the time, that lenz would have to be circumvented for these schemes to work.

Also attached is a linear version of the 3 phase transformer described in the patent (the last few steel sections missing). I can confirm this variant showed no remarkable performance and it was clear that a closed stator was likely the only way the operation described, could be reproduced.

L192
« Last Edit: April 01, 2018, 04:46:43 AM by gotoluc »

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I think I can see how the pulsed stator sections are achieving the apparent OU effect.

The angle of flux arrival into the central core section is changing over time however, the CEMF associated with the load is directed back into the stator at largely the same fixed angle. Although only a single coil is being pulsed at any one time, the flux will also couple back to the other side of the central core via the stator. 

At the point where the CEMF flux couples to the stator there will be a phase difference between the two fluxes. Essentially the CEMF does not cancel the energizing flux, in fact it may even reenforce it if the phase difference is sufficient.

The efficiency would be a limited by a single central core coil. I would think three core/coil  sections spaced at 120 deg would do better.

Being a pulsed system, energy recovery is also possible when each coil turns off.

The three phase transformer patent, based on an induction motor stator, is harder to explain however, perhaps there is a flux circulating in the stator that is being reused. 

L192

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Hi L192
Thanks for the good theory why and how it works.
Okki from Germany just gave me good idea in an email to me today;
why not try this with a car alternator?
Just to see the effect and what happens with that....anyways this a pretty good initial simple experiment to try - the pulse to stators could even be done with timing disc with small magnets on it, against hall effects to trip mosfets or just do the arduino if you have it and know how...
konehead

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ok, to share something, some time ago when I wrote a comment on Pierre's video then immediately removed the video and I got the following answer to my question which is contained below

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Well guys, no reply from Pierre.
I left him a French personal message on youtube and as well here on this site.
No reply until now.
From my years of experience that's not a good start if someone has nothing to hide.
If you are reading this message Pierre, please send me a reply email at:  gotoluc2@gmail.com
I would like to call you to ask some questions (in French) as your English translation is a little confusing.
Let me help you and the other researchers here.

Luc

Fr. Eh bien les gars, pas de réponse de Pierre.
Je lui ai laissé un message personnel en français sur youtube et aussi sur ce site.
Pas de réponse jusqu'à maintenant.
De mes années d'expérience, ce n'est pas un bon début si quelqu'un n'a rien à cacher.
Si vous lisez ce message Pierre, s'il vous plaît envoyez-moi un email de réponse à:  gotoluc2@gmail.com
Je voudrais vous appeler pour poser quelques questions car votre traduction anglaise est un peu confuse.
Laissez-moi vous aider ainsi que les autres chercheurs ici.

Sincères amitiés

Luc
« Last Edit: April 01, 2018, 04:50:52 AM by gotoluc »

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Je ne comprends pas où va le 25V des super capacités. Il y a un +5V pour les relais et un 12V séparé pour l'Arduino.
Seule réponse :pour alimenter les 36 bobines

I don't understand where the SuperCap 25V DC is wired. There are a +5V power supply for the relays and a 12V one for the Arduino.
Only one answer :  to power the 36 coils.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2018, 12:12:26 AM by cheors »

e2matrix

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Well guys, no reply from Pierre.
I left him a French personal message on youtube and as well here on this site.
No reply until now.
From my years of experience that's not a good start if someone has nothing to hide.
If you are reading this message Pierre, please send me a reply email at:  gotoluc2@gmail.com
I would like to call you to ask some questions (in French) as your English translation is a little confusing.
Let me help you and the other researchers here.

Luc

IN FRENCH


Eh bien les gars, pas de réponse de Pierre.
Je lui ai laissé un message personnel en français sur youtube et aussi sur ce site.
Pas de réponse jusqu'à maintenant.
De mes années d'expérience, ce n'est pas un bon début si quelqu'un n'a rien à cacher.
Si vous lisez ce message Pierre, s'il vous plaît envoyez-moi un email de réponse à:  gotoluc2@gmail.com
Je voudrais vous appeler pour poser quelques questions car votre traduction anglaise est un peu confuse.
Laissez-moi vous aider ainsi que les autres chercheurs ici.

Sincères amitiés

Luc


Luc,  I tried leaving Pierre a second message here yesterday but got "Inbox full" on his account so I suspect he may have been overwhelmed with PM's after I posted his user name in this thread.   I did get a reply from him to my first message which he wrote in French.  I'm just in the process of translating that at the moment.   
   He thanked me for the message, and for all the other members who wrote to him.   He mentions he may have built something that bypasses some laws but said there are always ways around some laws.   He said there is still much to do and that he will respond to my messages when he has the time but that he also works so does not have a lot of time.   Since he replied in French and I used Google to translate I think that is the essence of the message although there were some other mention that he will do another video to explain the principle of his device.   

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #100 on: March 06, 2018, 07:36:01 PM »
Thanks for the information e2matrix.
My first language is French, so if you want me to do a reliable translation feel free to email or pm me the text.

Luc

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #101 on: March 06, 2018, 07:36:08 PM »
Another thing I noticed on the transistors that drive the relays:


There are 37 of them on the board, but one is not functional (number 35 if you count from the bottom right to the left and then upwards starting at the right again).


The transistors are activated as follows: 2 on, 8 off, 2 on, 10 off, 2 on 12 off, lets call it 8-10-12 pattern. They follow the following on pattern when running (numbering as indicated above)


1,2;11,12;23,24
2,3;12,13;25,26
3,4;13,14;26,27
etc.


So there are six coils activated at each point in time. This is why Pierre mentions in video 1 that there are six magnetic fields in the stator.


Not sure why he is using this odd 8-10-12 "off" pattern; it would have been more logical to have used a 10-10-10 "off" pattern. But I think he does it to make a phase delay between the three "phases" of transistors that are on. If 36 coils represent 360deg (one full rotation), a "phase" shift of 2 transistors out of 36 yields -20deg and +20deg.


Based on earlier discussion, each red relay light goes on at a speed of about once per second when the video is played at 0.25x speed. So at normal 1x video speed it flashes 4 times per second (3.75-4Hz or 0.25-0.27sec). As each red led goes on 3 times per full rotation, one full stator rotation takes 0.75sec, or 1.33Hz. I think this is in agreement with how slow his wood-stick magnet pointer behaves when he sticks it into the stator in video 1.


Lastly, I also looked up the Arduino 2560 and it has 54 digital I/O pins, so enough to drive 36 transistors.


PmgR

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #102 on: March 06, 2018, 07:49:57 PM »
1/36 or 3/36...

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #103 on: March 07, 2018, 08:39:12 AM »
What Pierre needs is knowledgeable people making critical comments. The self-looping has not been clearly demonstrated; there are many ways to fake that.
There have been no explanations of where the allegedly "free energy" comes from.
You can be sure that his device does NOT do what is claimed.
Memoryman! You speak out of the old memory bro! You better open your eyes and see how the circuit is looped and don't be shy, scared or resentful to accept the self evidence of technology that right before our eyes that is clearly looped, period. Whether you like to admitted or not.
Trust yourself and accept the truth which will set you free.  No need to be slaves of outdated physics formulas creates mental blocks.
 
This man's achievement it's a stupendous victory for perpetual motion seekers and demonstrated as a true fact! He did it and in can be done again and again.
That leaves miles behind so called educated or academic accomplished people that some still today accepts the lie as a ultimate truth! Spend years leaning in great halls and they become super proud of knowing what doesn't work!  Blind leading blind also is acceptable in blinds world. But, once your eyes are open and see the world you can never go back again!

Wonderfully created school buildings it does give a credibility and legitimacy what they teach! But, let us not be ignorant anymore for outdated so called earthly physics formulas that they still operated in the minds of limited thinkers and educators "like Microsoft Windows 3.1 that still operates well perform many tasks with a great speed".  This was really true in 1992, but the question is: is it today?   LOL     

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #104 on: March 07, 2018, 12:27:49 PM »
The stator looks like that from a 36 slot, three phase generator.

Would also explain why the rotor fits so well. Also looks like he has used a sleeve to remove the airgap, to make sure it doesn't turn

Difficult to determine but it looks like a 8 slot pitch lap winding for the 36 coils.

Did he rewind or just snip wire to isolate the coils so they could be individually connected?

L192.