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Author Topic: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video  (Read 223957 times)

e2matrix

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Two videos of a very impressive build that is Arduino controlled.  72 relays, 36 transistors, custom made transformer and coil and a ton of wiring.   IMO this is not the kind of Youtube someone makes just to get hits and it looks like he really has a looped setup.  He unplugs the main input from the wall and plugs it into the output.  Other than the little 5 volt wall adapter and 12 volt adapter for the Arduino and electronics it is looped and it is shown powering a 1600 watt microwave where he heats up a cup of water with temperature readings of the water before and after heating - all the while only consuming about 170 watts from the output of the big coil which is looped and feeding the input to the system.   Digital meters show inputs and outputs.  I'm fairly certain he could be running the two adapters for the electronics off his output also.   He could have them running off a battery / inverter combo and then have a charger on the battery for the inverter making it a completely self running system without any outside power input after it is started.   Very nice videos - no shaky vids here  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7BZeeJmvjY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtDgpRV5fXs

I don't believe there is anything fake going on with this build but if you see something please comment.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2018, 04:18:36 AM by gotoluc »

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2018, 10:24:38 PM »
Hi e2matrix,

He does have something there with that simplistic little flywheel setup. What he has is nature on his side and the kinetic energy that anyone of us can and does GENERATE each and every time we move, or move anything else on this world.

His latest setup makes sense to me, and when someone steps forward to help him eliminate the weak links (relays) and clean it up to a few plug in circuit board modules with sockets for components and plug in wiring harness connectors it will be a lot less intimidating to others.

It will always cost plenty to build because anything real uses real parts that not everyone can build.

Nice find and his cat video is fine too.


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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2018, 08:45:06 PM »

I would like to contact Pierre Cotnoir the poster of the movie.
Anyone here from Quebec I think that's where he is?
Or anyone have some contact for him??
let me know if possible.
I would like to have a chat with him about his stuff. :) :)
Thanks gsm

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2018, 10:03:05 PM »
I think this circuit could work... Also no hidden wires to see in the video...

 I guess the current is generated in the pickup coil without the usual lenz dragging effect because there is no moving rotor - the rotating magnetic field makes this possible.

 In a normal generator we have a moving rotor that is generating CounterEMF.

Here we don´t have this and if the energized  coil switches off, we have probably multiple pickup coils that can pickup the BackEMF and charge back up the supercaps from it.

So we have to differentiate between CounterEMF and BackEMF here in this machine !

So this is definately a Lenz law circumvention device. Well done Pierre !

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2018, 11:32:58 PM »
"I think this circuit could work... Also no hidden wires to see in the video..." well, if you could see HIDDEN wires, they would not be well hidden, would they?
Note that this is NOT self-looped, as there it requires external supplies; it should be easy to make it true self-looped, but that has NOT be done.
Another fail...

e2matrix

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2018, 07:31:44 AM »
"I think this circuit could work... Also no hidden wires to see in the video..." well, if you could see HIDDEN wires, they would not be well hidden, would they?
Note that this is NOT self-looped, as there it requires external supplies; it should be easy to make it true self-looped, but that has NOT be done.
Another fail...


He loops the main power being used.   The two small power supplies for the electronics consume very little compared to the microwave oven.   I mentioned to him that it would be nice if he could do exactly that - include the power supplies for the Arduino and electronics in the system (a number of ways to do that) and I would hope he will do so if he really wants to really knock the ball out of the park.   ;)

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2018, 11:22:15 AM »
The powersupplies are 5V 2A and 12V 4.16A, so in total max. 60watts.
this has nothing to do, to power a microwave oven.

if it is a scam, he must install a cable behind the output coil.
And it seems he did this - watch between 7:00-7:30 min, when he install the coil.
After the coil is in the motor frame at 7:23 there is a video cut!
Voltagemeter behind goes from 22 to 24V....

During the cut he has time to install the cable behind :-(

The question is:
why someone spend so much time to make such a setup, only for some youtube clicks?

Acca

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2018, 01:18:12 PM »
 Here is the Lemanski motor that uses back EMF to run. Like a dog running after it’s tail..

IT'S The Russian Federation discovery and made possible by people donations.. made with Russian hands all of IT !!

December 2014  and it was a real deal … You Americans still believe in fantasy of  Santa too.. get real..

глобальный волновой леманский двигатель
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYYynctrQog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEeCAS_IEiU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0INcKoGjFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyh3ztkycK0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdldGAYJGKM
 
ps… this project was all documented with hundreds of hours of video over a year...
How they say in America to us: You are a "GREAT POWER"...with very smart engineers..  Thanks !!!
Acca..
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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2018, 08:55:52 PM »
The powersupplies are 5V 2A and 12V 4.16A, so in total max. 60watts.
this has nothing to do, to power a microwave oven.

if it is a scam, he must install a cable behind the output coil.
And it seems he did this - watch between 7:00-7:30 min, when he install the coil.
After the coil is in the motor frame at 7:23 there is a video cut!
Voltagemeter behind goes from 22 to 24V....

During the cut he has time to install the cable behind :-(


Well, he still moves the motor core several times also during installation of the Microwave and
it does not seem to have additional cables from the backside...

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The question is:
why someone spend so much time to make such a setup, only for some youtube clicks?

Yes, maybe he wants to have 5 Million views on Youtube or more maybe only for the ad revenue, if it is really a fake ??
But who knows... Let´s just wait for his next video about it, where he promised to show total selfrunning of this thing....

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2018, 10:12:33 PM »
About the Russian generator, any similarity is just a coincidence.




Ariovaldo


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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2018, 04:54:17 PM »
In the video he is showing the electronics and relay circuit is to produce a rotating magnetic field.

If so we can replication this setup with a 3 phase induction motor with VFD to control rotating magnetic field.

And just remove the rotor and replace with his 2 pair 20AWG coil wire on a solid block of metal with outlet to take power.

Then this is the setup if it works ,no need for complicated circuits.

Reference of rotating magnetic field in 3 phase motor

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2018, 05:02:17 PM »
In the video he is showing the electronics and relay circuit is to produce a rotating magnetic field.

If so we can replication this setup with a 3 phase induction motor with VFD to control rotating magnetic field.

And just remove the rotor and replace with his 2 pair 20AWG coil wire on a solid block of metal with outlet to take power.

Then this is the setup if it works ,no need for complicated circuits.

Reference of rotating magnetic field in 3 phase motor


I agree that we can simulate that.  I was just think about that last night. will try!
Just two points to take in consideration:
1) If we connect the VFD straight to the motor stator without the rotor, we can fry the motor, unless we set the vfd in v/f and start with low frequency.
2) It looks like he is recovering some "juice" using a second winding in the same stator slot. So in this case we need pulsed dc.

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2018, 05:49:26 PM »

I agree that we can simulate that.  I was just think about that last night. will try!
Just two points to take in consideration:
1) If we connect the VFD straight to the motor stator without the rotor, we can fry the motor, unless we set the vfd in v/f and start with low frequency.
2) It looks like he is recovering some "juice" using a second winding in the same stator slot. So in this case we need pulsed dc.

yes i knw , thats why he has used 24volt dc .
if we modify the vfd to work in safe zone then it will be possible.

Any one here with induction motor and vfd drive knowledge  ,please contribute.

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2018, 05:52:35 PM »
yes i knw , thats why he has used 24volt dc .
if we modify the vfd to work in safe zone then it will be possible.

Any one here with induction motor and vfd drive knowledge  ,please contribute.


Yeap. That is my field.
Next week I will test that.

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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2018, 06:04:24 PM »
Ari how are you going to eliminate the back EMF ?  This is where the relays switch to capture the downward collapse of the magnetic opposing the field .


Acca..