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synchro1

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #135 on: February 22, 2018, 03:06:45 AM »
New new fast food franchise: Tinsel Kenturky Fried Chicken.


I added a new comment to my negative inductance and magnet field thread to help.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2018, 12:23:19 PM by synchro1 »

postingsite

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #136 on: February 22, 2018, 04:19:32 AM »
       
     So maybe there could be an Electrostatic version of an SMT,  but much more difficult, and there'd be no point if a  magnetic one loops continually

      Note,  the video moves around in the the 2nd scene,  so I doubt there has been any editing

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #137 on: February 22, 2018, 09:19:47 PM »
  I  didn't  know that there may also be some  Solid-State  overunity-self-powered generators actually available,    but still,  since they're not recognized outside of where they make them,  which would give them all the protocols( etc ) of normal products,   it makes it very difficult to consider buying one 
   Although,  for those people who personally know( close friends etc ) people who have received a functioning product,  they would hesitate less,  since they can then inspect it etc,  before buying one
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   @sm0ky2
     sm0ky2 mentioned on a thread that when he applied current to 2 hollow metal-spheres, that they remained locked together after he disconnected the current
       -  Maybe it was 'Electro-Static-Charge-Seperation' , and maybe the sphere's also held the charge inside ,  unless it was something magnetic or electromagnetic

      It would be excellent if we had some links or diagrams about the    "singular-pole magnetic beam. (magnetic laser)"    that   sm0ky2  mentioned,    but some of those   tri-force  threads have too many pages to read through

       If it is correct that the magnetic-field is actually the  electric-field,  then maybe an  'Electros-Static'  version of the  'Permanent-Magnet-Laser'  mentioned  by  sm0ky2  could also be achieved.
         I say that,  because I wonder if inside a highly  positively-charged  piece of styrofoam( electret ),  if there is an equally( ? ) high negative-charge(  inside of the styrofoam( electret ),   which is similar to a  Permanent-Magnet


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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #138 on: February 22, 2018, 09:29:24 PM »
       If it is correct that the magnetic-field is actually the  electric-field,  then maybe an  'Electros-Static'  version of the  'Permanent-Magnet-Laser'  mentioned  by  sm0ky2  could also be achieved.
         I say that,  because I wonder if inside a highly  positively-charged  piece of styrofoam( electret ),  if there is an equally( ? ) high negative-charge(  inside of the styrofoam( electret ),   which is similar to a  Permanent-Magnet

    I forgot to add,  that in order to make an 'Electros-Static'  version of the  'Permanent-Magnet-Laser'  mentioned  by  sm0ky2,   you would have to push a  postive-electrostatic-charge  to one side of an electret( eg. styrofoam ),  so that the electret( eg. styrofoam ) would have an 'Electros-Static'  N and S pole  .

sm0ky2

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #139 on: February 22, 2018, 10:02:39 PM »
Maybe not.....


From what little could be learned from the magneticnlaser experiment
is was a field compression effect
It can be done with the magnetic meridian, as well as either pole.
But the simplest form
was n-n-n
or s-s-s
Repelling each other, until the center field collapsed into a finite beam.
Which suggests that, yes we should be able to do it with 3 charged conductors.
using electrostatic fields of either polarity.


The test should be simple enough
The way it works is: two fields approach from an angle on each side
Like from kind of behind the 3rd field
Like the shape of the two-force
But using 3 like poles on one ball
So electrostatically, it would be 3 charged spheres in the air (not touching) but forming a triangle
Basically forcing the charge in.the sphere to the outer curvature away from both of the other 2
The 2 approaching spheres should be further from each other than they are to the 3rd
so the more to the sides than a perfect equilateral triangle


There were different approaches, with varying degrees of success and failure
But that’s the basic idea behind it
Force the like-polarity into a small space (compress the field)
and it stretches out into a line instead of looping around through space like it normally would.




sm0ky2

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #140 on: February 22, 2018, 10:19:46 PM »
an electrostatic smot seems simple enough
like the ‘snake coil’ or those large steel balls
that roll back and forth between 2 charges.
using 2 cylinders for the side fields
+ and -
with the ball between them
could form an “electrostatic gate”
the charge in the ball would cancel itself out
so I’m not sure how that works.....
could be interesting to experiment with.


I’m waiting on another large disk for the 4-ft Voss,
and my little one is disassembled at the moment..
after the weekend I can maybe put it back together
and try to make an electrostatic gate.
or learn why I can’t......


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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #141 on: February 23, 2018, 02:08:13 AM »
  @sm0ky2
     I sent some information,  in a message through this site
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     It would be great if anyone can sometime post a video of a  Permanent-Magnet-Laser

      The following post,  2hrs ago,  has some very interesting webpage links to this  :
http://overunity.com/17616/monopoles-by-only-using-permanent-magnets/msg517032/#msg517032
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      sm0ky2  typed :
         "Repelling each other, until the center field collapsed into a finite beam"
            So he says beam instead of laser,   but he may mean laser,   since earlier on the monopole thread he described the distance as being several meters

          Also,  wonder if it was it like a temporary pulse, or like a permanent beam/laser     

sm0ky2

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #142 on: February 24, 2018, 07:12:22 AM »
The terms "beam" and "laser" are merely descriptive terms
and probably somewhat misleading


I suppose we would rather call it a linear magnetic field.


And it is permanent, as long as the magnets last in that configuration
which does weaken them over time.


I dug up one video in clanzer's thread, but it has been 'removed by user'
If I find any of the others I'll link to their thread.


There was soooooo many tri-force posts going on at that time.
The poor guy we were buying magnets from thought his product was trending again
So he overproduced and when we stopped experimenting and buying the toys,
it killed his co. (not directly our fault, but we caused it)
With that many of us experimenting at one time, there's too much info to re-read
Hundreds of thousands of posts, and streams of interrelated effects.
what I can tell you, it was towards the end, when the rotating contraptions
we're being magnetically suspended. (low friction magnetic bearings)
I don't remember who discovered it, but many of us were replicating it
and there was a lot of deep discussion about what was actually happening.


The field was clearly confined to a single vector.
I loosely call it a magnetic laser beam because we can point it to a single spot
in a straight line.


Might be easier to just make one, and do a demo video.
I don't really have extra hours, and the search engine on this site is having issues.
I think there's too much content for its' algorithms to function properly.


Newton II

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #143 on: October 09, 2018, 02:19:48 PM »

Is this video already posted here?  (David Jone's perpetual wheel)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muruba8ORGA

His friend Sir Martyn Poliakoff (to whom secret was handed over in a sealed envelope)  felt that he has been cheated!

blueplanet

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #144 on: October 15, 2018, 05:13:39 PM »

The economy is very good now.
Many news channels are looking for fake news reporters.
Its not a chance to be missed.

Is this video already posted here?  (David Jone's perpetual wheel)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muruba8ORGA

His friend Sir Martyn Poliakoff (to whom secret was handed over in a sealed envelope)  felt that he has been cheated!

Newton II

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #145 on: October 16, 2018, 08:42:46 AM »
The economy is very good now.
Many news channels are looking for fake news reporters.
Its not a chance to be missed.

What do you mean?  That video is fake?

To me it looks like a simple DC motor.   Current from the battery kept in a box flows through the spokes of bicycle wheel which act as current carrying conductors and experience force while passing through two coils provided on either side of fixed horizontal bar at the middle portion.  The wheel is provided with split ring at the center.  On a low friction bearing,  a very little force is required to keep the wheel rotating with  perfectly balanced weights once the initial inertia is overcome.  Hence the professors has felt that he has been fooled (cheated).

skywatcher

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #146 on: December 06, 2019, 10:44:57 PM »
So did sm0ky2 win the cheeseburger ?  The end of the story is missing...   :(

sm0ky2

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #147 on: December 07, 2019, 11:26:21 AM »
No cheeseburger for me :(


I pissed off everyone in the house and am forbidden from
arranging magnets all over the floors....


When I get a place to set up an annoying contraption
I will resume my futile quest.
Haven’t given up, just don’t have a place to do that type of thing.