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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #120 on: February 20, 2018, 08:09:12 PM »
And I wasn’t “bragging”.
Truth be told, it is an absolute failure on my part that after
all these years, I still don’t have a way to safely control it.
‘braking’ disrupts the rythm of the actuator, as does adding
frictional resistance.
The point of linking that video was to show you something about
the way the rotor was accelerating, and how that situation is completely
different from your pulse motor and long track.


You seem to think that inefficiency is the path to overunity
and I’m the one who “doesn’t have a clue”
that’s beautiful






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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #120 on: February 20, 2018, 08:09:12 PM »

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #121 on: February 20, 2018, 09:29:07 PM »
I want to talk about why people often fail when looping
a magnetic gate device.


As I showed previously, field compression is the key to assymetry.
However, in a complete loop, symmetrical compression creates
field symmetry again.
When the loop comes back to the beginning, the same as the other
gate transitions, we destroy the effect we had created.


This is where some of the best replicators go wrong.
Up to this point, the information I have posted here
can be used by even a child, to create 90% of a looped gate.


It is the last leg that prevents looping.


This is essential to not go wrong here, most people throw their hands up
at this point and say “oh well, it doesn’t work”


The reason it doesn’t work, is because when we simply loop the last gate
in the same way we transitioned through the rest,
what we are actually doing is creating equal points of low magnetic potential
in each of the gates. This is wrong! We want to avoid doing this.
Otherwise, the ball has basically an equal chance of stopping in each gate,
at their respective point of lowest potential.
Which is the points of strongest magnetic attraction for the ball.


It is important to compress the outer field slightly more at one of the gate-junctions.
because we are forming a complete loop, it doesn’t matter which junction we do this.


 The magnetic situation we are trying to create is one that forms a potential gradient
all the way around the circle.  While maintaining our momentum to renter the first gate.


Howard Johnson shows us how to do this in his lazy-susan Stonehenge video.
For those who have never watched the full version, I will try to find a copy and link
it here, because, try as I may, there are probably things in there which I take for granted
as ‘common sense’, but others may overlook.
HJ was more advanced as a magnetician than myself, and as experiments are done with
the new 3-d printed custom magnets, we are learning more about some of the strange
things he talks about. (See metamagnetism)


By compression of the outer field in one of the gates, we are creating a polarity switch
That is to say, as the induced field in the ball transitions through the last gate, to the first
the n-s relationship changes spontaneously.
The approaching field of the ball further compresses the gate-field, until it ‘snaps’.
This pushes the ball into the first gate, because the response time of the induced field
is greater than the pole flipping event.
and there is an actual magnetic repulsion occurring where attraction was present.
(the attraction is in reverse of the ball direction at this moment, and tries to pull the ball
   back into the last gate)



The effect of proper compression at this point in the gate array, is a noticeable kick to the
ball as it passes the compressed junction.

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #122 on: February 20, 2018, 09:47:38 PM »
these rectangular magnets I’m using for my demos are SmCo
and appear to be obsolete, the company is coating them now
and the replacement magnets are shiny silvery like neos.
(I think this is to protect them and increase longevity)
I’m not sure if they are equivalent, so to avoid certain issues
I am ordering 50 ceramics of similar size, to ensure that they are
the same strength.


They are never ‘exactly’ the same, even when sourced from the
same manufacturer, but getting all of them from the same batch
usually gives enough similarity that the gates can be constructed
in pretty much the same way.


I want to stress adjustment capabilities of your particular design
Because a perfectly manufactured gate array isn’t going to behave
perfectly. We need to be able to adjust the magnets in/out in order
to achieve the precise compression of the fields to make this work.
Due to slight variances from magnet to magnet.


when they arrive, I will make the final few demonstration videos
and show you guys what I am talking about with the switch-gate




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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #122 on: February 20, 2018, 09:47:38 PM »
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #123 on: February 20, 2018, 09:54:52 PM »
I found what may be the HJ video on Tom Bearden’s shoppingcart
But I’m hesitant to throw $$ at it without knowing wether or not
it is the full version of the film.


If anyone knows where to find the full version for free,
Please link it here, I will continue searching.


I don’t know if my contact at Lockheed Martin can get
it from the Arlington archive, but it may be worth a shot
to ask.
He works in their Atlanta office, so maybe a long shot.

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #124 on: February 21, 2018, 05:14:07 PM »
You really have no clue, have you. I never said that my electromagnet was "the same thing" . The video I posted shows a ball accelerating on each loop until the losses equal the "loop gain" and a constant speed is attained. This illustrates my point that a "loop gain" isn't necessarily a disaster. And I find it hilarious that you are bragging about your dangerous failures. "Hire this pilot, he's survived many crashes so he's qualified to take your precious cargo home." Right.

Smoky, this thread perfectly illustrates that you are just another person who cannot DO what he pretends to TEACH other people to do. You have no idea how to make a "Successfully looped SMOT" so why don't you just admit it and move on to something you actually do understand.

@Tinselkoala,

I'll have you know that I was honorably discharged from the United States Navy after earning my wings of gold with a perfect filght safety record. Now, once again let's have your opinion on the serial bifilar negative inductance reading I demonstrated in the video I posted above.

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #124 on: February 21, 2018, 05:14:07 PM »
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Offline blueplanet

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #125 on: February 21, 2018, 07:07:56 PM »
I personally have witnessed a demo of a real magnetic motor before. The theory involves a heat transfer and it is far more complicated. My belief is there is no such thing as overunity without energy harvesting.

Seriously I doubt if the pulse induced "acceleration" has anything to do with energy harvesting. Almost everything starting from a stationary state involves an acceleration, particularly when the acceleration is induced by an external power source.

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #126 on: February 21, 2018, 07:14:16 PM »
Why bother so much about circular looped SMOT at this stage?

Isn't linear propulsion more useful?

When you need to move water uphill, you need an antigravity linear movement.

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #126 on: February 21, 2018, 07:14:16 PM »
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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #127 on: February 21, 2018, 09:56:13 PM »
Why bother so much about circular looped SMOT at this stage?

Isn't linear propulsion more useful?

When you need to move water uphill, you need an antigravity linear movement.


There’s a cheeseburger at stake here!

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #128 on: February 21, 2018, 09:57:57 PM »
Why bother so much about circular looped SMOT at this stage?

Isn't linear propulsion more useful?

When you need to move water uphill, you need an antigravity linear movement.

@blueplanet,

Theoretically a linear propulsion SMOT could loop circularly if it traveled around the Globe.

@TK,

You remember your position on the "Negative Micro Henry" last year. I finally dug up my old series bifilar coil to show you how we measure for bifilar gain. I want to re-hear from you now. Don't try and hide from me because I caught you trying to pull a similar stunt on smOky2, and I'm not letting you get away with it.

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #128 on: February 21, 2018, 09:57:57 PM »
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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #129 on: February 21, 2018, 11:49:55 PM »

Synchro1

Strait up
whats that a dozen or two unanswered calls from you to TinselKoala with mixed in name calling and innuendos...??
including responses he made to Smoky2 which you twisted to imply you were being addressed??


you got something to share ?
share it .


it should not need the eyes of TK to show it has merit  ?


running around with Gasoline trying to restart old flame wars here will not go well.









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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #130 on: February 21, 2018, 11:57:13 PM »
Syncro


Strait up


whats that a dozen or two unanswered calls from you to TinselKoala with mixed in name calling and innuendos...
including responses he made to Smoky2 which you twisted to imply you were being addressed??


you got something to share ?
share it .


it should not need the eyes of TK to show it has merit  ?


running around with Gasoline trying to restart old flame wars here will not go well.

@Ramset,

My inquiries to Tinselkoala  don't concern you. SmOky2 runs this thread not you. SmOky2 believes my topic is germaine to the thread. You want to grant TinselKoala sanctuary in your bell tower of Notre Dame. Just butt out. TK is a chronic cynic and needs to be hassled back for hassling smOky2. Whatever you do, I'm warni9ng you; Do not bother Stephan Hartiberlin with your censorship issue.



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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #130 on: February 21, 2018, 11:57:13 PM »
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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #131 on: February 22, 2018, 12:09:32 AM »
Allen
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@Ramset,[/size]My inquiries to him don't concern you. SmOky2 runs this thread not you. SmOky2 believes my topic[size=78%] is germaine to the thread. You want to grant TinselKoala sanctuary in your bell tower of Notre Dame. Just butt out. TK is a chronic cynic and needs to be hassled back for hassling smOky2. Whatever you do, I'm warni9ng you; Do not bother Stephan Hartiberlin with your censorship issue.[size=78%]


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@ Synchro
I speak with Smoky all the time


he does not need support from you or be associated with your taunting or threatening  flame war methods [which are not allowed here.


you will not get a response  from TinselKoala  , but you will get a response from administration if you threaten or taunt


your claims should stand on merit .


I know of no one here who understands your claims ?


respectfully
Chet K

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #132 on: February 22, 2018, 12:40:59 AM »
Allen
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@Ramset,[/size]My inquiries to him don't concern you. SmOky2 runs this thread not you. SmOky2 believes my topic[size=78%] is germaine to the thread. You want to grant TinselKoala sanctuary in your bell tower of Notre Dame. Just butt out. TK is a chronic cynic and needs to be hassled back for hassling smOky2. Whatever you do, I'm warni9ng you; Do not bother Stephan Hartiberlin with your censorship issue.[size=78%]


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@ Synchro
I speak with Smoky all the time


he does not need support from you or be associated with your taunting or threatening  flame war methods [which are not allowed here.


you will not get a response  from TinselKoala  , but you will get a response from administration if you threaten or taunt


your claims should stand on merit .




I know of no one here who understands your claims ?


respectfully
Chet K

@ramset,

You asked me to show something. I uploaded at least a hundred build videos over the past six months while you uploaded zero. Maybe you're the one who should show something for a change. The other thing is; You violated my copyright by falsely and indiscriminately adding a bold case to my comment without my permission. That amounts to a shameless act of forgery.

You state you don't know of anyone who can understand my claims; Yet you allege you speak with smOky2 all the time. Are you including smOky2 in you group of know nothings?

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #133 on: February 22, 2018, 01:38:13 AM »
Synchro

I don't make videos,nor do I make claims.

and ATM I am quite busy .

people really get the ten foot pole out when you start threatening and trying to scream your way thru a claim


I for one would greatly appreciate understanding what your claim actually means in the real world ??
however
since you always refuse to start a new topic and instead start flame wars in other peoples topics [what you are doing here right now]

maybe it'll take another five to ten years while you fight over Words and terms in Smoky's thread.

I must tell you ,if you are trying to start your flame war all over again...

that would be a really Bad option [as opposed to just explaining your claim in a dedicated thread].

Chet
PS
I will not respond here again in Smoky's SMOT thread ,he is very busy with this topic and honestly does not need to get pulled into your attempts at taunting and threatening  members here.

it never ends well , please do something to change that

start your own topic and make a claim which people understand [without all the threats







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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #134 on: February 22, 2018, 01:59:25 AM »
I don’t “run” anything.
I am not a moderator
I did not create this thread


And for the record, your device is (in my opinion) completely off topic.


The original video was presumed to have been edited
to look like a successful looped SMOT.
and if that is the case, the hoaxer doesn’t know how close he really is.


I am simply accepting a challenge (to possibly win a cheeseburger)
And to prove the point that it is possible and has been done way before me.
and to teach people how to do it as I demonstrate the key magnetic principles
of this and almost all other permanent magnet gates.


Now we are going to employ one of Albert Einstein’s favorite scientific methods.
A thought experiment


Think about gravity as being a diplolar field like magnetism.


But more explicitly, scattered like an unmagnetized ferrous material.
so that the field is incoherent, or degaussed.
and in this form, it attracts to the gravitational field of everything
and in this form, we have gravity and anti-gravity mixed and equally
scattered, such that there is no discernible polarity.


the potential gradient is unidirectional, always attracting.
the way magnets attract iron


now think of magnetism as having a bipolar potential field.
so that through a series of hills and valleys, there is a potential
gradient, both up the hill and down it.
Like if we ‘magnetized’ a gravitational source (mass)
and oriented the polarity.


and we have 2 equations, not just one.
E=mBd(north)
E=mBd(south)


Or for gravity
E=mgh(down)
E=mgh(up)


Now because our gravitational field is incoherent
or unpolarized
“up” and “down” are both towards the source
so there is only E=mgh


But for our magnetism,
we have a potential at a distance from north
and a potential at a distance from south
the direction of force (attract or repel) is dependent
upon the orientation of the dipole.


if we polarize our gravity, we will still only have down.
Because we didn’t polarize the other gravitational source
it is only when two gravitational dipoles interact
that we can have an “up” force, or a gravitational repulsion.
For this reason, “anti-gravity” cannot exist on Earth.


For our magnets:
We have a magnetic potential energy at any distance greater than 0
For attraction


And at any distance less than infinity
For repulsion


Now consider 3 magnets in series, at some distance apart
We have a force in the center magnet in both directions
Our center magnet, being a dipole itself,
has its’ south attracted by a north
and its’ north attracted by a south
(for now we will dismiss the open ends of the outer 2)


To the center magnet, either direction is downhill
and uphill from the perspective of the other.


at a point between them, the net force is 0
but there is still force.
the equivalent of pressure.
but in only two vectors
equal, and opposite


On either side of this point, the force is greater
towards that side.
If free to move, the magnet will decrease in
magnetic potential energy from one pole
while increasing magnetic potential energy from the other


The force increases with a decrease in distance
this process is similar to gravity
in that the energy required to “lift” it back towards
the 0-point, is equal to the energy gained as it fell.


So this magnet, at the 0-point
while it has no net force in either direction
is at the maximum potential energy state
of the system


by decreasing the distance between the center magnet
and both poles simultaneously
we are increasing the pressure
while lowering the potential energy
and we change the vector of the force
by 90-degrees to both poles.


this is exactly the same as simply orienting the poles 90-degrees


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