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Author Topic: Successfully looped SMOT  (Read 32297 times)

Offline blueplanet

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #105 on: February 16, 2018, 02:30:10 PM »
http://www.packratworkshop.com/pics/smot4-a.gif


I am not hopeful with this one.
Energy can be "free" but the mother Nature would not be that generous.

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #105 on: February 16, 2018, 02:30:10 PM »

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #106 on: February 17, 2018, 05:56:56 PM »

I am not hopeful with this one.
Energy can be "free" but the mother Nature would not be that generous.


circles are fun
you can go all the way around them
and end up right where you began....


anyways.....   
the next thing we need to do after gate transition
is introduce an angle.


This can be done in several ways, but the easiest two methods
are to angle the gate
or to angle the track at a point outside the field.


both tasks can introduce additional problems
which we will discuss the ins and outs of.


The latter is simple, change in angular momentum can
introduce frictional losses which quickly become undesirable.
a ball moving in a linear fashion, hits a curved track and can slow down.
therefore we want to limit the angle of curvature, or use gravity to bring
the ball around the angle and into the next subsequent track.


If the angle is too acute, the ball passes through a secondary low-potential
point at the gate-end closest to the curved part of the track.


gravity can be just as detrimental as it is beneficial, because of the inherent
increase in magnetic field strength. most situations will result in a drop in
gravitational potential, leaving the ball lower than the beginning of the track.
With ‘just the right’ incline through the gate, and drop in exit-track, the ball
can be curved around to enter the next gate at a different angle than the first.
baby steps: gate-curve-gate-curve, with the ball going up through the gate and
down around the curve.


In this methodology, the track portion that initiated the change in angle must be
sufficiently long so as to leave the effective field.






The first medthod, where we angle the gates themselves, instead of the track,
contains its own set of problems.
field compression becomes assymetric on one side of the gate.
namely the inside of the curve.
there is a subsequent expansion of the field on the side of the gate outside of
the curve.


This will be the demonstration in the next videos of the series.




Offline ramset

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #107 on: February 17, 2018, 06:05:15 PM »
And I would imagine if you have a true Gain....

every "lap" should add to the speed..


Side note RE recent non ferrous and "other" magnetizing

can you start a separate dedicated thread [some investigations and "theories" are in the wind]
{Big Brain scratching}

or specify where you wish to keep "that" topic [PMH ?

respectfully

Chet

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #107 on: February 17, 2018, 06:05:15 PM »
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #108 on: February 17, 2018, 06:26:17 PM »
@chet


I started that topic in an already existing PMH thread
rather than opening a new one.
“Need Leedskalnin PMH coil winding diagram”
———————————————————————————-






In terms of lap-gain
A gated track generally maintains a consistent velocity.
Entering the linear gate with too much speed, the rotor magnet
will usually slow down accordingly.


However, in a looped-actuator, lap-gain does occur.
Which is invariably catastrophic.

Offline synchro1

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« Reply #109 on: February 19, 2018, 09:58:18 PM »
@chet


I started that topic in an already existing PMH thread
rather than opening a new one.
“Need Leedskalnin PMH coil winding diagram”
———————————————————————————-






In terms of lap-gain
A gated track generally maintains a consistent velocity.
Entering the linear gate with too much speed, the rotor magnet
will usually slow down accordingly.


However, in a looped-actuator, lap-gain does occur.
Which is invariably catastrophic.


@smOky2,

Surely you've seen the "Finsrud Machine"; It looks like Finsrud may have slowed the ball down through a combination of swinging pendulums and horseshoe magnets:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEkK87m-2B8

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #110 on: February 20, 2018, 02:03:55 AM »
I see so much bullshit on these threads that it's hard to keep up with it all. But here I just have to step in:

Lap-gain is NOT "invariably catastrophic". Because certain drag or loss coefficients go up as the square or even higher powers of the speed, while "lap gain" may not. So a circling ball or rotor, under the influence of some kind of "free energy", may only speed up to the point where the various sources of drag now equal the magical input lap-gain, and from that point forward it will circle at a constant speed. Now if this speed is beyond the physical limitations of your apparatus due to sloppy building or something like that, then of course you may experience a catastrophe... but it is clearly not inevitable or invariable. 

I do cringe whenever I see people building rotating magnet structures without securely preventing any possible departures of the magnets from the apparatus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4num28k4EnA

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #111 on: February 20, 2018, 03:28:06 AM »
I see so much bullshit on these threads that it's hard to keep up with it all. But here I just have to step in:

Lap-gain is NOT "invariably catastrophic". Because certain drag or loss coefficients go up as the square or even higher powers of the speed, while "lap gain" may not. So a circling ball or rotor, under the influence of some kind of "free energy", may only speed up to the point where the various sources of drag now equal the magical input lap-gain, and from that point forward it will circle at a constant speed. Now if this speed is beyond the physical limitations of your apparatus due to sloppy building or something like that, then of course you may experience a catastrophe... but it is clearly not inevitable or invariable. 

I do cringe whenever I see people building rotating magnet structures without securely preventing any possible departures of the magnets from the apparatus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4num28k4EnA


Bullshit in Mandarin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9Z0hZuTfNU          废话

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #111 on: February 20, 2018, 03:28:06 AM »
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Offline synchro1

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Re: Negative Inductance
« Reply #112 on: February 20, 2018, 03:50:30 AM »
@Tinselkoala,

Do you feel the negative inductance measurement in this video is an indication of the presence of an increasing magnetic field in the one series bifilar coil of the "Quadfilar Spiral Torus"? We had a heated exchange about this subject last year as you probably remember.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP2xEKH4qdc&list=UUo9ItsUt0n5ayZlb5K_cwaA&index=20

Tinselkoala,

I challenge you to replicate this kind of rising negative inductance measurement effect on your inductance meter or explain what's going on with mine.


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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #113 on: February 20, 2018, 10:35:48 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4num28k4EnA


Interesting


How long did you let it run?
And at what velocity did the ball fly off the track?


Obviously we can have a system where the losses exceed the
acceleration, resulting in no more acceleration.
Thank you for emphasizing our ability to be inefficient.
I think you know that wasn’t what I was talking about.


There’s a reason I still haven’t shared the device from ‘07
and I think I was clear with my statement above.


Partial information was given to 3 trusted replicators
but not the self-actuating mechanism
this is one of the experiments in that series
https://youtu.be/dkjY7qLH3PA
and if his hand could keep up with the increasing actuation speed
these magnets would fly around his room like the ones that nearly
killed me.
Go to my old house in Ks., there’s still a ceramic-ferrite magnet
embedded in the 2x4, I couldn’t remove it with vice grips so I
patched over the hole.


there will come a day, Mr. T
when you realize that I don’t just pull stuff out of my ass


Just because you don’t believe something, does not mean
your knowledge is complete.


It is far too exhausting to keep trying to prove things to you.
You say “no” to everything, without even looking at it.
Does that course of action make you happy?
Are you able to learn anything when you do that?


You are a very smart person, probably one of the few that I would
bow down to in the field of electronic engineering.
But you are hindering your own growth.

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #114 on: February 20, 2018, 11:52:24 AM »
We can tackle additive/exponential acceleration on another journey


Here, we are doing SMOT school


I believe we left off at: gate transition angles?


https://youtu.be/CXSVwvEKfAQ

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #115 on: February 20, 2018, 11:57:14 AM »
The difference in field compression inside vs outside of the turn
controls the transition to the next gate.
The sharper the turn, the greater the difference in compression
if this is not handled appropriately, the result is gate reversion
and the ball will return to the previous gate.

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
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Offline synchro1

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #116 on: February 20, 2018, 04:17:22 PM »
Tinzelcoolala cooked up a pretty cool pulse toy, but where are the magnets?

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #117 on: February 20, 2018, 07:24:23 PM »
Tinzelcoolala cooked up a pretty cool pulse toy, but where are the magnets?


he replaced them with an electromagnet
and pretended it was “the same thing”

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #118 on: February 20, 2018, 07:44:12 PM »
You really have no clue, have you. I never said that my electromagnet was "the same thing" . The video I posted shows a ball accelerating on each loop until the losses equal the "loop gain" and a constant speed is attained. This illustrates my point that a "loop gain" isn't necessarily a disaster. And I find it hilarious that you are bragging about your dangerous failures. "Hire this pilot, he's survived many crashes so he's qualified to take your precious cargo home." Right.

Smoky, this thread perfectly illustrates that you are just another person who cannot DO what he pretends to TEACH other people to do. You have no idea how to make a "Successfully looped SMOT" so why don't you just admit it and move on to something you actually do understand.

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #119 on: February 20, 2018, 07:57:14 PM »
Right......


Steer a discussion about permanent magnet acceleration
By introducing current-limited electrodynamics


I don’t expect any sort of apology or retraction
Hell, in 15+ yrs the best I have  bet gotten was the other day
Where instead of admitting you were wrong


You said. “Well you finally showed me something”
The truth is “you finally listened to something I said”


Now I’m going to go buy a bunch of magnets that ironically
cost more than a cheeseburger
So I can get my cheeseburger


And teach these kids the final lesson on the field compression dynamics
at the end/beginning of a looped gate


This is something that only Howard Johnson could teach us
As Greg Watson failed to do so.


As we see in the angled gate transition, the outer field is expanded
When we bring this full-loop, it creates an undesirable field assymetry
Assymetry can be just as detrimental as field symmetry
Because it is not just assymetry we are after, but a very specific assymetry


This is achieved by placing a gap between the first and last gate
and introducing another magnet near the outer field where they come together
To create the proper field compression.






 

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