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Title: NZ co make 2000% efficient electrolysis
Post by: abbhawk on January 13, 2018, 06:47:08 PM

They search for co that will take it to market
Title: Re: NZ co make 2000% efficient electrolysis
Post by: pomodoro on January 16, 2018, 02:11:23 PM
Its very easy to drastically improve the electrolysis of water for hydrogen production. You add a chemical that is easier to oxidize than water, ( an anodic depolarizer) or you use a reactive metal for the anode. You can then produce heaps more hydrogen for the same power input because the voltage for the electrolysis is much reduced. No oxygen is produced, as something else gets oxidised at the positive anode instead of the water. The drawback is obvious. You need to consume something , such as the magnesium or aluminum anode, or some chemical added to the water, such as sulfur dioxide.
If these guys are using some waste as the depolarizer, then it could be useful, otherwise its another waste of investor's money.

Title: Re: NZ co make 2000% efficient electrolysis
Post by: h20power on January 23, 2018, 10:52:08 AM
I really don't agree with their testing methods as if it is 3000% as they claim then why not run it into a hydrogen fuel cell and once the system is up to pressure have the system run itself since they can't produce any MMW numbers as they claim their system can't have any back pressure for some reason. A simple non sparking pump is all that would be required in a closed system and perhaps some membranes to make sure the hydrogen is pure enough to run the fuel cells is more or less all they will need along with a fuel cell ofcourse. The water produced by the fuel cell can then be returned to the tank for reuse, well it would be in my system anyway.

Now again with 3000% efficiency that shouldn't be a problem at all given that hydrogen fuel cells are between 40-60% efficient. I plan on just giving out some MMW numbers once I am ready to do so as that is what most people are wanting and/or waiting to see. Even with the low ball numbers that my LPM air flow meter will give the numbers will still be impressive I am sure and the water will be drinkable with nothing aided to the water at all. I might even use some type I deionized water just to prove a point.

But like Pomodoro said it seems like they have a consumable product which means it will stop producing hydrogen at those rates at some point in time when it runs out of the consumable product they are using. That is very unlike Meyer's technology which has no consumable product that needs to be added to the water to make it work.

The reason why I chose to solve Meyer's technology is the fact that the technology goes much further than just breaking the bonds of the water molecules as it's a whole new era of scientific discovery just waiting to be explored.
Title: Re: NZ co make 2000% efficient electrolysis
Post by: abbhawk on February 06, 2018, 03:34:00 PM
I dont think you watched all videos from this company before you reply (pomodore) . I do not intend to watch all videos once again to be sure at my point, but as i remember this NZ company do NOT use additives in water. (Im not 100% sure) And if i remember right they can use both tap water, spring water and saltwater. They do add a little electricity, but as long as water is 95 celcius the water splits into H and O where the Oxygen change (cuz of that galvanic process) to electricity and heat, so for a while it can feed itself as it produce Hydrogen. I have a feeling it IS over unity but claim of 3200% efficient is probably wrong. They say output is 3200% bigger than input energy as you make electricity of the hydrogen, but if conversion is 33% efficient then input is just 33% efficient too so 3200% efficient is really 1000% efficient. But if it is made so it feed itself with electricity, then it is just free energy where it use 1/32 of the production to maintain itself.

Well i have seen other examples of water splitting methods that never was allowed to market (remember Xogen from Canada?)...not sure this will either.

Title: Re: NZ co make 2000% efficient electrolysis
Post by: pomodoro on February 09, 2018, 01:19:30 PM
Study some very basic electrochemical concepts, test different electrodes yourself noting overpotentials and separately any corrosion for same current then you can see the lies. Otherwise be destined to believe lies as being true.