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Author Topic: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?  (Read 2229 times)

Offline Newton II

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Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« on: January 02, 2018, 11:04:24 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amH6f9hPgvo

Is it a real overunity magnetic wheel?

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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2018, 11:51:59 AM »
Once the string untwists, this stops moving

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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2018, 12:36:01 PM »
It's real, all posts on this site are real, just pick one project and scale it up to power your house.

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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2018, 12:36:01 PM »
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Offline Newton II

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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2018, 12:36:45 PM »
Once the string untwists, this stops moving

He has clarified several questions.  Even if the string is initially wound,  the wheel has to rotate at high speed in the beginning and then slowdown  since he has used diamagnetic plates on the wheel  which will not experience much dragging force from the bottom magnets.   But as seen in the video,  the wheel is moving in almost constant speed.  Had he used hair drier,  the candles which he has later put on the magnets would have waved in air.

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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2018, 12:54:00 PM »
Yes this will keep spinning forever, Amazing!
So many good projects, i don't understand there are still people on this site inventing new free energy devices when we already got so manny?

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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2018, 12:54:00 PM »
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2018, 02:22:46 PM »
When this test is done with straight wire or untwisted strands
The oscillations from initial placement are much less prolonged.


The graphite is not superconducting at room temperatures
He needs to place them in dry ice for a while and they will warm back up
In their room temperature state, there are losses in the diamagnetic induction.


Offline MagnaProp

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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2018, 04:34:56 AM »
...Is it a real overunity magnetic wheel?
I've seen enough of his videos to know he isn't a scammer and it isn't April 1st. The main thing that intrigues me is the off center movement of the rotor. If it is fixed, I wonder if it would still rotate. If not, that's ok as long as the oscillations keep going.

Thanks to Motionmagnetics and the OP for posting the info.

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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2018, 05:43:23 AM »
This has been done
It stops moving.


Use a single untwisted strand or wire if you
don’t have the patience to properly test this.


If you want it to keep moving you have to
hold the graphite under -230F
though dry ice (-100F) does a really good job


There are also photo magnetic effects from
certain light sources that cause the carbon to
to exhibit perpendicular diamagnetic forces.
This is similar to placing a repelling magnet
 90-degrees to the one below it.


If this is occurring you can prevent the energy
from entering the system by changing the type
of lighting or darken the room. To get a more
accurate experimentation of the effects.


There are indications that a deuterated water treatment
of HOPG results in partial superconductivity within
regions of the sample. But that is not what is shown here.








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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2018, 08:33:30 AM »
I understand your points sm0ky2 but I believe Motionmagnetics is aware of all of that. Sounds like he is saying it works regardless of the known issues with similar designs. He may have the secret sauce of diamagnetic goodies that makes it keep going without freezing.

I'm more inclined to think he just hasn't done enough experiments with this particular design to find out what's causing it to move, or at least making it appear to be self motivated, but I applaud the work as I myself have little time to build, let alone try many variations. Perhaps there is something there beyond the usual?

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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2018, 04:05:46 AM »
That set-up is like a magnetic chaos-pendulum
That type of thing goes for a long time, often spuratic in behavior
but the energy declines over time.


After we got bored with the tri-force thing, there was a whole series
of suspended magnetic devices, we quickly learned to avoid twisted strings
for analysis purposes.


we played with lots of ferro, para, dia, electro, and non magnetics
In the same basic arrangement
repelling fields below (in too many variations to count)
with suspended objects above (in just as many variations)


The only thing perpetual we found was an infinite decrease of chronological energy.

The threads are somewhere here buried in the magnetic section

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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2018, 04:11:03 AM »
if we did this with HOPG/HOPC with a high concentration of SC domains
it may be possible for it to stay in motion forever.
However, it could be argued that the energy involved was put into it
When the arrangement was set-up.

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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2018, 04:11:03 AM »
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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 10:59:10 AM »

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Re: Is this OU magnetic wheel real or fake?
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2018, 03:06:55 PM »
Excellent!
The next step it to use monofilament with carefully adjusted knots.
and meticulous position of stator magnets
and the same with fin placement and angle.
Once perfect symmetry is attained, it (almost) spins forever
from the tiniest of starts.


the colder you make the fins, the longer and longer it spins
down to superconductive temperature.


If the fins are placed parallel to the magnets (flat) it is bidirectional


 

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