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Author Topic: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy  (Read 238123 times)

tomd

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #375 on: August 09, 2018, 08:46:15 AM »
I don't think there's much more to the schematic than this. "Its so simple you will laugh".

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #376 on: August 14, 2018, 02:18:42 PM »
I see a new thread dedicated to the Fernandez manifesto

here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21044-fernandezes-free-energy-transformer.html
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #377 on: August 14, 2018, 02:31:15 PM »
I trying to grow some legs on it. Get a bit more expert opinion. Iron out the wrinkles. Lets see what happens over there.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #378 on: August 16, 2018, 04:02:52 AM »
Somebody else tested it??? I can smell something very, very good. Look like this patent... :o :o

The different in the patent are a coil in short circuit.

« Last Edit: August 16, 2018, 01:09:56 PM by leonelogb »

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #379 on: August 16, 2018, 05:28:10 AM »
I forgot to mention a few things:-

1. The circuit is similar to a single phase electric motor:-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbg_PF6MTwY&t=326s
2. Why rectified AC rather than AC?
3. How to stop the core from saturating?

To my knowledge the circuit hasn't been tested.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #380 on: August 16, 2018, 08:51:14 AM »
For those not familiar with Fernandez's posts then here they are:

https://overunity.com/17535/kapanadze-stepanov-barbosa-leal-and-the-secret-of-free-energy/msg516346/#msg516346

https://overunity.com/17535/kapanadze-stepanov-barbosa-leal-and-the-secret-of-free-energy/msg517669/#msg517669
   

This is my interpretation of Fernandez's Transformer:

First of all, the circuit is similar to a single phase electric motor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbg_PF6MTwY&t=326s

   The two phase shifted current pulses (magnetic pulses) would result in a third magnetic pulse which is out of phase with both. This third magnetic pulse induces voltage and current in the secondary. The magnetic pulse from the secondary (cemf) is therefore out of phase with the two primary coils. This would result in little, if any, cemf reflecting onto the primary - how much I'm not sure. Also I'm not sure why only DC pulses and not AC. How would the core not saturate?http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cosmos/C/Constructive+Interference

This is how I see the circuit. "It's so easy you will laugh".
   
   
   

leonelogb

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #381 on: August 16, 2018, 06:38:26 PM »
Thank you Tomd  :)
I still seeing the same in Tesla patent 382,282 check it...
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it will be observed that at a given point of time the coil G is in its neutral position and is generating little or no current, while the other coil, G', is in a position where it exerts its maximum effect. Assuming coil G to be connected in circuit with coils B B of the converter, and coil G' with coils B' B', it is evident that the poles of the ring A will be determined by coils B' B' alone; but as the armature of the generator revolves, coil G develops more current and coil G' less until G reaches its maximum and G' its neutral position. The obvious result will be to shift the poles of the ring A through one quarter of its periphery. The movement of the coils through the next quarter of a turn, during which coil G' enters a field of opposite polarity and generates a current of opposite direction and increasing strength, while coil G is passing from its maximum to its neutral position, generates a current of decreasing strength and same direction as before, and causes a further shifting of the poles through the second quarter of the ring. The second half-revolution will obviously be a repetition of the same action. By the shifting of the poles of the ring A a power-dynamic inductive effect on the coils C C' is produced. Besides the currents generated in the secondary coils by dynamo-magnetic induction, other currents will be set up in the same coils in consequence of any variations in the intensity of the poles in the ring A.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #382 on: August 17, 2018, 12:12:48 AM »
UNTIL NOW I HAVE NOT OBTAIN GOOD RESULTS, ONLY A VERY, VERY HOT CORE(BOTH OF THEM CORE) :( :( :(
« Last Edit: August 17, 2018, 02:59:59 AM by leonelogb »

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #383 on: August 17, 2018, 01:43:53 AM »
UNTIL NOW I HAVE NOT OBTAIN GOOD RESULTS, ONLY A VERY, VERY HOT CORE(BOTH OF THEM CORE) :( :( :(

That's because it's dc (rectified ac). I was hoping someone could provide a solution to this. If you try it without the bridge you shouldn't get the heating problem. However Fernandez makes a point that you must use rectified AC.
I'm not sure how to figure out the correct size capacitor. Trial and error maybe?

"BOTH OF THEM CORE" - There is only one core. Have a look at his core with the C clamp and soft iron rod.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #384 on: August 17, 2018, 03:13:58 AM »


"BOTH OF THEM CORE" - There is only one core. Have a look at his core with the C clamp and soft iron rod.

I don't used both together, one by one and different capacitor size!

I don't know why in energeticforum.com They Got It and here we CAN NOT :-[ :-[( Barbosa-Leal), I'M sure Somebody here know HOW this working!

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #385 on: August 17, 2018, 03:47:47 AM »
1. Hey Leon, nothing to frown about, those hot cores identifies eddy currents, those currents don't create themselves. Keep going I think you are doing GREAT!!! Very nice to see people fishing for themselves.

2. Regarding rectified AC ..... don't get caught up in the word "must" sharp rising and falling DC pulses can look like rectified AC.

3. You can create the same result (magnetic field) with an Arduino (or any other programmable control), this gives you the added luxury of playing with different timings. In the capacitor circuit the it is the size of the cap that creates the delay. This can also be done with programming.
 
4. When we started, we researched B&L's device exclusively. It was like trying to make the perfect partner, and that is one that is good on the inside and good on the outside.

5. Yes Barb&Leal left some items out of their patent,(i dont think much) but they all do. Like everybody does we also thought it must be super complex, this type of thinking prevented simple workable ideas. One day, while having some beers, we simplified the problem down to two very simple parts. I think the idea came from talking about how water is made. It was stated..
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"It's really only two parts from different sources but when combined they create a liquid" .....<-----outside the box thinking

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"You know...... we only need a magnetic field and a potential because isn't that what happens in a generator? "
 

6.  So, there is a patent application out there that nobody talks about. Its hard to find maybe? Regardless it really helped us and pointed in the right direction. It's not the Holy Grail but find it and review it completely. Look for this: Application# DE200610054568  we poured over it MANY years ago.

I don't post much, time is a factor and I am very busy. I have worked for a global energy giant and now have a much more demanding job. With that said I always find time for the bench because that is where the magic will always happen. These forums have a lot of negative noise and can be counter-productive. You really need to love what your doing and not let it be stressful.

Let me say one more thing, there are thousands of farmers in this world. There are also thousands of amateur farmers in this world. With all these people that know how to grow and produce food why do people in this world still go to bed starving.
I wrote that because nobody should think they are going to be a hero and save the world. That tpye of thinking is scary.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #386 on: August 17, 2018, 03:56:22 AM »
I don't used both together, one by one and different capacitor size!

I don't know why in energeticforum.com They Got It and here we CAN NOT :-[ :-[( Barbosa-Leal), I'M sure Somebody here know HOW this working!

Nobody has B&L because they never stated how they fully create their device. I make no claims that we have a B&L device. Unless I see theirs I can't state ours is the same. Yes we studied that patent and may have some similarities but couldn't you say that about a whole lot of products?

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #387 on: August 17, 2018, 12:51:03 PM »
Fernandez
Thank you for feedback and suggestion, those words encourages me; I’ll still try my best, I don’t believe in everybody, because like you said this world is full of people that are making their life and all around much harder, but I believe in God and some good people around…
OK, let me see if I can get something better this time!!!

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1. Hey Leon, nothing to frown about, those hot cores identifies eddy currents, those currents don't create themselves. Keep going I think you are doing GREAT!!! Very nice to see people fishing for themselves.

2. Regarding rectified AC ..... don't get caught up in the word "must" sharp rising and falling DC pulses can look like rectified AC.

3. You can create the same result (magnetic field) with an Arduino (or any other programmable control), this gives you the added luxury of playing with different timings. In the capacitor circuit the it is the size of the cap that creates the delay. This can also be done with programming.
 
4. When we started, we researched B&L's device exclusively. It was like trying to make the perfect partner, and that is one that is good on the inside and good on the outside.

5. Yes Barb&Leal left some items out of their patent,(i dont think much) but they all do. Like everybody does we also thought it must be super complex, this type of thinking prevented simple workable ideas. One day, while having some beers, we simplified the problem down to two very simple parts. I think the idea came from talking about how water is made. It was stated..

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"It's really only two parts from different sources but when combined they create a liquid" .....<-----outside the box thinking



Someone then said

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"You know...... we only need a magnetic field and a potential because isn't that what happens in a generator? "


 

6.  So, there is a patent application out there that nobody talks about. Its hard to find maybe? Regardless it really helped us and pointed in the right direction. It's not the Holy Grail but find it and review it completely. Look for this: Application# DE200610054568  we poured over it MANY years ago.

I don't post much, time is a factor and I am very busy. I have worked for a global energy giant and now have a much more demanding job. With that said I always find time for the bench because that is where the magic will always happen. These forums have a lot of negative noise and can be counter-productive. You really need to love what your doing and not let it be stressful.

Let me say one more thing, there are thousands of farmers in this world. There are also thousands of amateur farmers in this world. With all these people that know how to grow and produce food why do people in this world still go to bed starving.
I wrote that because nobody should think they are going to be a hero and save the world. That tpye of thinking is scary.


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #388 on: August 17, 2018, 05:55:02 PM »
Do you think its an accident they presented device in 2012??? Huh? Timer is ticking....tic...tac...tic...tac...we should be doing now great change

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #389 on: August 17, 2018, 06:55:44 PM »
Hey Forest

Do you have some input that enlightens a little more?
Yourself said "we should be doing now great change"  ::)