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Author Topic: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy  (Read 236086 times)

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #392 on: August 18, 2018, 01:40:57 PM »
If you are going to look at Stubblefield, I suggest you also look at Louis Rota.


Nathan Stubblefield buried a component with 2 different metals in parallel, this created an energy that was aetheric in nature and lit an arc lamp.


Louis Rota buried a component with multiple different metals in parallel, this created an energy that was aetheric in nature and lit an arc lamp.


BTW, Moray built a device with 2 different metals in parallel and connected it to ground and Aerials.


BTW, Keely use 3 metals in parallel in his wires...


BTW, Tesla made a generator called a Tri Metal generator that specifically used Aluminium and Iron and Copper.


BTW, earth grounds and Aerial Antennas collect a widebandwidth of frequencies.


BTW, arc lamps and spark gaps are very noisy, they create a wide range of energies.


BTW, lots of metal was specifically used in Morary's case and in Louis Rota's because it was understood to give more energy to the circuit.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #393 on: August 19, 2018, 09:47:32 AM »
"Let me say one more thing, there are thousands of farmers in this world. There are also thousands of amateur farmers in this world. With all these people that know how to grow and produce food why do people in this world still go to bed starving.
I wrote that because nobody should think they are going to be a hero and save the world. That type of thinking is scary."

One person can't save the world. However many people may do just that. The more people that are aware of this and are able to replicate it the more difficult it is to suppress. This is the only way we will progress beyond the current energy paradigm. It has to come from bottom up, because it's certainly not coming from top down.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #394 on: August 19, 2018, 06:10:43 PM »
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"Let me say one more thing, there are thousands of farmers in this world. There are also thousands of amateur farmers in this world. With all these people that know how to grow and produce food why do people in this world still go to bed starving.
I wrote that because nobody should think they are going to be a hero and save the world. That type of thinking is scary."

There are hundreds of millions of farmers in the world and they could grow enough food so that nobody would ever go to bed starving. The farmers make the choice not to care, they make the choice to pretend there is nothing they can do when they have always had the power to do something both individually and collectively. They could all be hero's however they make the choice not to be.

You are wrong... an idea or concept always starts with the individual then propagates outwards invoking change in others. We stand on the shoulders of giants who were not afraid, they did not take no for an answer and nothing was impossible. These individuals changed the world, they were the impetus which invoked change which has improved our lives.

Do you know what a hero is?, it's just an ordinary person who naturally does the right thing without even questioning it. They just do it and every single one of us has that capacity within us somewhere. Not to be confused with cowards who say it cannot be done or sell their soul for profit at the drop of a hat or always expect more in return.

Every individual could be a hero in their own way in my opinion. The question you need to ask yourself is why couldn't you be, what's holding you back?. You own that shit, all the baggage you carry holding you back... not us.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #395 on: August 20, 2018, 02:05:38 AM »
One person can't save the world. However many people may do just that. The more people that are aware of this and are able to replicate it the more difficult it is to suppress. This is the only way we will progress beyond the current energy paradigm. It has to come from bottom up, because it's certainly not coming from top down.

Onepower is right, we can all be heroes, but we are always going to need help from someone, nobody is so perfect that he does not need help from another, even Nikolas Tesla; He got intellectual and economic help from others, to achieve his goals.

okay
First, we need to understand well what we are going to build before going back to the work table ...
If we want to pull energy from the ground you have to attract it, (these are words of a disappeared genius) ok, Tesla was working with a transformer which he call the Disruptive Discharge, Tesla himself expresses how it was construction , this was formed in the secondary by two coil in series one in cw and the other in ccw the center of this was attract to pull from ground therefore it was connected to ground .... OK,  I'll need little help in this part ...
The other thing is that he discovered a strange behavior when he put the circuit of the secondary in short circuit with a copper bar, I think something happened with the eddy currents, capacitance and high self inductance of the secondary that it made this current (eddy) run back and forward and if we take one point of it join and put it to earth this will do attract to those electrons that the earth contains in an infinite way, Well this is the second part to test and then we will see.

peace!!!

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #396 on: August 20, 2018, 08:41:05 AM »
I have extracted the essence of patent application DE102006054568A1. As you can see this is all about negating the cemf from secondary to primary. How it actually does this I am not 100% sure. However it seems the following is important:
a) There are two primary coils and one secondary coil.
b) The polarity of magnetic field does not change
c) Capacitor(s) connect with coil to form a phase shift and/or resonant circuit.
d) The phase shift is such that one coil is at its max while the other coil is at its min.


1. At present, electric power is generated by generators that convert mechanical energy into electrical energy. It is characteristic of this
    type of induction that the magnetic field of the induced current brakes the rotation of the rotor, resulting in that the generator more
    mechanical energy must be supplied, the more current is generated.

2. The object of the invention is to produce electrical energy, the magnetic field of the induction coil only very small, ideally has no effect
     on the energy supplied to the generator more.

3. the polarity of the magnetic field is not changed

4. capacitors can be connected with coils to the phase shift of current and voltage to change or to form resonant circuits.

5. The apparatus for carrying out the above method according to the invention characterized by at least two coils which generate
    magnetic fields, wherein the supplied into this coil voltage such effect that a coil just has a maximum magnetic field while the other
    coil has a minimal or no magnetic field , These coils are matched by its winding direction, the polarity and the time course of the
    injected voltage that their magnetic fields that are coupled magnetically with at least one other coil, that produce a rectified voltage, in
    this further coil wherein the magnetic field of said further coil the they causing magnetic fields hardly, no longer opposes ideally.
 
6. The method of the invention allows an induction of electric voltages, whereby the generated energy of the applied energy is no longer
    or hardly counteracts this and consumed thereby.

7. According to Lenz's law an induction voltage is always directed their cause counter, which results in the inventive generator, that the
    magnetic field generated from the secondary coil at the rise of the magnetic field generated by the first primary coil pair itself
    generates a magnetic field whose polarity to the magnetic field of said first primary coil pair is directed against. However, since the
    magnetic field of the second primary coil pair is being weak due to the supply voltage, the magnetic field of the secondary coil is
    rectified to the magnetic field of the second primary coil pair and therefore forms a common magnetic field with this what to leads that
    the magnetic field of the first primary coil pair is not or hardly through the magnetic field secondary coil is attenuated.



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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #397 on: August 20, 2018, 12:17:53 PM »
I have extracted the essence of patent application DE102006054568A1. As you can see this is all about negating the cemf from secondary to primary. How it actually does this I am not 100% sure. However it seems the following is important:
a) There are two primary coils and one secondary coil.
b) The polarity of magnetic field does not change
c) Capacitor(s) connect with coil to form a phase shift and/or resonant circuit.
d) The phase shift is such that one coil is at its max while the other coil is at its min.


1. At present, electric power is generated by generators that convert mechanical energy into electrical energy. It is characteristic of this
    type of induction that the magnetic field of the induced current brakes the rotation of the rotor, resulting in that the generator more
    mechanical energy must be supplied, the more current is generated.

2. The object of the invention is to produce electrical energy, the magnetic field of the induction coil only very small, ideally has no effect
     on the energy supplied to the generator more.

3. the polarity of the magnetic field is not changed

4. capacitors can be connected with coils to the phase shift of current and voltage to change or to form resonant circuits.

5. The apparatus for carrying out the above method according to the invention characterized by at least two coils which generate
    magnetic fields, wherein the supplied into this coil voltage such effect that a coil just has a maximum magnetic field while the other
    coil has a minimal or no magnetic field , These coils are matched by its winding direction, the polarity and the time course of the
    injected voltage that their magnetic fields that are coupled magnetically with at least one other coil, that produce a rectified voltage, in
    this further coil wherein the magnetic field of said further coil the they causing magnetic fields hardly, no longer opposes ideally.
 
6. The method of the invention allows an induction of electric voltages, whereby the generated energy of the applied energy is no longer
    or hardly counteracts this and consumed thereby.

7. According to Lenz's law an induction voltage is always directed their cause counter, which results in the inventive generator, that the
    magnetic field generated from the secondary coil at the rise of the magnetic field generated by the first primary coil pair itself
    generates a magnetic field whose polarity to the magnetic field of said first primary coil pair is directed against. However, since the
    magnetic field of the second primary coil pair is being weak due to the supply voltage, the magnetic field of the secondary coil is
    rectified to the magnetic field of the second primary coil pair and therefore forms a common magnetic field with this what to leads that
    the magnetic field of the first primary coil pair is not or hardly through the magnetic field secondary coil is attenuated.

similar patent

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2013104041A1/en

granted US patent for a self runner

US3247407A


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #398 on: August 23, 2018, 12:30:00 PM »
A few things:
1. As we have a closed core, no matter where the secondary coil is positioned it will be between the two primary coils.
2. The current in one primary has a 90 degree phase difference with the other. This will result in the magnetic filux of one coil strengthening
    while at the same time the flux in the other coil is weakening.
3. The primaries are positioned with their poles NS or SN.

For example lets say the primaries have adjacent poles NS and the north pole coil is strengthening while the south pole coil is weakening. By lenz law the secondary will oppose the stronger north pole coil with its own north pole. At the same time it will hold back the weaker south pole coil with a north pole. Obviously an electromagnet with two north poles is not possible. So what is really happening here?

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #399 on: August 25, 2018, 12:16:21 PM »
I've had to change my stance on this as primaries positioned with opposite poles adjacent is a no goer. I now believe the primaries are positioned such that like poles are adjacent and the secondary in between.
How is cemf defeated?
Lets say the primaries have north poles facing each other with the secondary in between.
The magnetic flux of one of the primaries is gaining in strength this causes a north pole on the secondary in opposition to the primary. However this is balanced by the other primary where the magnetic flux is declining. This causes a south pole on the secondary and the magnetic flux would be aiding the first primary.

Bear in mind that magnetic flux induces voltage and the primaries are in parallel. So the net effect is that cemf (voltage) is not reflected back on the primary.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #400 on: August 29, 2018, 01:05:32 PM »
I want to greet all the members of the forum
I read everything that was written from the beginning in this subject.
The coils configuration is identical to the High-power Motionless Generator of Clemente Figuera.
Now you mentally mitigate the 7 lines of coils x 3 coils used to increase power to 1 line x 3 coils to understand how it works.

PJK 3-24 quote:
The Figuera Device looks like a complicated transformer, but in fact, it isn’t. Instead, it is two sets of seven opposing electromagnets with an output coil positioned between each opposing pair of electromagnets. The physical position of the electromagnets and output coils is important as they are positioned very close to each other and there are induced magnetic fields between adjacent electromagnets and between the output coils due
to their close proximity.

The information given in the Figuera patent states that the electromagnets will be referred to in the patent by the letters “N” and “S” and it is now thought that those two letters are deliberately misleading as people tend to think of those letters referring to “North magnetic pole” and “South magnetic pole” while in reality, the electromagnets almost certainly oppose each other, that is, with North poles facing each other or possibly, with South poles facing each other.

This arrangement creates a magnetic Bloch wall (or magnetically null point) in the centre of the yellow output coils and the position of that magnetic balance point is very easily moved if the power supply to the two sets of electromagnets is altered slightly and any movement of that magnetic balance point creates a substantial electrical output due to the alteration of the magnetic lines cutting the turns of wire in the yellow output coils.
end PJK quote.

Quote from Figuera.pdf
THIS IS A CLEVER DESIGN WHICH AVOIDS THE LENZ’S LAW EFFECT AND BEING A SPLIT TRANSFORMER. THERE IS ALWAYS CURRENT FLOWING THROUGH EVERY PRIMARY ELECTROMAGNET AND THAT CURRENT NEVER CHANGES DIRECTION, NOR IS IT EVER INTERRUPTED, AND SO, THERE IS NEVER ANY BACK-EMF MAGNETIC FIELD TO DEAL WITH.

THE PATENT MARKS ONE SET OF ELECTROMAGNETS AS “S” AND THE OTHER SET AS “N” BUT
THOSE REFERENCE LETTERS ARE MISLEADING AND DO NOT, REPEAT NOT, REFER TO MAGNETIC
POLES. THE MAGNETIC POLES GENERATED WILL HAVE EITHER TWO NORTH POLES FACING EACH
OTHER OR TWO SOUTH POLES FACING EACH OTHER. THE CHANGE IN CURRENT STRENGTH
CAUSES A VARYING MAGNETIC FIELD IN THE CORE OF THE SECONDARY (YELLOW)
ELECTROMAGNETS, AND THAT PRODUCES THE ELECTRICAL OUTPUT FROM THE GENERATOR. THAT
OUTPUT WAS 500 VOLTS FOR FIGUERA’S PROTOTYPE.
end Quote from Figuera.pdf

leonelogb "« Reply #382 on: August 17, 2018, 12:12:48 AM »
UNTIL NOW I HAVE NOT OBTAIN GOOD RESULTS, ONLY A VERY, VERY HOT CORE(BOTH OF THEM CORE)"
The diagram Lenz-Free.png is correct but incomplete (Reply 375, 380). Both coils must have a capacitor in series to separate the continuous component. Then the temperature will drop. The capacitors values can be chosen by simultaneously visualizing the waveforms on the oscilloscope to obtain the desired phase shift.


« Last Edit: August 30, 2018, 11:26:27 AM by daniel73 »

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #401 on: November 23, 2018, 11:44:09 PM »
daniel73 and Tomd check it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNAVIn6YYss

Something else daniel73??

I want to greet all the members of the forum
I read everything that was written from the beginning in this subject.
The coils configuration is identical to the High-power Motionless Generator of Clemente Figuera.
Now you mentally mitigate the 7 lines of coils x 3 coils used to increase power to 1 line x 3 coils to understand how it works.

PJK 3-24 quote:
The Figuera Device looks like a complicated transformer, but in fact, it isn’t. Instead, it is two sets of seven opposing electromagnets with an output coil positioned between each opposing pair of electromagnets. The physical position of the electromagnets and output coils is important as they are positioned very close to each other and there are induced magnetic fields between adjacent electromagnets and between the output coils due
to their close proximity.

The information given in the Figuera patent states that the electromagnets will be referred to in the patent by the letters “N” and “S” and it is now thought that those two letters are deliberately misleading as people tend to think of those letters referring to “North magnetic pole” and “South magnetic pole” while in reality, the electromagnets almost certainly oppose each other, that is, with North poles facing each other or possibly, with South poles facing each other.

This arrangement creates a magnetic Bloch wall (or magnetically null point) in the centre of the yellow output coils and the position of that magnetic balance point is very easily moved if the power supply to the two sets of electromagnets is altered slightly and any movement of that magnetic balance point creates a substantial electrical output due to the alteration of the magnetic lines cutting the turns of wire in the yellow output coils.
end PJK quote.

Quote from Figuera.pdf
THIS IS A CLEVER DESIGN WHICH AVOIDS THE LENZ’S LAW EFFECT AND BEING A SPLIT TRANSFORMER. THERE IS ALWAYS CURRENT FLOWING THROUGH EVERY PRIMARY ELECTROMAGNET AND THAT CURRENT NEVER CHANGES DIRECTION, NOR IS IT EVER INTERRUPTED, AND SO, THERE IS NEVER ANY BACK-EMF MAGNETIC FIELD TO DEAL WITH.

THE PATENT MARKS ONE SET OF ELECTROMAGNETS AS “S” AND THE OTHER SET AS “N” BUT
THOSE REFERENCE LETTERS ARE MISLEADING AND DO NOT, REPEAT NOT, REFER TO MAGNETIC
POLES. THE MAGNETIC POLES GENERATED WILL HAVE EITHER TWO NORTH POLES FACING EACH
OTHER OR TWO SOUTH POLES FACING EACH OTHER. THE CHANGE IN CURRENT STRENGTH
CAUSES A VARYING MAGNETIC FIELD IN THE CORE OF THE SECONDARY (YELLOW)
ELECTROMAGNETS, AND THAT PRODUCES THE ELECTRICAL OUTPUT FROM THE GENERATOR. THAT
OUTPUT WAS 500 VOLTS FOR FIGUERA’S PROTOTYPE.
end Quote from Figuera.pdf

leonelogb "« Reply #382 on: August 17, 2018, 12:12:48 AM »
UNTIL NOW I HAVE NOT OBTAIN GOOD RESULTS, ONLY A VERY, VERY HOT CORE(BOTH OF THEM CORE)"
The diagram Lenz-Free.png is correct but incomplete (Reply 375, 380). Both coils must have a capacitor in series to separate the continuous component. Then the temperature will drop. The capacitors values can be chosen by simultaneously visualizing the waveforms on the oscilloscope to obtain the desired phase shift.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #402 on: November 24, 2018, 06:52:08 PM »
Lenz, is the only way to take an output across a secondary. By moving a pole across an iron core due to the phase shift, doesn't mean that secondary coil is not presenting cemf.. thankfully.



 
 

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #403 on: May 12, 2019, 10:31:40 AM »
I first wanna stress there is a simpler and more poweful way to extract energy from a magnetic field, i am referring to Don Smith and similar systems. That said, i see here and at energetic forum, it's almost unanimously accepted Figuera's device uses same poles in opposition, moving the bloch wall back n forth. It probably is so, but i ask..

How do you suppose backemf is canceled if at every point in time field on one side is stronger than on the other, the ONLY point at which backemf can be fully canceled out is when two opossing fields are the same.

I see also user hanon few years ago thought Figuera used opposite poles and nicely explained his reasoning why backemf would be canceled in this way. Pic below.

At energetic forum one guy said he replicated the device with same poles facing and got 3x energy gain, so if he tells the truth, same poles facing config works. But from the reasoning in the hanon's pic it should also work with opposite poles, makes even more sense that backemf is canceled that way.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #404 on: May 22, 2019, 11:08:11 AM »
nix85
I agree about it. There is even Figuera patent statement about coils "properly placed". While it can be anything I think it's bout the balance between N and S poles strength. Thankfully we have now strong neodymium magnets to test ideas ;-)