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Author Topic: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy  (Read 59796 times)

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #105 on: January 11, 2018, 05:00:25 PM »
On the left-hand side there is a 400Hz sine wave drawn by the editor software. The wave on the right-hand side shows the Kapanadze shut down noise. As it looks, it is also 400Hz.

Now someone can explain to me how the device can make a sound at a frequency of 400Hz when it is disconnected from the 50Hz inverter? My guess: The 50Hz frequency is doubled to 100Hz, then (after disconnect) to 200Hz then to 400Hz. Then the resonant frequency doubler can't resonate any higher, so it stays at 400Hz. If someone has a better explanation, I'm all ears.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #106 on: January 11, 2018, 05:06:49 PM »
a few moments ago I  destroy an 220v / 12v1A adapter, but I can not figure out how I did it. The connection between the spark and circuit it was isolated by the optocoupler and toroid transformer (see diagram below). The oscillating circuit and the mosfet are not damaging. WHAT HAPPENED?
A small explosion occurred in the adapter that fed the oscillating cycle when I was playing with the frequency of the oscillator. I think it was a fraction of a second I see yellow flash that does not know where it came from. (from the bulb?). Inside of the adapter I found pieces of an integrated circuit.

Hi kpannic. I have had a similar thing happen where a power adapter for a little portable
signal generator I have has burned up twice now when experimenting with circuits that produce
high voltage spikes. In my case the two power adapters which burned up were the switching regulator
type. I would guess that what is happening is the high voltage spikes are possibly coupled into the switching
regulator circuitry by induction, and this causes the control circuitry to go wonky and can cause something in
the regulator circuitry to burn out. Testing with high voltage AC or pulsing setups can always potentially cause
surrounding circuitry to blow, so it is always risky!

All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #107 on: January 11, 2018, 05:33:43 PM »
On the left-hand side there is a 400Hz sine wave drawn by the editor software. The wave on the right-hand side shows the Kapanadze shut down noise. As it looks, it is also 400Hz.

Now someone can explain to me how the device can make a sound at a frequency of 400Hz when it is disconnected from the 50Hz inverter? My guess: The 50Hz frequency is doubled to 100Hz, then (after disconnect) to 200Hz then to 400Hz. Then the resonant frequency doubler can't resonate any higher, so it stays at 400Hz. If someone has a better explanation, I'm all ears.

Hi Zeitmaschine. Just to confirm, are you talking about the 2004 Kapanadze demo video where
he unplugs his device from the inverter output and the lights continue to glow for about
a second or so, and a noise is heard as the lights go dim?

All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #107 on: January 11, 2018, 05:33:43 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #108 on: January 11, 2018, 06:15:40 PM »
@Void, yes.

Still the main question is, how to construct the high voltage anode in detail, and do we need a spark gap or not, and should the second wire of the high voltage transformer be connected directly to ground or could we do something else with it?

To have a spark gap will not hurt anything, because we can bridge it quickly. The problem is the anode. Barbosa and Leal use a copper pipe as secondary coil. What can we do with a copper pipe? First, we can make a closed loop with it, otherwise a current can not flow in that circuit. Second, we can put it through an iron core which generates a magnetic field (not much turns possible though). Third, we can connect it to ground. Fourth, we can wrap something around it. Fifth we can put something in it. The latter is only relevant if we do not use a solid wire (like seen in an other Barbosa-Leal demonstration) instead of a pipe.

What if there were an anode (positive against ground) and in addition a cathode (negative against ground), so ground is not the cathode but something between? The patent drawings do not show this in detail, maybe it is difficult to draw - experienced that myself while drawing the illustration on reply #90.


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #109 on: January 11, 2018, 06:32:04 PM »
Here is a FFT audio spectrum analysis of the shut down noise from the Kapanadze 2004 full demo video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r99g4mjEvTE

This occurs at about 24:32 to 24:33 in this video.
Kapanadze unplugs his device from the output of his inverter and the lights take about a second
or so before they go out. A prominent noise can be heard as the lights are going dim.

I used some decent quality audio FFT analysis software which I have to do this FTT analysis of the audio
when Kapanadze's device is shutting down. See the attached screen shot to see what the
audio frequency spectrum of that shut down noise looks like. The FFT software plugin I used has
a cursor feature that allows you to determine the exact frequency of any peaks in the audio frequency spectrum.
I used this feature to determine the exact frequency of some of the more prominent peaks
in the audio frequency spectrum, and I indicated these frequencies on the attached screen shot.

Prominent peaks are at about 169Hz, 236 Hz, 366Hz, 468 HZ, and 669HZ, give or take a few Hz.

It is also interesting that there are some harmonic looking peaks at frequencies above
6 kHZ which appear to be growing in amplitude as the frequency increases, but the audio from the video
is compressed and the audio compression algorithm used in the Youtube video cuts off the audio at 12 kHz,
so we can't see what is above 12 kHz. These peaks are at about: 6.84 kHz, 7.82 kHz, 9.02 kHz, 10.1 kHz, 11.4 kHz.

It doesn't look like there is any obvious harmonic relationship to 50Hz that I can notice.


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #109 on: January 11, 2018, 06:32:04 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #110 on: January 11, 2018, 06:51:03 PM »
you put 220V 0,5A into and get 220V 23A at output
that's how it works
very simple
you already know the answer , Guntis told you

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #111 on: January 11, 2018, 07:19:04 PM »
In comparison, a similar audio analysis I did last year of some noise from the Kapanadze
Aquarium 1 video showed four prominent peaks right at 200 Hz, 300 Hz, 400 Hz, 500 Hz,
and the peaks at 600 Hz and 700 Hz are a bit lower but still prominent, and the harmonic
peaks continue at regular 100 Hz intervals from there and climb in amplitude as the frequency increases
up to about 1.5 kHz. A waveform shape that has all harmonics occurring regularly at both the odd and even
harmonic frequencies is a sawtooth waveform. So the indication from that audio analysis is the Aquarium 1 Kapanadze
device was possibly operating at 200 Hz, and this waveform (which was making the noise which I analyzed) may possibly
look somewhat similar in shape to a sawtooth waveform. This is of course assuming that the actual electric waveform
in the Kapanadze device causing the buzzing noise that is heard is at all similar to the audio noise it was generating.
That is not at all for certain however.


P.S. I have also attached a screen shot of the time domain waveform of the buzzing noise which I did
the FFT audio analysis on. You can see that the audio waveform at least is somewhat of a sawtooth
shape, but that is no guarantee that the actual electrical waveform in the device causing the noise
looks really similar, but it may look similar.
All the best...


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #111 on: January 11, 2018, 07:19:04 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #112 on: January 11, 2018, 10:37:33 PM »
Here is an audio FFT analysis of some buzzing noise from around 11:48 in the Kapanadze green box demo video.
(I used the video that has the English translation as captions).
The buzzing noise FFT pattern is different again, so go figure. :)

There are four harmonic peaks between around 400 Hz to 700 Hz which are
pretty close to being right on hundred Hz divider lines, but some are off a little bit.
You don't have the big peak at 200 Hz in this buzzing noise from the green box demo video.
So, it looks like trying to read anything definite into this audio analysis is not so clear cut.
The buzzing noise is not always the same, it seems.

This FFT sample also has the harmonic peaks occurring roughly about every kHz above 6 kHz,
so that is interesting.

It is also interesting that in all three FFT audio analysis tests I did of buzzing noise from three different
Kapanadze devices, that 50 Hz or 100 Hz never show up as prominent frequencies. Make of that what you will... ;D

All the best...


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #113 on: January 12, 2018, 02:50:44 AM »
We are sure all the videos are running at the correct speed? Recorded on analog video tape then digitized then uploaded to YT, converted there to mp4, then downloaded, maybe re-uploaded between? The 2004 video metadata reads in one version 24 Frames/Sec in an other version 25 Frames/Sec.

BTW, the noise in the green box video is most likely generated by the fan in front of the heat sinks.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #113 on: January 12, 2018, 02:50:44 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #114 on: January 12, 2018, 04:17:38 AM »
Hi Zeitmaschine. I am not certain of anything, but the audio didn't sound noticeably off.
Any compression and processing done by Youtube on a video can degrade the audio
fidelity quality, but it shouldn't alter audio frequencies unless something is really
not working right.

Of course the fan in the green box video was making some noise, but I have never
heard that kind of fan making a buzzing noise like that. There was of course a mixture of sounds there,
but that is why I used the FFT analysis as it gives you a good view of the entire frequency content.

Anyway, I just did the audio analysis to see if it shows anything interesting when comparing between
a few different Kapanadze devices. I am not attempting to draw any definite conclusions from it. Also,
as I mentioned, whatever audio buzzing noises the devices make would not necessarily correspond
exactly or even closely to the electrical waveforms and corresponding frequencies used in the devices,
although there may be some real correlation to some extent. I do think it is interesting that the buzzing
from the three different devices does not show any prominent audio frequency content at 50 Hz and
100 Hz,  but as I said previously, make of that what you will. ;D It would probably be an interesting comparison
to do an FFT analysis on a 50Hz or 60 Hz power transformer powered from the grid that is buzzing to see what
the audio frequency content is for comparison.


All the best...




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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #115 on: January 12, 2018, 05:19:51 AM »
Ok, to see how the buzzing in Kapanadze's devices compare to a buzzing transformer
that is connected to the grid, I used the following Youtube video to take my audio sample:
"Extreme Transformer Hum (super loud microwave transformer)"
https://youtu.be/Zj0j1HmKmZw?t=57
I took my audio sample at about 0:57 in the above video.

Something that just occurred to me is that 50 Hz audio will probably not
be picked up so well on cheaper microphones, so if the video camera used to
record a video doesn't have a very high quality mic it might not pick up 50 Hz
very well. So that might possibly explain why we don't see anything happening
at 50 Hz in the buzzing in the Kapanadze videos I analyzed audio on.

Likewise, in the MOT transformer buzzing video I used that is linked above, I don't
see a frequency peak at 50 Hz, but it does show a frequency peak at 100 Hz, so
that is something to consider. It is also interesting that the MOT transformer buzzing
contains harmonics at pretty much every hundred hertz harmonic point up to just above
2 kHz, so it is not so different from the buzzing seen for the three Kapanadze devices,
but there are maybe some differences. The Kapanadze ones didn't have any noticeable
peak right at 100 Hz, but otherwise I guess maybe not a huge difference.

P.S. I guess the most interesting one is from the 2004 demo when the inverter is unplugged.
Maybe with the inverter unplugged the frequency starts to drift off as it is dying out, so maybe
that is why it is quite different. Just taking a guess though. No way to say for sure. :)


All the best...


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #115 on: January 12, 2018, 05:19:51 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #116 on: January 12, 2018, 10:11:11 AM »
It is also interesting that the MOT transformer buzzing
contains harmonics at pretty much every hundred hertz harmonic point up to just above
2 kHz, so it is not so different from the buzzing seen for the three Kapanadze devices,
but there are maybe some differences. The Kapanadze ones didn't have any noticeable
peak right at 100 Hz, but otherwise I guess maybe not a huge difference.


All the best...

I have a DIY built spot welder made from a modified MOT and the TK 2004 hum sound to my ear is identical. The loudest hum is when the MOT is energised but not loaded. In the 2004 video, the hum continues after the load is switched on from the tin can and stops when the inverter is unplugged from the mains. This suggests that there may have been a DIY transformer in the box under the work bench (the same box as used in the green box demo) that had very loose laminations.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #117 on: January 12, 2018, 10:19:19 AM »
I have a DIY built spot welder made from a modified MOT and the TK 2004 hum sound to my ear is identical. The loudest hum is when the MOT is energized but not loaded. My guess is that the TK hum stopped or reduced considerably when the load was switched in. Maybe we need to be looking at the possibility that TK had a very heavy current TRAFO winding in the green box.
What ?  every 100 hz ? how do you work that one out ? the fundamental  is 50 hz so harmonics are multi pals of that frequency it wold be 50 100 150 200 250 ect the hum is the lamination's vibrating or and any other junk that's lose.

Allen

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #118 on: January 12, 2018, 10:27:03 AM »
What ?  every 100 hz ? how do you work that one out ? the fundamental  is 50 hz so harmonics are multi pals of that frequency it wold be 50 100 150 200 250 ect the hum is the lamination's vibrating or and any other junk that's lose.

Allen

See my amended post above.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #119 on: January 12, 2018, 12:02:02 PM »
The presence of the spark generates many harmonics and it is difficult what is the actual frequency of work

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