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Author Topic: The secret to Overunity  (Read 31902 times)

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #195 on: January 13, 2018, 04:08:38 PM »
Thank you for your reply, I beg to consider your true direction if your not 'The Secret Of Overunity'  ;D ;D
and before you misquote me how are others quotes on the internet mine ? and how do you know if they are failures or not, you don't really know, control and conjecture is just a trip down the rabbit hole.

I will say good day to you and not bother you again.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #195 on: January 13, 2018, 04:08:38 PM »

Offline mikemongo

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #196 on: January 13, 2018, 11:59:04 PM »
as to what, the reactive cross section of the system....  as to why, to be introduced to the inner workings of the mechanism behind opposition to change....
Delay the flow of output current until it can aid the input current is how I am seeing this.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #197 on: January 14, 2018, 11:13:11 PM »
recycling of energy.
put a current into a magnetic coil.
create resonance in a parallel coil.
capture the back emf of the magnetic coil into a capacitor.
Buffer the stored back emf until the right phase angle,
and reinsert the back emf from the capacitor into the resonant coil.
The coil becomes even more resonant (higher voltage).
The resonant coil is coupled to the magnetic coil.
This creates a feedback loop.

A second resonant coil is resonant with the first resonant coil.
rectify the high frequency second coil for output.

Magnetic coupling is slave to Lenz law.
Electric field coupling is not.


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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #197 on: January 14, 2018, 11:13:11 PM »
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #198 on: January 16, 2018, 03:55:42 AM »
Take the 3rd phase of a commercially engineered motor/generator
Reverse it, use it as a capacitor
you sacrifice 1/3 torque, but cancel 2/3 of the reverse emf
So you gain ~33% efficiency on a motor that runs at 85-93% already
mathematically, there is a quantity that “should not be there”,
yet here there is a motor providing 66% of its max power
with 33% of its normal input.


it is the same process we consider “reactive power”
but the phase angle is different than what is considered
in power factor adjustments.
this is not just a metering issue.


Reactive power can be used outside of the normal increasing/collapsing field.
if we consider the times during the transition
which is what the 3-phase induction motor is designed to interact with
there are times during which both conduction and induction
occur simultaneously.


the 2-phase motor, or the 3-phase operating on only two coils,
have a direct relationship between conduction and induction.
But throw a 3-rd field into play, at anything other than the right time,
and both the forward and reverse relationship between the two change completely


Offline sm0ky2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #199 on: January 16, 2018, 04:09:08 AM »


Magnetic coupling is slave to Lenz law.
Electric field coupling is not.


I wouldn’t go that far.
According to Maxwell, the magnetic field is always present,
when there is electric flux.


Though the magnitudes may seem small relative to ourselves
They most certainly still are there.


I’m pretty confident I could figure a way to prove this with nanoferrites
But it’s probably a redundant waste of time like putting a c-speed particle clock
on a rapidly moving vessel.....


If we don’t use it, we don’t have to worry about it, until we do.
like an idea of this? Next time the power goes out, wait for your street side transformer
to kick back in, and throw a fork at it.


Or if you want to get fancy, set up a few hundred magnetized needles of strings around
your room when you charge a large sphere with static electricity and shock yourself.
(homework: why do dense steel needles react more violently than soft-iron paper clips?)






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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #199 on: January 16, 2018, 04:09:08 AM »
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Offline AlienGrey

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #200 on: January 17, 2018, 09:34:11 AM »

reactive power generation and utilization.....that's my direction.



the bottom line of all those I have studied is "reactive power generation and utilization".  Most were not openly discussing the subject in a language that all could appreciate, reading between the lines was necessary.  I read between the lines like any good researcher could/would.  The rest were failures, they neither inspired nor delivered working demonstrable concepts. 


I am not here to give you a warm and fuzzy feeling, not here to give you something to nitpick or replicate.  I am sharing what I want how I want.  Place me on your ignore list if my post lack the substance you crave.
If I wanted input from one of Godre'el's trolls id ask for it, BUT I DIDN'T ! now go away and stop CREATING verbal diarrhea like a gaboladicton and messaging me with it  'respectfully' STOP it!

Offline endlessoceans

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #201 on: January 18, 2018, 12:41:47 AM »

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No one I have met has ever produced an air core generator which accelerates under short.....
No one I have met has ever produced an 1000 rpm increase in their acceleration under short demonstrations....


Regards


I have done both.  Solid state and mechanical.  Principle well understood and it far beyond anything that has ever been posted at this site, that's for sure.


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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #201 on: January 18, 2018, 12:41:47 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #202 on: January 18, 2018, 06:09:06 AM »
Me too.

Also:

Reactive power generation and utilization:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLml9VdOeqKa-k7J7vO_I22fVc-h8wcdLf

Offline blueplanet

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #203 on: January 18, 2018, 07:09:15 AM »

The output current waveform is not a pure sine wave.
This is an indication of the presence of non-linearity in the circuit.
You cannot multiply amplitudes of voltage and current and their cos angle together to get the output power.
To get the real power, you need to integrate V(t)*I(t) for the whole cycle.


On the other hand, if the current was truly that much, it will generate a lot heat.


The best way to validate overunity efficiency is to check if it is self-sustaining over a few months.




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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #203 on: January 18, 2018, 07:09:15 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #204 on: January 18, 2018, 07:23:04 AM »

its a sign of the times......you really believe we are on the same page......we aren't....... 



That's the funniest thing I've heard all day!
You've shown time and again what page you are on. I'm not even in the same book as you!

Quote
anyway....  nice work as always.

Thanks. Maybe you can even learn something by watching carefully, if your cup isn't already overflowing.

Offline hoptoad

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #205 on: January 18, 2018, 07:36:42 AM »
I have done both.  Solid state and mechanical.  Principle well understood and it far beyond anything that has ever been posted at this site, that's for sure.

Care to extrapolate or demonstrate/show any data or other visual evidence of your work?


TK always shows what he knows, his capability and knowledge is widely acknowledged and he is well respected for his contributions.
But even TK might not be seeing something obvious in a given circuit, when the obvious might be so easy to dismiss.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #205 on: January 18, 2018, 07:36:42 AM »
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Offline blueplanet

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #206 on: January 18, 2018, 08:56:56 AM »


That's the funniest thing I've heard all day!
You've shown time and again what page you are on. I'm not even in the same book as you!

Thanks. Maybe you can even learn something by watching carefully, if your cup isn't already overflowing.


Have just gone through some of the videos from your group. It is fascinating.

Offline blueplanet

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #207 on: January 18, 2018, 09:14:57 AM »

you assume that I use common practices to generate what I refer to as reactive power.....


a condition one would be wise to comprehend and multiply.


your statement reveals that you are only aware of one means of "integrating" voltage and current.  I am aware of more than the collectively agreed upon you are referring to.


it's clear you don't comprehend the nature of a tank and how energy moves within it.  Fortunately my machines don't work based on your logic, I have significant current flow.....and the coils are sightly above ambient...and I know why....



If I were discussing over-unity, if i cared about efficiency, or a self sustaining system, your point would be valid.  I am focused on usable phenomena relating to the apparatus and method of conversion.


My comment was originally intended for TK. Never mind.
So, what is your method of converting var to watts then?


(EDIT: Sorry, it seems that you both were talking about the similar idea.)


Offline blueplanet

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #208 on: January 18, 2018, 11:13:51 AM »

Mine is not a method through which vars are converted into watts, I process the vars.



we aren't...  not even close.


Could you tell us how to process vars?

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #209 on: January 18, 2018, 12:34:22 PM »

Could you tell us how to process vars?


Set your meter to rms


multiply the voltage times the current times sin(theta)
Where theta is the phase-angle between V and I
This gives you your var (volt-ampere-reactive power)


var processing involves manipulation of the V-I phase angle.
Figment or imaginary power


Real power is measured by instantaneous voltage and current


Imaginary power is measure like: let’s take the voltage Now,
measure the Amps later, and we’ll combine the two and call it a var
instead of a watt. (figuratively speaking)


In practice this is only done during a discrete range of phase angles
Where there is partial over-lap of the voltage and current signals
so that the two interact, bringing a vectored sum of the imaginary power
and the real power into reality.


If their angle is 0, you have real power.
If their angle is too far apart, you have No power.
vars (imaginary power) exist anywhere in between.




 

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