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Author Topic: The secret to Overunity  (Read 32252 times)

Offline blueplanet

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #180 on: January 11, 2018, 11:53:07 AM »


The purpose of my demonstration is not to introduce the question of the existence of magnetic fields in plasma....  my demonstration questions the established dogma regarding the possibility and feasibility of generating and utilizing "reactive power"...


You still need to find a way to capture this power.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #181 on: January 11, 2018, 12:04:46 PM »

my system is open circuit....  part of the observable activity in the electrical discharge is AC.




If the electrical discharge come from one pole, like what happens in Tesla Coil, then it is called open circuit. It not, then it is just a closed circuit. I am afraid there is not much you can get from a closed circuit.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #182 on: January 11, 2018, 12:57:36 PM »
snip...
The purpose of my demonstration is not to introduce the question of the existence of magnetic fields in plasma....  my demonstration questions the established dogma regarding the possibility and feasibility of generating and utilizing "reactive power"...
A nice dramatic demonstration too, I might add. You and I are reading from the same book, we're just on different pages with our research.
Mind you, your persistent references to Tesla's ozone generator on this forum, lifted the fog for me, and I could see one lilly pad in the pond that I've been on before but I hadn't fully explored around it  ??? . But I will explore. :)

Those sleepless nights you told me about. Well, thanks, you returned the favour!  ;)
Cheers and KneeDeep.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #182 on: January 11, 2018, 12:57:36 PM »
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Offline blueplanet

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #183 on: January 11, 2018, 01:28:58 PM »

you aren't paying attention....

Yes, Sir,
I have been working round the clock.
Thank you for your waking me up.
This thread is about secret of overunity, right?
Where is your secret?

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #184 on: January 11, 2018, 01:53:57 PM »
Yes, Sir,
I have been working round the clock.
Thank you for your waking me up.
This thread is about secret of overunity, right?
Where is your secret?


If he told us, it wouldn't be a secret anymore.......






Magnetic field interactions in a plasma take place entirely internally.
Similar to thermal convection.
There is no external "magnetic pressure".
The net external magnetic field is neutralized by the combination of
many plasma dipoles that float around within the plasma fluid.


The plasma will respond (or deflect from) an externally applied field
However, the external field feels very little force from the plasma.


The net (external) electric field of a plasma can be thought of as coherent,
However, the magnetic field remains scattered. There is an almost evenly
distributed sets of magnetic polarities external to the plasma mass.


To compound this process, each group, or packet of plasma, within the mass,
has its own unique mass, and properties of thermal and electric convection.
Owing to its' mass, the count of ions, and non-ionized particles, groups of particles,
electric charges, and other material floating within.


These groups of differing mass, cause the plasma fluid to take on properties that are
unique to plasmas, and do not occur in liquids or gasses.


For instance, a liquid can be polarized magnetically, such that the liquid mass as a whole
accumulates to a net external magnetic dipole.
Whereas each plasma mass group within the sample of a plasma in a magnetic field,
will respond according to the mass of the individual plasma group, and its individual
magnetic field strength. Making it impossible to polarize the entire plasma sample into a
single magnetic domain.


So, while we can use an external magnetic field to redirect, or contain a plasma,
We have very little control over the internal magnetic fields, or their use as an
external driving force.




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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #184 on: January 11, 2018, 01:53:57 PM »
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Offline Cadman

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #185 on: January 11, 2018, 03:11:28 PM »
Nobody says anything about this, but since Erfinder made the videos public I guess it's alright to mention it.

Doesn't anyone notice the huge block of dielectric material the motor is sitting on with the capacitors stuck in it?

All three videos, and in the second video one wire that he is drawing the arc to/from runs into that dielectric block.

The motors are air core with a heavy dielectric polymer casing.

(PS. I am talking about electrostatic waves.)
Yeah......here's the thing....I am not just talking about systems involving them.....I am demonstrating what one can do with systems which produce them.......  fire breathing pulse motor.....show me yours!

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #186 on: January 11, 2018, 04:10:43 PM »
Brief introduction as I am a newbie. I am a retired former Industrial Arts educator attempting to keep the mind active with a shared challenge of OverUnity.  Have been an inactive observer of this website for sometime now and after a few years of trial and error, felt that it might benefit me to interact with others seeking same. I would like basic input on ethics of posting as I occasionally see less than polite references to contributors efforts. I am not certain where it is appropriate to post any personal efforts/results. Are the threads open or closed to personal input/progress? Thanks for any assistance in this area. I will post this on threads that interest me the most.



Hmmmm, 7 days and still no moderator.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2018, 05:17:57 AM by CoastieRM2 »

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #186 on: January 11, 2018, 04:10:43 PM »
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Offline Cadman

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #187 on: January 11, 2018, 04:32:20 PM »
Ookaaay....

Then I am back to square one. Sure had me fooled.

Offline blueplanet

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #188 on: January 12, 2018, 11:57:35 AM »

you aren't paying attention.....

We are paying attention to some machines like those mentioned in the following videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VBNn-ids6M

And this is what overunity is about.

Sorry man, I am interested in any welding machine.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #188 on: January 12, 2018, 11:57:35 AM »
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #189 on: January 12, 2018, 01:56:20 PM »
We are paying attention to some machines like those mentioned in the following videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VBNn-ids6M

And this is what overunity is about.

Sorry man, I am interested in any welding machine.


The tin dreadco can holds a voltaic pile and an hv transformer (low current, high voltage)
This in turn is fed to two electrodes, one with high electrostatic resistance, one with low
resistance. (Rounded and pointed)
This drives the brass buttons.


David jones was a genius, some of his devices are "perpetual",
This one should run for at least another decade.
But not "overunity", by the definition of the word.

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #190 on: January 12, 2018, 01:58:50 PM »

no....neither simultaneous, nor sequential..... SIMULTANEOUS-SEQUENTIAL!  comprehend that!



my purpose is not to convey the (a, or any) path to others....  all lack knowledge till they don't...  understanding that your ignorance grows with insight and revelation, respecting that you are a fart in the wind away from your beginnings no matter how far you delude yourself to perceiving "progress being made" is your curse until that glorious day when the ignorance which centers you is replaced with knowledge which is extended to you from we know not where.... we call it inspiration, it hits us in waves which leave one momentary blind...(blind flash of insight....), in higher forms, distilled by ...within us.... impressions are for lack of descriptive language....divine, the latter choice of word has no biblical, spiritual, nor religious connotation.


So are you going to show us the "secret" to your motor?
Or are you just tooting your horn to a frequency beyond
Our range of hearing?

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #190 on: January 12, 2018, 01:58:50 PM »
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Offline AlienGrey

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #191 on: January 13, 2018, 10:55:53 AM »
Err pardon me but shouldn't we be exposing perhaps selections of circuit techniques or disusing them, rather than having re runs of quote flash backs from Kung fu  Chinese Tae Che from master Po (Keyle Luke).

Allen

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #192 on: January 13, 2018, 01:39:43 PM »
From https://www.google.com/patents/US8847720 (B2 = US patent office granted) going to citing documents in the WO-espacenet :

Lukas Emch
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?FT=D&date=20061031&DB=&locale=&CC=CH&NR=695975A5&KC=A5&ND=3#
( CH-patent office granted)

probably a help

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Offline AlienGrey

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #193 on: January 13, 2018, 02:42:08 PM »
Well all I can say to you is if you don't want to disclose any ideas or active device sections why on earth should we. There are plenty of devices and ideas on the internet only find them and build and test them.

Allen

Offline Belfior

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #194 on: January 13, 2018, 04:02:28 PM »

Honestly.....I am not interested in your ideas...nor sections of devices you may or may not be working on.  I am not interested in devices presented (save one or two which I have researched) on the internet.  Replicating other peoples failures will not get me where I want to be.  I am where I want to be, and share what I want, how I want.

Honestly...We are not interested in "ideas" that are not shared either. Everybody can be a dick. You don't need a forum for that.


 

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