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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #165 on: January 05, 2018, 04:26:41 AM »
Take a disk magnet, diametrically magnetized
and place it on the shaft of a dc motor slightly smaller than the magnet.


aligned with the coils


when you drive the coil, the energy gets recycled by the greater combined field.
A short pulse can result in extremely long run times (few hundred microseconds=2 mins)
as it slowly winds down
Nothing useful will be drawn from it during wind down
But the demonstration shows that the energy that ran first through it
can be converted into flux and back to current through the motor again and again
until the losses consume it.






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Re: The secret to Overunity
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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #166 on: January 05, 2018, 07:58:09 AM »
Take a disk magnet, diametrically magnetized
and place it on the shaft of a dc motor slightly smaller than the magnet.


aligned with the coils


when you drive the coil, the energy gets recycled by the greater combined field.
A short pulse can result in extremely long run times (few hundred microseconds=2 mins)
as it slowly winds down
Nothing useful will be drawn from it during wind down
But the demonstration shows that the energy that ran first through it
can be converted into flux and back to current through the motor again and again
until the losses consume it.


This is important - show us video ! Actually generators run on positive feedback, not by converting mechanical energy

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #167 on: January 05, 2018, 12:14:51 PM »

This is important - show us video ! Actually generators run on positive feedback, not by converting mechanical energy


when you operate a dc motor with electricity it make a distinctive hum or buzz


When you mechanically turn a dc motor to generate, it incurs a particular pulsing
You can ‘feel’ when the coil pass the magnets as you turn the shaft


When the larger field is rotating from momentum, both of these occur simultaneously
with the wires ‘open’ circuit, you have flux, without current.

First time I discovered this was using a 5&1/4” floppy drive magnet
took a few yrs to realize that it was Not the complex field of these magnets
But actually Any rotating magnet, oriented properly to the coils will do this


The field just has to be larger than that created by the internal magnets

The two fields combine to form a combined field, with the coil induction
forming a feedback flux between them. It becomes like a spring

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #167 on: January 05, 2018, 12:14:51 PM »
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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #168 on: January 07, 2018, 03:05:08 AM »

my research indicates that you do have current with conventional open circuits, its value is infinitesimal, we need only figure out how to make it useful.


in my open circuit systems, I have both flux and current.....


No magnetic flux. Just current in the manner of charge movement from one place to another. And this current does not have to be from the same source because capacitor can be monopole rather than dipole.


I am talking about systems involving electrostatic waves.

(PS. CIA has declassified an article on scalar waves. This article seems to contradict some of the elements in the Maxwell's equations. )

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #169 on: January 07, 2018, 03:52:11 AM »

my research indicates that you do have current with conventional open circuits, its value is infinitesimal, we need only figure out how to make it useful.


in my open circuit systems, I have both flux and current.....


Yes in the form of capacitance charging
you can set off oscillations in an open circuit
By making/breaking contact to one end of an open wire


At that point all you would need to do is match the impedance
to form an LC with the open circuit oscillations


Essentially a radio is this.  A single wire antenna is an ‘open circuit’


@blue
Magnetic flux can be demonstrated
It is short lived, as it disappears as the conductor reaches the max charge.
the magnetism only exists while the change in potential is occurring.


when the electric field is oscillating, the magnetic does the same.
At high voltages the magnetic field strength is very small
increases in conductivity at high voltages reduce inductivity
but it does still exist.


Any use of relativity theory will lead to discrepancies with maxwells work.
Because Einstein did not finish what he was doing. And left part of the equations
unhandled.


I don’t think this means Maxwell was wrong, but perhaps we need more information
to make his equations fully translatable at all levels.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #169 on: January 07, 2018, 03:52:11 AM »
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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #170 on: January 07, 2018, 05:06:49 AM »


@blue
Magnetic flux can be demonstrated
It is short lived, as it disappears as the conductor reaches the max charge.
the magnetism only exists while the change in potential is occurring.


when the electric field is oscillating, the magnetic does the same.
At high voltages the magnetic field strength is very small
increases in conductivity at high voltages reduce inductivity
but it does still exist.


Any use of relativity theory will lead to discrepancies with maxwells work.
Because Einstein did not finish what he was doing. And left part of the equations
unhandled.


I don’t think this means Maxwell was wrong, but perhaps we need more information
to make his equations fully translatable at all levels.


I did not say Maxwell was totally wrong.


In a conductor, this oscillating magnetic field is parallel to the surface but the quantity can be extremely small compared to the voltage. That's where high characteristic impedance comes from, i.e. high electric field and  extremely low magnetic field. Inside a low-loss dielectric material, this magnetic field is possibly not measurable. If there is any measurable magnetic component, it is mostly like along the surface of the dielectric material.


By Poynting theorem, the power which can be transferred should be close to zero.   But the experimental facts suggest otherwise.  Unfortunately, all these Zenneck's stuff are too controversial to talk about.


(PS. I am talking about electrostatic waves.)

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #171 on: January 07, 2018, 05:09:31 AM »
This piece of news is funny. I am not sure how those Ben worshiper would react:


https://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/carson-rewrites-the-laws-of-thermodynamics/

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #171 on: January 07, 2018, 05:09:31 AM »
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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #172 on: January 07, 2018, 05:42:11 AM »
the orders of magnitude are inversely proportional
In the same way that voltage and current are in the power equation
The same power can be represented by low V, high I
Or high V, low I


The same occurs with the electric and magnetic induction
because of the time constraints


above threshold voltages (800kV+) this drops to roughly
9.3x(10^-21) Joules per Tesla per volt per meter^2
when we factor out the Weber, we find that at high voltages
the magnetic moment is a very short pulse.
imperceptible to us, but not to a low-energy electron.


it stays at this strength until the other threshold, where matter change states.
then there is no induction, magnetic or electric.
Only charge. The electrons (charge carriers) have fled the scene.
(~2MV)




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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #173 on: January 07, 2018, 08:10:26 AM »
the orders of magnitude are inversely proportional
In the same way that voltage and current are in the power equation
The same power can be represented by low V, high I
Or high V, low I


The same occurs with the electric and magnetic induction
because of the time constraints


above threshold voltages (800kV+) this drops to roughly
9.3x(10^-21) Joules per Tesla per volt per meter^2
when we factor out the Weber, we find that at high voltages
the magnetic moment is a very short pulse.
imperceptible to us, but not to a low-energy electron.


it stays at this strength until the other threshold, where matter change states.
then there is no induction, magnetic or electric.
Only charge. The electrons (charge carriers) have fled the scene.
(~2MV)


There are circuits that require only V to work. Not I. The eventual output power is not VI.


A movement of charge carriers will produce a conductive current, which in turns produces magnetic field. There is no argument against it. The magnetic field which you were talking about was possibly a conductive current of some kind.


A change of electric field also produces a current. This current is called displacement current. This displacement involves no movement of any charge carriers. This displacement current has been proven to be able to do work in some rare situations. But this current does not yield any meaningful magnetic field.  Are you sure you have been able to measure a magnetic field with a displacement current?


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Re: The secret to Overunity
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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #175 on: January 07, 2018, 11:50:31 PM »
I read somewhere that one cannot fill a cup that's already full....

Erfinder, my cup is empty, just ask anybody.

When certain people were investigating the harm done when high voltage DC was suddenly switched onto a line it was reported that stinging rays were experienced. I think that was an electrostatic effect, the sudden increase in potential causing an electrostatic field to explode from the wire. That field would attract the opposite charge to the wire and I think this is where cemf comes from.

Is this correct?

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Re: The secret to Overunity
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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #176 on: January 08, 2018, 12:55:05 AM »





https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000500240001-6.pdf


Thank you, that ties right into the charge-drift phenomenon I’ve been studying
With the induction static machines

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #177 on: January 08, 2018, 01:00:47 AM »


... non-Ohmic materials




In an example using a popular non-magnetic alloy “stainless steel”
(305 I think?)
we find that the magnetic field of the charge sphere to be
a function of the rate of change of potential
at the permeability of free space. (up to the threshold)


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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #178 on: January 10, 2018, 05:16:03 PM »
I believe you already read the CIA article on this thing.

The point is: displacement current does not produce magnetic field. If it does, this magnetic field is due to the conductivity of the dielectric material.

The fourth Maxwell equation is misleading. This is a well known fact.

And obviously, Poynthing vector is more misleading.



There are circuits that require only V to work. Not I. The eventual output power is not VI.


A movement of charge carriers will produce a conductive current, which in turns produces magnetic field. There is no argument against it. The magnetic field which you were talking about was possibly a conductive current of some kind.


A change of electric field also produces a current. This current is called displacement current. This displacement involves no movement of any charge carriers. This displacement current has been proven to be able to do work in some rare situations. But this current does not yield any meaningful magnetic field.  Are you sure you have been able to measure a magnetic field with a displacement current?


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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #179 on: January 10, 2018, 06:00:52 PM »
If your system is an open circuit, i presume it generates AC sparks as well. According to some internet literature, electromagnetic discharge will not create a significant magnetic field because of the self-canceling effects of the ions.

https://www.quora.com/Does-plasma-generate-a-magnetic-field

The magnetic field strength of ESD discharge is around 100uT.

Sorry i don't have all the answers. I suggest you just try it out from experiments.



Since my machines use permanent magnets, I am going to go out on a limb and speculate that there is magnetic flux operating in "my" systems.... I am pulsing current into coils....current in coils produce magnetic fields....soooo.....  we aren't on the same page it seems....


Do you comprehend the difference and or commonalities between the flux of the permanent magnet, and the flux and current of a "current" carrying conductor of a "magneto-dielectric" system? 


I do not acknowledge the commonly accepted view of the dipole....as such, the monopole concept as presented makes no sense.  When we see the dipole as Nature produces and maintains it, rather than how the learned present it to us, we can say dipole and mean monopole, say monopole and mean dipole.  Present geometry of both are fundamentally fucked, no parallels can be drawn between the two..


Yeah......here's the thing....I am not just talking about systems involving them.....I am demonstrating what one can do with systems which produce them.......  fire breathing pulse motor.....show me yours!

 

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