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Author Topic: New electrostatic motor design at U.of Wisconsin  (Read 7599 times)

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Re: New electrostatic motor design at U.of Wisconsin
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2017, 02:16:33 AM »
2014 old article, what happened now?

another science fart in the wind?

TechStuf

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Re: New electrostatic motor design at U.of Wisconsin
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2017, 06:14:25 AM »





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another science fart in the wind?




No, but close.  The funneled fart is directed between the rotating surfaces, much like Tesla's bladeless turbine.  The gasses are ignited by electrostatic sparks into a controlled burn which produces a hybrid, electrostatic plasma which is multipurpose.  It provides a lightly pressurized and consistent plate separation effect while maintaining a charged field from which to siphon mostly clean energy.


(There is a slight residual odor but not enough to detect what the contributor ate that day)


Unless eggs were involved.  Sulfur is hard to hide at any technological level.






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Re: New electrostatic motor design at U.of Wisconsin
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2017, 07:50:01 PM »
a fart is  a fart

most scientists are farting for a living


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Re: New electrostatic motor design at U.of Wisconsin
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2017, 10:34:14 PM »
I found articles from January 2017 and November 2017:

https://www.engr.wisc.edu/ludois-part-1m-effort-develop-advanced-motor-technology/

The U.S. Department of Energy has awarded approximately $1 million over 2.5 years to a university-industry team of researchers that includes Electrical and Computer Engineering Assistant Professor Dan Ludois. The grant is funding design, prototyping and testing for a continuous power permanent magnet wound field synchronous machine, or PMWFSM. This continuous-power PMWFSM will incorporate non-rare-earth permanent magnets into the rotor, and is an alternative to commercially dominant electric vehicle traction motor types. The performance of this new machine is expected to rival or exceed the performance and efficiency of existing motors at a significantly lower material cost.

https://news.wisc.edu/dan-ludois-inventor-of-new-electrostatic-motor-named-moore-inventor-fellow/

Ludois’s capacitive motor runs on electrostatic power conversion, or on the “static cling” force produced from electric fields. Compared to conventional motors that use magnetic fields to convert electricity into rotary force, Ludois’s motor is more flexible in design, powerful, and highly efficient. His motor has the near-term potential to produce three to ten times more torque than electromagnetic motors of the same weight, and doesn’t require rare earth materials in manufacture. It could one day serve as a direct-drive machine for a range of applications, changing the way engineers design wind turbines, electric and hybrid electric vehicles, aerospace propulsion, energy storage, and energy infrastructure.

Poster Floor is right, this motor is very interesting.
I will try to find more information.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: New electrostatic motor design at U.of Wisconsin
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2017, 10:49:23 PM »
Info about Dan Ludois:

http://ludois.wempec.wisc.edu/biography/

A lot of publications and patents from Dan Ludois:


http://ludois.wempec.wisc.edu/publications/

The latest design is probably not published yet.


Greetings, Conrad

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Re: New electrostatic motor design at U.of Wisconsin
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2017, 11:32:00 PM »

Interesting details about the electrostatic motor:

https://www.c-motive.com/tech

C-Motive's motors run on the principle of electrostatic forces, also known as "static cling." This transformative technology stands to change how engineers design the machines that shape and run our lives.

Our motors produce torque by the same principle of rubbing a balloon on a head of hair. The torque produces near-zero heat, just like hair doesn't heat up when charged. Electrostatic torque is produced with voltage and is nearly lossless.

Conventional motors, on the other hand, use the principle of copper coils around steel, which produces torque using current, and current produces heat. Electromagnetic torque always produces heat.

Using "static cling" to create torque means excellent efficiency characteristics at low speeds, where conventional motors are least efficient. It also means that motors no longer require steel, copper or rare earth materials, nor must they have any magnetic properties. Engineers designing complex systems can now consider electrostatic motors as alternatives to electromagnetic motors and actuators, in addition to pneumatics and hydraulics.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: New electrostatic motor design at U.of Wisconsin
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2017, 03:10:55 AM »
It’s like the cylinder with the spiral foil, between
two oppositely charged points.


Except the people of Wisconsin figured out that if we
Put 5 + spirals stacked in the same direction
And 5 - spirals on the bottom, also in the same direction
We can put a neutral foil spiraled plate, in the opposite direction
And it will spin in one direction.
(reverse the conditions to go the other way)


It is extremely powerful for an electrostatic motor.
And, I agree with the above post, it has similarities to the Tesla turbine.

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Re: New electrostatic motor design at U.of Wisconsin
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2017, 03:13:24 AM »
The more I look at it, I don’t think we really need multiple plates.
The effect should also occur (and possibly better)
If we have solid spiral cylinders. Top and bottom
And the oppositely spiraled disk in between.

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Re: New electrostatic motor design at U.of Wisconsin
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2017, 03:19:08 AM »
I CALL IT BS

few pics not even a demo working model. no mechanism, no math.

those articles are just word salad.


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Re: New electrostatic motor design at U.of Wisconsin
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2017, 11:39:48 AM »


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3nsuVHP-fQ




Hmmm

from 2013, from their website

 3-10x more torque/kg than BLDC motors

• Near-lossless torque production

• Direct-drive to eliminate gearing/belts

• Passively cooled

• Completely sealed against harsh environments

• Low inertia for maximum acceleration

• Maximum torque with "pancake" form factors

no demo, no video, no pic, no mechanism, but word salad.

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Re: New electrostatic motor design at U.of Wisconsin
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2017, 11:41:07 AM »
vote me in 2020

i put all liars away

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Re: New electrostatic motor design at U.of Wisconsin
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2017, 02:53:02 AM »
@ConradElectro

I immediately thought that this subject might be of interest to you,
when first someone brought it to my attention.

Thanks for finding / posting all that additional info.

        regards
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Re: New electrostatic motor design at U.of Wisconsin
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2017, 08:04:44 AM »
maxwell is top science guy. his em theory is bs.

there is no electric field moving in space at light speed and self producing a magnetic field at 90 degrees to form a transverse wave.

that carries those force fields? photon? how?

einstein theories are all bs. gravity cannot curve space, cannot dilate time. space and time have no mass, gravity only act on mass.

all atomic structure theories, standard or bohr model, are total bs.

the attraction force between opposite charges is the strongest force in the universe, there is no possibility that electrons able to circle/wave/cloud around the protons, to form stable atom.

all science based on that model is false.

we can hardly separate two strong magnets, how nature makes electrons not stick to protons all the times?

what is uncertainty principle? it is certain that there is only attraction force between opposite charged particles in every atom. it is uncertain how the fuck they don't stick together at all the times.

wave-particle duality? how electrons wave? what's the cause?

all things must have precise mechanism.

remember God doesn't play dice?

the forces between charged particles rule the universe.

the force between electrons f=Ke x ee/rr is the carrier of all em phenomena. current, light, em wave, magnetizing, induction, radiation, fiction, photoelectric effect, photosynthesis and more.

all mechanic work is also that force at work.

if you push a thing, the electrons on your skin are pushing the electrons on that thing.

no one, no thing, can make 2 electrons stick together. the repulsion force is very very strong.

what force can separate electron and proton? aren't they attract each other?

qm my ass, less than a fart. ENERGY IS ELECTROMOTIVE FORCE carried by moving matter/charge. energy can only coexist with matter.

what is dark matter? what is dark energy? those dark scientists are from a dark age. GO TO GO!