@smoky2,

 Citfta denies there's any power at all reaching the source battery from the inductive kickback through the LED.

A "Navy Pilot"? Who doesn't even understand Ground Effect? We've been through that before, to your total humiliation.  Let's see your DD214.

The DD-214 is a military discharge form. The most important feature is the nature of discharge. Mine reads "Honorable".

"Dihedral Effects in Aircraft Flight. In the context of aircraft flight, the dihedral effect is the phenomenon of roll moment created from sideslip. The dihedral effect of an aircraft is largely affected by its dihedral angle, which is the angle of deflection of the wings from level in the roll plane".

Tinselkoala doesn't understand that ground effect is in direct proportion to negative dihedral angle. Simply stated; The straighter the wings side to side the stronger the ground effect. TK uploaded a series of swept wing aircraft making low passes. The aircraft under discussion was a passenger jet with straighter wings. There's no way to push an aircraft like that below the ground effect air cushion with the cockpit controls. The commercial aircraft would have to slow down to impact the pentagon at ground level.

The problem is that frogs really do have wings.  We just can't see them.  Which makes just as much sense as the rest of this thread.