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Author Topic: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.  (Read 89895 times)

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #600 on: March 13, 2020, 03:27:05 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIAQvvfAE0M


This experimenter gets 6 times the power with the magnet between the coils:


The important point to note is that he is feeding A.C. current into the primary and the magnet is fixed to the stator!

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #601 on: March 14, 2020, 03:39:36 PM »

                  Neo magnet attached Siamese "E" core's and twin primaries.

The challenge is to get 6 times the power from two microwave transformers with Neo magnets attached, through their 1 to 1 primaries in tandem powered by an A.C. current like Tinman succeeds at with his shaded pole motor stators.


He's only powering the coil with 4 A.C. volts!

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #602 on: March 14, 2020, 04:20:50 PM »
Viewing the OzSolar-Power vid I came to the Raselli1 vids and some in there is refreshing !
About his core question : it is the cause why metglas/permalloys are used !
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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #602 on: March 14, 2020, 04:20:50 PM »
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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #603 on: March 14, 2020, 04:26:21 PM »
The transformer stator material is very high perm already. The percentage improvement with Metglass is not enough to justify the cost of the higher perm, but so what?

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #604 on: March 15, 2020, 01:55:17 PM »
But I hope that you also read right the " before/after"  input/output Volt ratio : V to mV  !
To write about " power amplification" we need to know the power defining parameters ,before/after changes !

And for the OzSolarPower-experimenter core saturation is his CONCERN  !

Publicated papers related permanent magnets use in transformer core ,as help :

Sanshiro Ogino : without " basic factor" 0,3=30% efficiency with "basic factor" 1,0 = 100%

Keiichiro Asaoka   transformer core with airgap 1/40     airgap ovebridged by pm 1/1

The OzSolarPower " voltage amplifier"  I would compare with the old experiment results with now 50 years availability from the bolivian inventor Carlos Subieta-Garron.

The Raselli1 vids show the core/coil behaviour which are helpfull to to see the different effects related permanent magnet and electromagnet use in transformer core/-s !
To see the effects and thinking about "on/off"- switching ,flip-flop process !



https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6yZTEPtUY56GH8PvDNuCxg

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #604 on: March 15, 2020, 01:55:17 PM »
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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #605 on: March 15, 2020, 02:32:58 PM »

@lancIV,

Thanks for the extremely helpful links!


Nothing could be simpler! The two coils are wired to the two switches so that they neutralize the permanent field in opposition.

So, the energized coil in opposition to the polarity of the magnets, draws the flux away from the other leg, and when the opposition coil is fired, it heads in the other direction!

The two teetering SPDT rocker switches accomplishes this task!


This generator needs two recovery diodes. The back spike is assisted by the evacuation of stator field caused by the neutralization pulse of the partner coil.

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #606 on: March 15, 2020, 02:37:38 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfptuTeRdb0


pure DC- or pulsed DC or AC calculation formula and measurements ?






above video : Comment

stephen wallinvor 4 Jahren



Since from this video I do not know were this is leading, but adding the magnets to an AC coil core only affects each alternate AC cycle, alternating as a shunt and then increasing the flux on the next cycle.


 The shunt is reducing the efficiency for a half cycle , then increasing it for the next, but with a hysteresis effect that reduces the increase to give an overall decrease combined with the more efficient shunt effect.


 The power in will go down, but speed will not drop much, as speed depends on frequency as well as voltage. And frequency causes a major issue,


 Watts =VxI and all equivalent formula work only with pure DC, not AC waves forms of any type.


An amp meter will not show the true amps, not even an RMS value, as the wave form may not be a pure sine wave. the only way is to work out the area of the wave, difficult with most equipment even a scope.


 Also volt meters on AC settings are designed to handle AC in the range of 50/60 cycles per second, pure sine wave, and cannot be trusted on higher or lower frequencies.


 I should add I designed motors and transformers in industry, now retired.




MEG : http://alt-sci.ru/en/wiki/Vortical_transformers


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=21&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990720&CC=US&NR=5926083A&KC=A


or


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=JP&NR=2003009558A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=20030110&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


translated description :


http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=JP&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2003009558&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=ja&TRGLANG=en



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According to the present invention, as described above, a permanent magnet magnetized to a required magnetic flux density is sandwiched by a yoke made of a soft magnetic material having a high magnetic permeability, and the magnetic flux direction of the permanent magnet is changed in one direction. A magnetizing coil is provided on one side of the yoke for generating a magnetic flux substantially equal to the magnetic flux of the permanent magnet running in the yoke and generating a reverse and forward magnetic flux in the direction of the magnetic flux. A magnetizing unit, an induction yoke made of a soft magnetic material having a high magnetic permeability and connected to the magnetization unit, and an induction coil for extracting an induced power accompanying electromagnetic induction is provided on one side of the induction yoke. And the output units are connected alternately and appropriately in number and their edges are closed, so that only a small amount of AC power is input to the magnetizing coil of the magnetizing unit to magnetize the inside of the yoke. Strong magnet of permanent magnet An alternating magnetic flux is generated in the reverse and forward directions, and the running magnetic path of the magnetizing unit is opened and closed, and the magnetic flux generated by the magnetizing coil is added to the open magnetic path in addition to the magnetic flux of the permanent magnet. Is also demagnetized and magnetized by the connected output unit, and when a closed magnetic circuit is formed, the magnetomotive flux in the magnetized unit is significantly increased. Since the output unit is alternated in accordance with the frequency, a high electromagnetic induction effect occurs in the output unit. Due to the magnetization of the output unit due to the open magnetic path of the magnetic field, a magnetic path is formed around the entire configuration, and the interaction caused by the formation of the circular magnetic path causes the magnetization from the magnetized unit to the output unit to be one step higher. Strong it is promoted electromagnetic induction to work. Therefore, by designing a specific magnetic circuit based on the AC power source to be used, its frequency, and the desired output power, it is possible to obtain output power several to several tens times as large as the input power. The equipment is small and easy to produce, so it can be realized at extremely low cost. It is a power generation method and a power generation device that greatly contribute to the realization.

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #607 on: March 15, 2020, 03:58:55 PM »
Just needs a rocker switch and we should be in business!: Two synchronous Washtub pump motor stators and two one inch cube magnets:


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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #609 on: March 15, 2020, 10:30:15 PM »
This hopper can trigger a MOSFET: The rocker is a ceramic block magnet in spring opposition. It can serve as a "Rocker".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r3tXEKzBu0

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #610 on: March 16, 2020, 12:42:22 PM »
When the attraction pulse powers one side of the MEG, the other coil generates a charge from the withdrawal of flux into the attraction coil stator. Following that, The charge reverses and the current interruption causes a backspike that is reinforced by the additional flux withdrawal from the stator to the other side!

These are two separate but combined flux motion factors. Recovery diodes and a Microwave capacitor may produce a self runner.

The proposed "E" core MEG works identically, with two alternating attraction neutralization pulses in the opposition polarity magnetized stators.

Switching can controlled by circuitry.

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #612 on: March 16, 2020, 01:17:45 PM »
schematic from the patent;

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #613 on: March 16, 2020, 01:26:05 PM »
But I wrote about "(electrical) controle circuits" and not about identical co-axial I-cores + 4 identical pm cubes what the Ramos Suarez concept represents !




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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #614 on: March 16, 2020, 01:37:15 PM »
But I wrote about "(electrical) controle circuits" and not about identical co-axial I-cores + 4 identical pm cubes what the Ramos Suarez concept represents !


Right! Here it is: He has 3 capacitors in parallel with his power source which is the same wiring and two four pin switches #7 identical to mine. The "Fermes" must be diodes.

 

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