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Author Topic: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.  (Read 47613 times)

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Faraday induction principles.
« Reply #240 on: June 15, 2018, 09:27:54 PM »
Imagine two solenoid air core coils of the same dimension and weight in copper facing each other; Next, two axial polarized tube magnets connected to each other with a rod and positioned inside the coil cores.

We use one coil to pulse power one Neo tube and gather input from it's twin.

What would happen if we added a second magnet to the core of the power coil? The output from the pickup coil would double from the additional strength of the power magnets with no increase in input power, right?

What would happen if we doubled the mass in copper of the power coil? We would double the output with the same unit of input too that way. We can quadruple the COP of this motor generator by doubling the strength of the power magnet and the weight in copper of the pulse coil, right?

The same proportions hold true for the EM oscillator. The only difference is that we need to understand that the increased core inductance of the EM coil has the same effect on field strength as increasing the weight of copper wire in the pulse coil.

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Faraday induction.
« Reply #241 on: June 17, 2018, 04:17:10 PM »
Three ways to increase output: Increase magnet strength, magnet motion or coil windings.

The ratio's the same with the power factor; Increasing coil windings will increase magnet field strength in direct proportion to the weight in copper, as demonstrated by Hob Nilre.

Coil geometry and construction are separate factors. No one has ever seen an electromagnet used to drive a motor, or used as an output coil before.

Imagine two electromagnets taped together face to face, wired with DPDT switches, so each can generate a magnetic field and recover output from it's sister.

Let's apply Faraday's law of induction to this simple MEG: Doubling the weight in copper to the coils would quadruple the COP because we would double the field strength for unit of input while at the same time doubling the output.

We can multiply field strength in a coil be adding a ferrite core. This has the same effect on the amplification of field strength as increasing the coil windings.

What happens when we add a ferrite core to an output coil? It cogs the rotor magnet with magnetic attraction, and reverses the gain.

I have turned this attraction handicap into an advantage with the EM oscillator.

Taking advantage of core value over coil windings is a quantum leap in power generation. The increasing ferrite core strength has the potential to generate power in direct proportion as well as increasing copper coil windings. Consider this! This amounts to an important discovery

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #242 on: June 17, 2018, 05:15:15 PM »
'Taking advantage of core value over coil
windings is a quantum leap in power generation.'> u know mos.THAT is the importend discovery

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #242 on: June 17, 2018, 05:15:15 PM »
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12 pin MEG.
« Reply #243 on: June 18, 2018, 11:30:11 PM »
The 12 pin spring pressure switch appears above and in the video below. This switch contains 3, 4 pin SPDT switches combined like the one running the oscillator.

The 600 Lb magnet is hazardous. Securing two 640 lb force "Electro-magnets" face to face and fastening them with a plastic lock tie would eliminate any pinching hazard from the huge permanent magnet.

The center 4 pin switch can power an EM oscillator of smaller size and control the two 640 lb electro magnets as a reciprocating MEG with the 2 remaining 4 pin switches to the outside. The controlling oscillator should run cost free because tests have shown it returns all of it's power.

The two MEG EM's would wire one to the outside and the other to the inside of each remaining 4 pin switch so that when one was off in the depressed position the other would be on and visa-versa.

Video of the 12 pin switch:

https://youtu.be/mEuPt-6cr4M
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Solenoid reciprocator.
« Reply #244 on: June 19, 2018, 02:32:13 AM »
This same 12 pin switch and oscillator could run two aircore solenoid coils with a long reciprocating axial polarized cylinder magnet piston, attached to a "Scotch Yoke" by a collar and pin in the center. This kind of motor could drive a large locomotive while recovering all it's input power, depending on the coil construction and magnet strength. The output would be pulsed D.C. from each end.

I demonstrated the "Unity" aspect of the oscillator. The work done by the oscillator piston is the free power. This is an example of free power doing work for zero cost.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2018, 04:56:23 AM by synchro1 »

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Relative permeability
« Reply #245 on: June 19, 2018, 05:21:33 PM »
"The force of the lock is proportional to the square of the relative permeability of the magnetic core. Given the relative permeability of a material can vary from around 250 for cobalt to around 5000 for soft iron and 7000 for silicon iron, the choice of magnetic core can therefore have an important impact upon the strength of a magnetic lock. Also relevant is the choice of current, number of loops and effective length of the electromagnet".

This basic law underscores the central point I've been making the entire time on this thread. This augments "Faraday's Law". The magnetic force of an electromagnet is proportional not only to current and number of loops, but more importantly "The square of the relative permeability of the core". The converse of the law, which you will never see published anywhere, is that the output of an electromagnet coil is a direct function of the core perm too!

The COP of a "Chiral Siamese" electromagnet MEG would be a function of the relative core permeability of the two electromagnets!

Therefore: Doubling the core perm in a twin facing EM MEG will quadruple the COP!

My oscillator tests prove conclusively that the power in, to the force field out is equal to the force field in to the power out in the electromagnet.

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #246 on: June 19, 2018, 07:35:37 PM »
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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #247 on: June 19, 2018, 08:24:26 PM »
The standard unit of inductance is the henry. The equation for calculating the number of henries in an inductor is:

H = (4 * Pi * #Turns * #Turns * coil Area * mu) / (coil Length * 10,000,000)

The area and length of the coil are in meters. The term mu is the permeability of the core. Air has a permeability of 1, while steel might have a permeability of 2,000.

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Lenz effect.
« Reply #248 on: June 19, 2018, 09:33:34 PM »
The magnetic fields are interpenetrating along the "A" vector at 180 degrees in the oscillator, neutralizing "Lenz Drag", like the zero force motor does by positioning the output coil at 90 degrees.

This helps explain why we witness an even exchange. Using a magnetic core with a spinning rotor magnet is self defeating.

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #249 on: June 20, 2018, 12:53:45 AM »
Look at this 10 Henry choke and the silicon steel laminations:
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10 Henry electromagnet.
« Reply #250 on: June 20, 2018, 01:31:00 AM »
I'm converting this choke into an extremely powerful electromagnet, hacksawing the "I" off the "W" stator by hand. The inductance of the 500 Newton coil is .75 Henries. With a MU of 7000, the magnetic attraction strength from the silicon steel lamination core coil should be around 1300 pounds! That means it will be generating 13 times the magnetic field strength of the cheap electromagnet for the same power input.

The power of MU!

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10 Henry electromagnet.
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10 Henry electromagnet video.
« Reply #251 on: June 20, 2018, 04:41:34 PM »

Here's the 10 Henry electromagnet in action:

https://youtu.be/aDotzd6SheI


The round magnet with a cobalt core and MU of 250, generates around 100 pounds of attraction force. The higher Henry "E" core of silicon steel laminations with a MU of 7000 would generate many times the attraction force for the same input!
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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #252 on: June 20, 2018, 06:39:48 PM »
Assuming we generate more attraction force with the higher permeability electromagnet then the electromagnet with lower core Mu, with the same input power. Here's the question: Will the higher permeability core coil generate more output then the coil with less permeability from a rotor magnet of equal strength and force? For example; Let's say we simply roll a powerful neo magnet sphere into each coil core powered by magnetic attraction alone and measure the output from the collision. Will the coil of higher core permeability generate power in the same proportion it generates a magnetic field from input to the one of lower value? In other words, would the higher Henry coil generate many times the electrical power as the round EM coil of less inductance from the motion of a permanent magnet of equal strength and force of motion? The answer is a categorical "yes", based on the test results I performed and recorded throughout the course of this thread. The strength of the EM's can easily be tested by attaching a permanent magnet of known gauss, and seeing if the coil can drop it with a neutralization pulse.
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Final inductance measurements.
« Reply #253 on: June 20, 2018, 10:28:29 PM »

I replaced the battery in my "VICI" Inductance meter, and remeasured the inductance of the two electromagnet coils.

The 10 Henry choke, which measured 10 Henries when I first got it, now measures 1.91 Henries with the core split.

The 500 newton round coil, which has been used mightily by me, now measures .052 Henries. It generated a little over 100 pounds of attraction strength new, but has grown weaker.

Nevertheless, the silicon steel laminated "E" core EM coil currently has a whopping 36.7 times the inductance as the round cobalt core EM.

That means the round EM coil would need 36 times the power to do the same work as the laminated one. That would surely make it smoke!

The corollary, of course, is that the silicon steel core coil would generate over 36 times the power from the same magnet rotor as the round EM.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2018, 02:21:36 AM by synchro1 »

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #254 on: June 20, 2018, 11:54:31 PM »
O.K., now for a final exam see if you can make sense of the following statement:

The EM coil is in the presence of a magnetic field with a value of one "Negative Henry".

The core saturation from the adjacency of a permanent magnet field would lower the core inductance from 1.92 to .92. and therefore have a value expressed in 'Negative Henries".

 

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