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Author Topic: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.  (Read 63854 times)

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #135 on: February 24, 2018, 11:23:10 PM »
@smOky2,

What's the definition of a Henry of Inductance?


When you store and release a magnetic field in an inductor
it is the inductors tendency to resist a change in current.


It can also be defined by flux/current for each unit time


Or
Kg m^2/s^2A^2


For this value to be (-) means you have an inversion of
electromotive force (I.e. reverse current)


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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #136 on: February 24, 2018, 11:44:58 PM »

When you store and release a magnetic field in an inductor
it is the inductors tendency to resist a change in current.


It can also be defined by flux/current for each unit time


Or
Kg m^2/s^2A^2


For this value to be (-) means you have an inversion of
electromotive force (I.e. reverse current)


@smOky2, Citfta,

I built a copper wire coil with a variable ferrite core I showed in a video above. I positioned the core in the coil to measure zero inductance with my inductance meter. When I move the ferrite core out one centimeter, the inductance measures negative .001 mH. When I move it out two centimeters, it reads negative .002 mH. Now when I reset it to read zero, then move it in one centimeter it reads positive .001 mH and when I move it in again another centimeter it reads positive .002 mH.

Now are you two maintaining that the negative reading has no value over the positive one as a core locator? 

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #137 on: February 25, 2018, 12:10:52 AM »
About the quote:
I would have to see that in full context to know what is being said.






Your coil, when the core is inserted forms an
inductive rheostat, or variable inductor




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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #137 on: February 25, 2018, 12:10:52 AM »
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #138 on: February 25, 2018, 12:13:48 AM »
If you don’t have another set of clip leads
You can make leads from copper wire to take a reading

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #139 on: February 25, 2018, 12:25:24 AM »
If you don’t have another set of clip leads
You can make leads from copper wire to take a reading

@smOky2,

Why should I do a stupid job like that for you?



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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #139 on: February 25, 2018, 12:25:24 AM »
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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #140 on: February 25, 2018, 12:26:56 AM »
@smOky2,

Why should I do a stupid job like that for you?


it’s not for me


I don’t care

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #141 on: February 25, 2018, 12:28:57 AM »

it’s not for me


I don’t care

@smOky2,

I'll bet you any amount of money it won't make any difference. Look, it's the position of the ferrite core that determines the polarity of the inductance reading. It's not going to make any difference if I cut the clips off my attaching wires.

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #142 on: February 25, 2018, 12:44:58 AM »
@smOky2,

I'll bet you any amount of money it won't make any difference.


The only difference it would make is eliminating one possibility for error.
It still doesn’t rule out a faulty component inside the meter.
But it is a start.


which, at this point, eliminating as many errors as you can
should be your goal if you want to prove that you have
actually created a negative inductance.


NOT doing so would mean that you aren’t willing to look for errors in measurement.
So the question would be why are you bothering to measure at all?


why is it that you think your magic piece of copper is showing a (-) value?
did you “do something” to the coil prior to measuring it?


Have you taken a measurement using a different meter to verify this at all?
Surely you know someone else with a meter.....




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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #143 on: February 25, 2018, 01:28:41 AM »

The only difference it would make is eliminating one possibility for error.
It still doesn’t rule out a faulty component inside the meter.
But it is a start.


which, at this point, eliminating as many errors as you can
should be your goal if you want to prove that you have
actually created a negative inductance.


NOT doing so would mean that you aren’t willing to look for errors in measurement.
So the question would be why are you bothering to measure at all?


why is it that you think your magic piece of copper is showing a (-) value?
did you “do something” to the coil prior to measuring it?


Have you taken a measurement using a different meter to verify this at all?
Surely you know someone else with a meter.....

@smOky2,

Your missing the point. I found a way to reverse inductance polarity with an analog tool. We can plot a distance in negative henries. The possibilities are limitless. The polarity reversal and incremental calibration together amount to a precision measuring instrument. We're not dealing with a meaningless value that is the result of meter error.

This negative inductance measure is telling us something significant about Tesla's serial bifilar coil. The measurement is not junk data. The cascading nature of the value is an indication of free energy. I believe it's important we pin it down and not dismiss it prematurly as some kind of fluke.

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #143 on: February 25, 2018, 01:28:41 AM »
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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #144 on: February 25, 2018, 01:34:34 AM »
So you keep saying


The inductive rheostat in my photo above is older than all of us.
Why has no one else made these claims?


Not to mention your (-) reading with no core


What is different with your coil and one I wind myself?

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #145 on: February 25, 2018, 01:36:24 AM »
More importantly, how can I make mine, like yours?

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #145 on: February 25, 2018, 01:36:24 AM »
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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #146 on: February 25, 2018, 01:52:40 AM »
Why are you unwilling to verify the accuracy of your own measurements?


Do you understand the implications of having negative mass*meters per time*area?
Or why the circuit I posted is important to you?


You’ve posted 10 pages of hooplah


But are unwilling to check a pair of alligator clips......
Or a possible biasing error in your meter


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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #147 on: February 25, 2018, 03:29:24 AM »
Saying you have negative inductance is like saying you have a glass that has less than zero water in it.  You can't have negative inductance anymore than you can have a negative gallon of water or negative capacitance.  It just doesn't make sense.

Here is a video that proves that synchro1's insistence that current reverses on removing power from a coil is also wrong.

https://youtu.be/IGRt0Kg55Sc

None of us were born with any electronic knowledge.  We all had to learn from somewhere.  Many of us learned from our hands on experience and combined that with what we learned from our peers.  Some were even fortunate enough to learn from an educational system that actually taught the truth.  Some have learned well from books.  And some refuse to learn from any source at all because they are convinced they already know what they need to know.  I surely pity them.

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Carroll

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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #148 on: February 25, 2018, 04:01:55 AM »
Saying you have negative inductance is like saying you have a glass that has less than zero water in it.  You can't have negative inductance anymore than you can have a negative gallon of water or negative capacitance.  It just doesn't make sense.

Here is a video that proves that synchro1's insistence that current reverses on removing power from a coil is also wrong.

https://youtu.be/IGRt0Kg55Sc

None of us were born with any electronic knowledge.  We all had to learn from somewhere.  Many of us learned from our hands on experience and combined that with what we learned from our peers.  Some were even fortunate enough to learn from an educational system that actually taught the truth.  Some have learned well from books.  And some refuse to learn from any source at all because they are convinced they already know what they need to know.  I surely pity them.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Great video Carroll,but do you get the feeling that it will fall on deaf ears?

Sometimes we just have to let people walk there own path.

A negative resistor would become a power supply/battery.
You could just build a negative impedance converter--that would get  synchro1's juices flowing lol.


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Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #149 on: February 25, 2018, 04:06:05 AM »
I showed him how, he wasn’t interested

 

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