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Milkovic vs. Bessler...
« on: November 28, 2006, 06:47:49 AM »
...if you situate face-to face   www.veljkomilkovic.com/OscilacijeEng.html   and    www.evert.de/eft720e.htm  .Veljko Mirkovic's "Mechanical hammer with a physical pendulum"(it really works) can be a validation and a proof of Bessler's Wheel?It seems so.The one and the other ,play a lever-pendulum configurations in gravity and inertia,so to realize self-motion.That is we have two procedures?Maybe more...All the Bests!/Alex

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Milkovic vs. Bessler...
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Gravity nodding donkey...
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2006, 10:57:33 PM »
...can be a name for this Milkovic's "mechanical hammer with a physical pendulum".When we confront the paradoxical,puzzling around us...we expose ourself to reality.The oil pump jack(nodding donkey,horsehead pump that "nodds" at a regular rhythm in oil fields) is intended to drill oil/energy from a downward source.Milkovic'c elementary machine, is like an upward /gravity pendular pumping system.An oil jack pump,in a short description operates so:a prime mover/engine powers a rotating crank,that moves an horizontal lever(walking beam) up and down to operate a pump.In a "mirror" short description,the gravity nodding donkey can operate so:a prime mover/gravity pendular pump powers an horizontal lever(walking "hammer"/mass) to operate a power storing system.If input/outpur >1(why we need a so great ratio/12 ?),the system becomes so interesting!You know,invention breeds invention:to do just the opposite of a oil pump jack...but if we look "vis-a-vis".In some games,the most important decision is the way you bet.All the Bests!/Alex

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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2007, 09:37:12 PM »
....to swing a pendulum(any mass with an eccentric CoW/center of  weight/ face to  the pivot,support) in your hand.What  do you feel?  I  feel  a  pressure,push that is  "lost"  cyclically  in my hand. In the Milkovic's  pendular hammer,this one  is transffered,not wasted.As  Goethe said,feelings go farther than thinking.All the Bests!/Alex

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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2007, 09:37:12 PM »
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Re: Milkovic vs. Bessler...
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2007, 06:07:02 AM »
           Hi!
    A peculiarity of  Bessler's Wheel(as explained at   www.evert.de/eft730e.htm   ) and of Milkovic's  "Hammer with a pendulum" (as you find at   www.veljkomilkovic.com/OscilacijeEng.html   ),is in the same time a common method to collect from the fulcrum/pivot ,the decreasing oscillatory charge-discharge of a free swinging pendular motion.
     Usually,this stress,in a common pendulum,remains  "immerged" in the fulcrum,support  because is considered as an uninteresting physical tension or pressure.
     Maybe  Bessler,bur evidently Milkovic take advantage of it.
     As you swing a pendulum in your hand ,and all the pressure that you feel is "piled up" ,gathered  in some way ...
                    All the Bests! / Alex

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Re: Milkovic vs. Bessler...
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2007, 03:42:01 AM »
    Hi!

So,we have "bad" news for skeptics,if you take a look at  http://www.micropixel.biz/veljkomilkovic/videos/Veljko_Milkovic_(video-8)_Universal_two-stage_oscillator_full_presentation_wmv
       
        All the Bests!  /  Alex

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Re: Milkovic vs. Bessler...
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2007, 03:56:39 AM »
      Hi!

Forget me,please for the "point" mistake.The address is:   http://www.micropixel.biz/veljkomilkovic/videos/Veljko_Milkovic_(video-8)_Universal_two-stage_oscillator_full_presentation.wmv 

  All the Bests!  /  Alex

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Re: Milkovic vs. Bessler...
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2007, 05:25:34 PM »
    Hi!

So,we have "bad" news for skeptics,if you take a look at  ...
        All the Bests!  /  Alex

I am very very sorry
I am a mecanical engeneer and it not like this
that you can verify :

- the input work
- the output work

so I do not see evidence in this video

daniel

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Re: Milkovic vs. Bessler...
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2007, 07:09:18 PM »
Hi Daniel,

I agree, a more scientific method in measuring the input and output power is needed.

Have you seen this:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Milkovic-Berrett_Secondary_Oscillator_Generator

I do not say this is fully scientific but it is much closer to it now... ;)

rgds

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Re: Milkovic vs. Bessler...
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2007, 07:28:07 AM »
       Hi !

The next "bad'" news for skeptics is,as Prof Milkovic pointed out ,that we are in the presence of the independence of the input from the output.

It's like we have an evidence of an energy flow.

If so,the first step is the attachement,joining and the second step is the feedback,so to have a continuous flow.

Again,as Prof Milkovic said,to run experiments,the research is the only way to teach something.

We need the skeptics ,as the basic "noice  grass",or ZPE if you like,for people really interested to test the next steps.

Skeptics are never deceived,in their slow suicide because they are the chastity of a primary intellect.We love them,anyway.

     All the Bests!  /  Alex

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Re: Milkovic vs. Bessler...
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2007, 06:05:00 AM »
                       Hi  !

So,if a Milkovic(or Milkovic-Berrett or an other set-up) device type,gives us a real pulsatory spring,flow of power,then the main problem of the "free energy" is solved.

How we can pull out the power,becomes an easy,secondary problem.

It can be in a mechanical manner(Leonardo da Vinci ratchet proposal to his attempts of a PM),in an electromagnetic mode(we are living in an electro-digital division of the history...),in a Milkovic's mode(pumping,lifting water in the gravitational levels) or others.

The main feature seems to be a pumping,waving method of "something".

When all is said and done,the adventure or a simple "see the world" moves its stage:is not outside us,but inside.

                    All the Bests!  /  Alex

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Re: Milkovic vs. Bessler...
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2007, 06:58:32 PM »
...the one(involuntary) and the other(intended),played the same  long arm-short arm game,but in some different manners.

Bessler remains a secret "wheel concept'' procedure,after a so long time.

Milkovic is an open "lever concept" drawing and replication,in the same time.

If you take an attentive look,about his lever with pendulum arrangement,the "hammer" has a constant arm,but the other arm,with pendulum,has an equivalent("as","like a...") of a variable arm:in an alternate succession,a longer,and then a shorter arm vs. that of the opposite "partner".

Milkovic intended to "help" the motion of a hand water pump and...comes by an interesting long arm-short arm swinging motion.

Sure,the last and useful,applicable step can be a (self) rotating long arm-short arm motion.

Now,are we between those two last steps in a so long-time reasoning and practical adventure?

Maybe,we can say;  "faites vos jeux,les jeux sont faites.Rien ne va plus...<la banque> gagne toujours au final",or "if you want to make a good wine,be the last to harvest" !?

Anyway,this is a huge game,so there is a place for anybody!

    All the  Bests!  /  Alex

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Re: Milkovic vs. Bessler...
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