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Offline Void

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Re: 2020
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2018, 07:50:06 PM »
BTW one does not need an investor to sell things. You make a dozen. Sell them. Reinvest to make more. Sell. Etc.  Every relative and friend I know would buy one. All of their friends would quickly learn about it including all of their close social media friends who would be breaking down the door to buy one. Explosive growth. That's for the real deal. Not a fake. Don't be disappointed. The public will see the real deal one day when humanity is ready.

Hi Theoretical Research. That certainly appears to be what many people assume should be the case,
but it does not appear to be anywhere near so straight forward and easy in actuality... :) There is
also some indication that some/many inventors of this sort may have been shut down by governments
or others based on 'national security' and similar excuses. Good luck with it. :)

All the best...

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Re: 2020
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2018, 07:50:06 PM »

Offline Theoretical Research

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Re: 2020
« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2018, 07:59:55 PM »
Yes there are a lot of people who won't believe until enough people believe. That's called skepticism. Close family & friends are different. That's all he needs. Build a few. Freely bring them over to some relatives. Let them get free energy for a month. They buy it, obviously, and word of mouth will grow at such an exponential rate that you will not be able to hire enough people to make them to keep up with demand. Pyramid schemes demonstrate the power of word of mouth. The math is simple. Each of ten people tell ten people, who each tell ten people, etc. That's real world. That's being realistic. You will know it when the real deal arrives. The problem is that out of 7+ billion people the probability is high there extremely disturbed people. Disturbed enough to get pleasure out of making people think they've invented the biggest thing in history.

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« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2018, 08:02:14 PM »
Hi Theoretical Research. That certainly appears to be what many people assume should be the case,
but it does not appear to be anywhere near so straight forward and easy in actuality... :) There is
also some indication that some/many inventors of this sort may have been shut down by governments
or others based on 'national security' and similar excuses. Good luck with it. :)

All the best...

So you're telling me that your close relatives would not allow you to freely bring over a machine that gives them free energy, and that after a month of free energy they buy it? Come on. This conversation has turned into nonsense lol. After 13 years he can't do anything with it, it's a fake. The government has no worries here, yet.

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Re: 2020
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2018, 08:02:14 PM »
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Offline Theoretical Research

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Re: 2020
« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2018, 08:10:51 PM »
And yes, there is a good chance governments such as the U.S. would stop such an inventor based on some laws that basically say they can do so if the technology has been deemed as a threat. That's why you don't hop on a forum like this and post the device. The U.S. government can't stop an avalanche. That's why the inventor needs to do this behind the scenes in his or her local neighborhood. Give the device to some science college students with the agreement that if the device works as described that they agree to make X amount of devices within a certain number of days and give the devices to other people. No government can stop that.

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Re: 2020
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2018, 08:35:08 PM »
There can be worlds of difference between assumptions, and actuality...
The reality is people are often wrong about things they believe to be certainly or almost certainly true.  ;)

Various people who claimed to have free energy devices have tried to wing it on their own believing that
the world will beat a path to their door, but so far none have succeeded that I know of. Some may be working
with governments behind the scenes and may be under strict gag orders, so maybe some free energy devices
are already well under research and development by some governments behind the scenes... Who knows for sure. :)

One common mistaken/unrealistic assumption many people seem to have is that once a claimed free energy
device is shown to be legit, that it should then only be maybe a year or so before it should be ready for public sale
and use. In reality it can take many years to research, develop and test a new technology to get it to a point
where it is deemed to be safe, reliable, and practical. With some unknown new energy source and technology,
it could potentially take many years of R&D and big bucks to get to a point where the technology is reliable and
safe and ready for mass use.

All the best...


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Re: 2020
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2018, 08:35:08 PM »
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Offline forest

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Re: 2020
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2018, 08:44:10 PM »
friends, answer that question ? how can you sell device working on principle which is so simple you would laugh ? how many times Columbus had to discover America ?

Offline Theoretical Research

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Re: 2020
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2018, 08:44:58 PM »
There can be worlds of difference between assumptions, and actuality...
The reality is people are often wrong about things they believe to be certainly or almost certainly true.  ;)

Various people who claimed to have free energy devices have tried to wing it on their own believing that
the world will beat a path to their door, but so far none have succeeded that I know of. Some may be working
with governments behind the scenes and may be under strict gag orders, so maybe some free energy devices
are already well under research and development by some governments behind the scenes... Who knows for sure. :)

One common mistaken/unrealistic assumption many people seem to have is that once a claimed free energy
device is shown to be legit, that it should then only be maybe a year or so before it should be ready for public sale
and use. In reality it can take many years to research, develop and test a new technology to get it to a point
where it is deemed to be safe, reliable, and practical. With some unknown new energy source and technology,
it could potentially take many years of R&D and big bucks to get to a point where the technology is reliable and
safe ready for mass use.

All the best...
There's a repeated flaw in your posts. You're under the assumption there are all of these legit free energy devices and these inventors can just seem to get the ball rolling. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the ball is dead still because they are fakes, or the inventors don't know how to take proper measurements and therefore replicators can't seem to get OU. Yes I believe there have been legit self-runners, but they're a rarity throughout our entire known history.

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Re: 2020
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2018, 08:44:58 PM »
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Offline Void

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Re: 2020
« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2018, 08:58:31 PM »
There's a repeated flaw in your posts. You're under the assumption there are all of these legit free energy devices and these inventors can just seem to get the ball rolling. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the ball is dead still because they are fakes, or the inventors don't know how to take proper measurements and therefore replicators can't seem to get OU. Yes I believe there have been legit self-runners, but they're a rarity throughout our entire known history.

Hi Theoretical Research. Nonsense.  I have very clearly not suggested that I think there are
many legit free energy inventors out there. I have said that I think Kapanadze is one of the
more credible claimants I have personally come across over the years, but that of course in no way
means I think his devices are certainly legit. I have actually also pointed out that most free energy device
claims actually turn out to be either people who are mistaken, hoaxers, or outright scammers.

I have mentioned other claims and speculations about free energy devices and inventors, but in no way have
I suggested that I assume there are many legit devices out there. ;) That is a complete fabrication
on your part. Since it appears you have not been bothering to read my comments, I won't waste
further time commenting on this to you. You should understand however that your apparent assumption
that Kapanadze is most probably a fake is really just an unproven assumption. Until I see some actual evidence
that Kapanadze has faked his devices, then I personally will leave the possibility open that his devices might be legit.
Assumptions are not evidence. ;)

All the best...


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Re: 2020
« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2018, 09:07:51 PM »
friends, answer that question ? how can you sell device working on principle which is so simple you would laugh ? how many times Columbus had to discover America ?

Hi Forest. Yes, as I have pointed out, if Kapanadze's devices are legit, the biggest problem
is selling his device without first having to reveal the secret behind them. Many potential investors or buyers
will likely insist that he must submit his device to an independent lab for full and open testing, but in such a case
his 'simple secret' would be out of the bag and they wouldn't need Kapanadze any more. If Kapanadaze is legit, this is
possibly the problem he has so far been unable to solve. Add to this that Kapanadze is apparently maybe more than
a little paranoid about being ripped off and has also apparently shown himself to be erratic in business dealings
and you have a very tricky situation at best. :)

All the best...


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Re: 2020
« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2018, 09:07:51 PM »
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Offline Theoretical Research

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Re: 2020
« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2018, 09:17:10 PM »
Hi Theoretical Research. Nonsense.  I have very clearly not suggested that I think there are
many legit free energy inventors out there. I have said that I think Kapanadze is one of the
more credible claimants I have personally come across over the years, but that of course in no way
means I think his devices are certainly legit. I have actually also pointed out that most free energy device
claims actually turn out to be either people who are mistaken, hoaxers, or outright scammers.

I have mentioned other claims and speculations about free energy devices and inventors, but in no way have
I suggested that I assume there are many legit devices out there. ;) That is a complete fabrication
on your part. Since it appears you have not been bothering to read my comments, I won't waste
further time commenting on this to you. You should understand however that your apparent assumption
that Kapanadze is most probably a fake is really just an unproven assumption. Until I see some actual evidence
that Kapanadze has faked his devices, then I personally will leave the possibility open that his devices might be legit.
Assumptions are not evidence. ;)

All the best...

The problem is that you keep reasoning with yourself why inventors of free energy devices haven't been able to get the technology to the public. Instead of posting about all of that you should try to be more realistic. The Kapanadze device is a prime example. You've repeatedly defended it despite that it's been at least 13 years. Come on. There's a thing called being delusional.

Offline Theoretical Research

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Re: 2020
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2018, 09:30:12 PM »
Hi Forest. Yes, as I have pointed out, if Kapanadze's devices are legit [snip]

Smh, 13 years he hasn't been able find an investor. He hasn't figured out that he can sell the devices without an investor by starting out small and reinvesting profits to buy more materials to make more, eventually hiring other people to make the devices. Nothing. Nothing but flawed logic. So he's afraid to take the device to a University and allow the scientists to take everything apart to verify it's not a fake, but yet he expects to sell millions of the devices? Did it occur to anyone that the act of selling the device means everyone can learn how to make the device?

I was told correct. It's a fake. All I see is a bunch of people at these forums who seem to have an invested interest in steering hobbyist in the wrong direction. Hm, go figure!

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Re: 2020
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2018, 09:30:12 PM »
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Re: 2020
« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2018, 09:38:58 PM »
There's a thing called being delusional.


Yes, I see evidence of this pretty much every day. ;)

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Re: 2020
« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2018, 09:41:14 PM »
Come on now. Not in this timeline.


Yes, in this timeline and every other.
It is irrefutable.
Say what you will, but the simple fact is
Your oil lamp sits above its fluid reservoir
Yet needs no oil pump


The wick-wheel continues to rotate forever.


Capillary action is OU.
The time masters cannot make that one go away

Offline Theoretical Research

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Re: 2020
« Reply #58 on: January 05, 2018, 09:45:36 PM »

Yes, in this timeline and every other.
It is irrefutable.
Say what you will, but the simple fact is
Your oil lamp sits above its fluid reservoir
Yet needs no oil pump


The wick-wheel continues to rotate forever.


Capillary action is OU.
The time masters cannot make that one go away

Oh my. Could you & the void please do all of the poor PhD academics around the world a favor and finally once and for all let those poor scientists test your amazing devices that you so firmly believe to exist?

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Re: 2020
« Reply #59 on: January 06, 2018, 02:28:34 AM »
The wick-wheel has a thread on this forum, it’s been here for over a decade.
The instructable is simple. Water reservoir, capillaries, a wick to drip on the wheel
and of course a low mass wheel to spin from the dripping water, which returns to its reservoir.
It is easily replicatable in many designs, and the only argument so far to date is “evaporation”
Which we know how to prevent.
The ones that weren’t made of paper, are still spinning.



Talking to the collegiate professors is of no use.
Any of them that are worth their title already know the truth.
And they are well aware of their schools relationship with the accreditation board.
They willingly lie to their students for a paycheck.




 

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