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Offline gyulasun

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2055 on: August 15, 2019, 12:13:42 AM »
Luc,

It would be good to read first what exactly Rick means on a COP > 1 performance, for instance ? How he defines COP.  He mentions work done which sounds good for a start...

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2055 on: August 15, 2019, 12:13:42 AM »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2056 on: August 15, 2019, 01:19:58 AM »
Luc,
Like I wrote: "depending on how you define efficiency, COP, etc." The context I am speaking here is in using two different forms of energy output. Mechanical and electrical. This is at a really basic level here.
So if you can show that then why haven't you? I thought that is what you guys were after? Am I missing something here Luc?
If you believe a video can prove OU over the internet then you are naïve and expect people to be as well. Now a video can show people how to prove it to themselves, but you cannot prove the video is genuine, not altered, or that the environment is not manipulated, etc.
If these guys are the best then you don't know anyone. They have revealed basic level knowledge and zero knowledge about nonlinear science. Maybe they are great with linear systems but they assume that is everything.
I have supported my claims but you guys just ignore them. Now these guys claims are unsupported. Why is it that only I am required to support claims. And since when is anyone required to do anything here or online? I mean, this is only an information sharing place. You guys have made into an inquisition. It's ridiculous.  ::) Everyone repeats their claims and that is fine. It's just that I have supported them. I have shared the theory right from the top electrical pioneers and the top today. I have also demonstrated these things to thousands of people in the real world. I have also shown way more how to do these things for themselves. That is all the support possible. But you guys have showed zero for your claims and then just resort to personal attacks. These guys well even deny what they just wrote a few posts back! It shows a manifest conspiracy right here with these guys you so admire.

I don't know what Aaron has. He was a joke. But he knows how to make money. I understand why people are so made. I have more reason than all of you put together to be upset with him. Yet I don't reject everything he said or has done because of that. There is a lot of useful information for Dollard and I appreciate that. I have no idea their arrangements as I was never involved, and I don't know anything about all the drama with other people. I'm just saying this because I see manifest over-reaction prejudice. At least on his forum people are open to OU. Here most of the people are manifestly hostile to it. They argue against the essential OU processes while refusing to justify their claims. They will not give the basis or foundation for their theory of electromagnetism. I have pointed them to Faraday and Maxwell but they ignore that foundational testimony. I have point to Tesla, Kron, Barrett and still nothing. I could list hundreds more at the very top. This is not name dropping either. It is quoting them in the essential points. Zero response. Silence as if I never wrote it. Then I show some super basic things and all I get is circle reasoning that says they are right because they are right. Never any explanation. The only one that tried was G. And that was just a diversion from the point at hand. That is why I realize something else is going on here as it has been from the beginning of this forum. There have always been extremely hostile forces here at play to keep this forum from actually being about OU. It is about disproving OU and attacking people. You guys are not serious at all. Some are, but they just get shot down. You guys don't even give people a chance. You are just mean people. But there is something more than that. Naturally there are trillions of dollars at stake in this as everyone knows, so naturally there is some money spent to hire people to do this. And this is why they get so upset when they fail to do their disinfor job...

You have made a big huff-puff about nothing Luc. You misunderstand my point. I really don't care about how much it takes to make a self-runner. I made an Newman/Window motor, actually 2 or 3 self-run with very little output. No big deal. I showed these many years ago. I made magnet motors as well. So I understand your point. Don't miss my point. And get upset about things that really matter.

I have long proved my claims. You also have testimony that you disregard that you know very well. I just confirmed that. If you don't believe me then move on. It is that simple. I am just sharing information. I have no interest in proving something to a hostile person, and being foolish in thinking that something like this can be proven over the internet. That is a real joke. Shows how childish you people are.

Good luck on getting these guys to drop this. It is their job to suppress it. If it was all just a joke and I had nothing, then they all would have just made a few statements and moved on. But they all know it is real, that is very obvious. What the specific motives are only they know. The words tell a lot however.

Quote from: rickfriedrich on August 14, 2019, 05:49:18 PM
"These guys will never admit to anything being OU unless it is self-running, which means one would have to have 2 times the work done than normal (depending on how you define efficiency, COP, etc.). "

Luc writes:
Sorry Rick but that is incorrect!... you do not need twice the output to self loop a device.
All you need is isolation between input and output and the output power only needs to be 1% over the input power.
If those conditions can be continuously maintained (no fluctuations) then that is enough to sustain self loop conditions.

If you don't believe me just say so and I will prove you wrong and show you how it's done. I will even demonstrate it without any doubt in a way you say it is not possible by making a video demo on the internet.

You have had advice from the best of real Experimenters that I know of, like Tinsel Koala, Itsu, Guyla, Partzman, TinMan, CITFTA and you still keep repeating unsupported claims we have all heard of and tested in the past from the supposable knowers of the secrets which you can buy from guys like Aaron just to find in the end they really have nothing.

So if you want to validate your argument stop arguing and put out the proof just like I'm willing to do to prove you wrong about needing twice the output power to self loop.
However, know this is a two way exchange, so if you're dead set on never providing any proof to your claims then it's clear you have nothing like Aaron and have lost this ridiculously long for nothing argument.
So if Rick is not willing to work in a two way exchange, then I ask all researchers to stop wasting time in this topic unless you have real proof to share and not just words.

Regards
Luc

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2057 on: August 15, 2019, 01:34:11 AM »
THE MOTHER AND FATHER OF FREE ENERGY IS EFFICIENCY AND ONE NEED TO KNOW
WHERE THE ENERGY IS COMING FROM.
https://newatlas.com/linear-labs-hunstable-electric-motor/60974/

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Offline rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2058 on: August 15, 2019, 01:50:16 AM »
Chet,
I just got off the phone with the customer who is responsible for that Lab and I was right about what I said, and you are not. You are speaking to a middleman who was not there for this and also is mistaken about several things.
Your statements are misleading as I wrote:

1. They didn't only produce loads for 1.5 months.
2. The whole time they conditioned the batteries for three months they loaded them down to 10V. That was real energy the whole time. Now I just told them that if they had talked to me about it, and not Bedini who misled them, that if they had discharged them down to 1 or 0 volts it would have been a whole lot faster.
3. These batteries had the negative energy phenomena. Such a battery was shown to this middleman.
4. The customer did need a massive system so that setup was not big enough. The customer didn't think of the system so negatively as the "nuisance" word implies. He was looking for a system without batteries. And that is fair enough. But it did work just as expected. He just wasn't aware of anything more than the basic system. If I had been in contact at the time I would have shared the things I have now shared with him.

So it's hearsay when the Lab tells you they have the exact results I was talking about. But it would not be hearsay if the Lab reported negative results. Nice double standard. Just like everything on this thread.

This very experience once again proves my point. Information from a Lab conveyed to people on this thread gets changed to show something worse than what was experienced. And this was the Lab recommended to verify these things with! This is why the whole OUR thing is a joke. You can't trust anyone else to verify something. Even when the Lab reports something people can change it. But the Lab can be paid to make it not work. Or they can make a mistake as well. This happens all the time. So again it is established:


POINTS HAVING BEEN PROVEN SINCE JUNE 2019:
1. OU Claims and Disproof OU Claims Cannot be Proven Over Video, Pictures, and Words Over the Internet. People Can Only do Science and Prove Truths of Demonstration to Themselves In The Real World.
2. Forums Can Only Provide Information to Other People which Needs Personal Verification Unless it is Self-evident.
3. Free Energy and Over Unity Do Not Imply Self-running or Self-looping, while the Inverse is True.

  I called the lab ..I find out about the motors, that you have them now or sold them ...? I asked about the motors and how they worked and what they did , would seem the 1 1/2 months was all  they were ever used for and it was felt The batteries were quite a nuisance .
 So The machines were sitting there collecting dust .
 No idea what all that other stuff you wrote is about ??
 I posted hear what I was told  I did ask permission first before I posted here
I did not add about the 45 W solar panel that was also on the job site
 But I posted what I was told ...2000Watt output for 1 1/2 months The machine and batteries are on the job all day and the machine charge the batteries at night
 And yes the man was happy to get the power on and just use electricity to run the job and be done with back-and-forth machine transportation every day
 I thought you would be very happy with this ...the only problem is it was hearsay

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2059 on: August 15, 2019, 01:51:52 AM »
It would appear that Rick has dug himself into a hole and is
trying desperately to defend his hole with rash accusations.

It's behavior we see time and time again with those who
claim to have found real overunity.

Matt Jones, Dave Bowlin and now Rick Freidrich are singing
the same refrain which goes something like this:

"My science is good, it's all of those who question
my claims who haven't the ability to see the greatness
of what I've accomplished!!  They're bad people who are
against Real Science and who are determined to prevent
the path to overunity being realized by anybody!!"


If those who are making their premature claims of overunity
would meticulously abide by the Scientific Method in establishing
their "proofs," without letting their egos get in the way, they'd
surely see the folly of what they are doing.

Or, perhaps not.  Those who are deceived often resort to
hostile ugliness to defend their error.

When and if Real Overunity or Free Energy in any electrical
circuit or device
is actually discovered, the phenomenon
should speak for itself in Truth.  The Overunity should be
foolproof rather than capricious;  always available rather
than sometimes it happens but usually not.

Those who claim to have found Overunity should be able
to show what its source is, how it is being harvested and
why it works.  So far, this has not been done conclusively
with any claim anywhere.  Apart from the obvious exceptions
of course, such as wind, solar, and water power.

While the free energy able to be made manifest by Daniel
Pomerleau is indeed real, it cannot be explained by Science
as we presently limit it.  It is energy that comes from a place
we are reluctant to consider.  It is being exploited, however,
in Secret Programs with the assistance of certain entities
whose existence is generally denied.

Disclosure is coming but not yet.  One day we will all know.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Offline rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2060 on: August 15, 2019, 02:30:13 AM »
You invert the real story. You guys are desperate. This is only an information exchange. You can't prove anything here besides your own self-contradictions as we have seen now confirmed again and again. What you are talking about is what Brad did as I have pointed out. I could care less what you guys think or even say. I share this information with those silent readers who are growing by the day. There are about 158,000 views on this thread for a reason.
Speaking of behavior, we have seen these things for many years now with people who refuse to back up anything they say, and who never respond to fundamental questions. This is called fallacy and evasion.

You miss the point. I came here telling you right away that I DON'T EXPECT ANYONE TO BELIEVE MY CLAIMS. Did you read that Monkey? I have repeated this hundreds of times now. So that says a lot about you doesn't it. My point is that people need to prove something to themselves. So notice what you are saying:
"My science is good, it's all of those who question my claims who haven't the ability to see the greatness of what I've accomplished!!  They're bad people who are against Real Science and who are determined to prevent the path to [disproving] overunity being realized by anybody!!"

Do you see the problem with fallacies, they can be self-defeating. All that has been shown here is self-proclaimed disproof claims while people inflate their greatness. I never claimed greatness. There is no need for greatness in this research.
But it is true that people have largely set out to disprove OU. Just read what they are arguing for.

Yeah you need to put your ego aside. That is what I have been arguing from day one.

Truth does speak for itself, but it is a fact that people generally disregard what they know to be true. There is no justification for your statement about OU in this regard. Says who? Also with the next statement. What is and what you want it to be are different things. The statements are foolish.

It is not true that if someone has OU they should know why it works. How many people know how or why a solar panel works? They can have it and know that it is OU.

Then you claim to know all things and everything that has been said or done about OU. Whose ego is inflated here?

It would appear that Rick has dug himself into a hole and is
trying desperately to defend his hole with rash accusations.
It's behavior we see time and time again with those who
claim to have found real overunity.
Matt Jones, Dave Bowlin and now Rick Freidrich are singing
the same refrain which goes something like this:
"My science is good, it's all of those who question
my claims who haven't the ability to see the greatness
of what I've accomplished!!  They're bad people who are
against Real Science and who are determined to prevent
the path to overunity being realized by anybody!!"

If those who are making their premature claims of overunity
would meticulously abide by the Scientific Method in establishing
their "proofs," without letting their egos get in the way, they'd
surely see the folly of what they are doing.
Or, perhaps not.  Those who are deceived often resort to
hostile ugliness to defend their error.
When and if Real Overunity or Free Energy in any electrical
circuit or device
is actually discovered, the phenomenon
should speak for itself in Truth.  The Overunity should be
foolproof rather than capricious;  always available rather
than sometimes it happens but usually not.
Those who claim to have found Overunity should be able
to show what its source is, how it is being harvested and
why it works.  So far, this has not been done conclusively
with any claim anywhere.  Apart from the obvious exceptions
of course, such as wind, solar, and water power.
While the free energy able to be made manifest by Daniel
Pomerleau is indeed real, it cannot be explained by Science
as we presently limit it.  It is energy that comes from a place
we are reluctant to consider.  It is being exploited, however,
in Secret Programs with the assistance of certain entities
whose existence is generally denied.
Disclosure is coming but not yet.  One day we will all know.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2061 on: August 15, 2019, 03:00:15 AM »
Sea Monkey;  You come out of nowhere to attack Rick..
This forced me to read some of your posts.


I would suggest others to do the same.


It is plainly obvious that your knowledge of this subject is lacking and you completely
misunderstand Tesla.
Rick bases his technology on proven patents by Carlos Benitez.
Joining the herd and making baseless accusations may make you feel like you have friends.


Go and look at Benitez's patents and do a critique on them  and tell us where they are
wrong. Then I will take your posts seriously. Up to now your post is a waste of 20 minutes
of my time I'll never get back.

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Offline SeaMonkey

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2062 on: August 15, 2019, 03:36:41 AM »
Perhaps from your perspective it may seem to be an
"attack" but what I've done is focus on behaviors
which can be modified or corrected.

There is certainly nothing wrong with what Rick is
striving to accomplish.  His kits may indeed help
those who are curious to become better acquainted
with the science of electricity and electronics.

Hopefully, those who pursue Overunity or Free Energy
will become intimately aware of the Scientific Method
which strives to find TRUTH and let go of any thoughts
of deceiving the masses for either fun or profit.

Does anyone find it rather strange that those who
are most vocal about having found Overunity or Free
Energy is that they seem to have these things in common:
they're relatively new to the science of electricity and
electronics and are not particularly good at accurate
measurement techniques and not particularly good at
explaining what they believe they have "discovered"
and why it seems to manifest "Free Energy."

The Scientific Method demands that until such time
as replication with instrumented proof of measurement
we should all be skeptical as we seek to comprehend.
We should also be particularly careful to not make any
claims prematurely or in error.

Sadly, most who we see proclaiming that they've found
the secret to Free Energy or Overunity are doing so
very prematurely or with the intent to deceive for either
fun or profit.

Why does it seem that honesty and integrity are
lost in the process for too many proclaimers?

Quote from: A.King.21
It is plainly obvious that your knowledge of this subject
is lacking and you completely misunderstand Tesla.

 :o ;) ::)

I see that you've apparently fallen into that hole too.

As with all things under the sun;  time will tell. 8)

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2063 on: August 15, 2019, 04:00:47 AM »
It would appear that Rick has dug himself into a hole and is
trying desperately to defend his hole with rash accusations.

It's behavior we see time and time again with those who
claim to have found real overunity.

Matt Jones, Dave Bowlin and now Rick Freidrich are singing
the same refrain which goes something like this:

"My science is good, it's all of those who question
my claims who haven't the ability to see the greatness
of what I've accomplished!!  They're bad people who are
against Real Science and who are determined to prevent
the path to overunity being realized by anybody!!"


If those who are making their premature claims of overunity
would meticulously abide by the Scientific Method in establishing
their "proofs," without letting their egos get in the way, they'd
surely see the folly of what they are doing.

Or, perhaps not.  Those who are deceived often resort to
hostile ugliness to defend their error.

When and if Real Overunity or Free Energy in any electrical
circuit or device
is actually discovered, the phenomenon
should speak for itself in Truth.  The Overunity should be
foolproof rather than capricious;  always available rather
than sometimes it happens but usually not.

Those who claim to have found Overunity should be able
to show what its source is, how it is being harvested and
why it works.  So far, this has not been done conclusively
with any claim anywhere.  Apart from the obvious exceptions
of course, such as wind, solar, and water power.

While the free energy able to be made manifest by Daniel
Pomerleau is indeed real, it cannot be explained by Science
as we presently limit it.  It is energy that comes from a place
we are reluctant to consider.  It is being exploited, however,
in Secret Programs with the assistance of certain entities
whose existence is generally denied.

Disclosure is coming but not yet.  One day we will all know.


It has been my life experience that this condition existed for many of the seemingly real ones.
It may be that the individuals with this "afliction" cant see it in themselves or lack the ability to scrutinise their own work.

Our child hoods are filled with imaginary figures and many we bring with us .

What is real to one person may be in conceivable to another ,it is a diverse tapestry of ideas and science has more to explain than has been explained, but we are getting there.

The conflict is in the question of why would one make such a claim?

Phsycology?  May take a little more time .

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2064 on: August 15, 2019, 04:32:21 AM »
Mannix and Sea Monkey.  If you go back and read my early posts you will see that I have been promoting Carlos Benitez   many, many years ago.  I have been entirely consistent.  When I realized that Rick was talking the same language and had based his devices on Benitez I recognized the truth.  So I repeat:   Prove Carlos Benitez wrong.  Show me your experiments.


Rick does not have to prove out Benitez.  Right is on his side.  You have to disprove Benitez.


Be my guest.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2065 on: August 15, 2019, 05:19:35 AM »
Quote from: A.King.21
Rick bases his technology on proven patents by Carlos Benitez.

I've studied Benitez and Tesla.  They both have made premature
claims without sufficient comprehension of what they had
observed.  This was also true (erroneous claims) of many other
researchers from years ago.  Time will always tell.

You may not get your 20 minutes back but you'll be wiser for
having expended the time.  Over time as we acquire more and
more understanding our opinions change.  Yours will too.

As of this year 2019 there has not been a single soul in all of
humanity who has developed any electrical or electronic device
which will produce a sustained power output greater than its
input power requirement.

Daniel Pomerleau has been given access to a source of Free
Energy which is the same source accessed by the Secret
Programs.  Looking for Overunity or Free Energy in electric
and electronic devices is not where it is.  It is possible to
recover "wasted" energy in such devices by making them
more efficient by minimizing losses and much effort is devoted
to that pursuit.  Overunity it is not.

Think Alien Encounters.  Then you'll be close to the target.


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2066 on: August 15, 2019, 05:30:00 AM »
Luc,

It would be good to read first what exactly Rick means on a COP > 1 performance, for instance ? How he defines COP.  He mentions work done which sounds good for a start...

Gyula


No problem Gyula, I've unsubscribed from this topic.
Please notify me when the information is satisfactory.


@SeaMonkey, spot on. Wish I had your writing skills
@Mannix, the years you've been here deserves respect

@a.king.21, you're protecting beliefs, not facts
@seychelles, maybe I shouldn't say anything, can't be easy to be stuck on a tinny Island in the middle of the sea

Kind regards :)
Luc

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2067 on: August 15, 2019, 06:21:19 AM »
YOU ARE RIGHT LUCKY LUKE. I MADE FIRE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJvosb4UCLs

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« Reply #2068 on: August 15, 2019, 08:05:01 AM »
I didn't just mention work done for a start, there has been much detail given already.

It is rather important to carefully define such ideas. The full idea will depend upon what you come into this with. Most people want to look at circuits as if they are completely closed to the environment. They oversimplify matters for convenience and because they think usually environmental influences or things influenced in the local environment are minimal. I have mentioned several times now that at least everyone acknowledges thermal and altitude influences. So there is no closed system ever. With that said, COP is more than just the basic statement of: "Ratio of the usable energy output of a system divided by that portion of the total energy input that is input by the operator." You can also consider this with average output and input. Now there is more to consider when you realize that usable energy output is relative to what you know about energy dynamics. This is why as a philosopher I am not insistent upon keywords that are often defined differently or over simplistically. It takes time to understand what people exactly mean by keywords.

For example, if we have a fan that is 94% efficient and we only assume mechanical work to be possible with that fan under the circumstances, then we will only get a limited result. But what if we move around a diode and reduce that input energy while also producing an additional electrical output? More usable energy output manifests with less operator input. Now what if Heaviside was right and there was also more potential energy still (beyond the Poynting diverged energy) that could be used from this primary loop process? In both cases you would have made changes so technically speaking the basic definitions still holds with only the parts normally used and positioned. You have to 1. place a sail in the air to catch the wind, or 2. a battery in a Loving Path to benefit from the unused potential. (2.) The solar panel placed in a dark room or without a load represents the fan's coils' negative phase without the Loving Path extra loop with battery in series. (1.) The Heavi wind moves the Poynting boat a little along its current path, and when a capacitor sail is properly positioned the boat moves faster. And when the captain tells his crew that he will share the spoils the men row in battery faster still towards the free treasures. ;)

I cannot stress enough the total environmental causes and effects and topological considerations upon all electrical systems, especially with nonlinear systems with reactive elements. What you go into this with is what you will come out with. Methodology is everything. We can have several outputs at once if we know what collectors to use and how to properly transduce or process such. This can be shuttled around to reduce or eliminate the operator's input while producing other useful work as well.

Luc,
It would be good to read first what exactly Rick means on a COP > 1 performance, for instance ? How he defines COP.  He mentions work done which sounds good for a start...
Gyula

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2069 on: August 15, 2019, 08:36:12 AM »
Nice try Monkey,
While there certainly are many who are mistaken about free energy due to ignorance it is not true that all are ignorant about electronics or metering that say they have OU when they don't. There are/were a good number of people who were fully trained and decided to take advantage of people through deception. That is like organized or trained criminals.

You assume I am mistaken or ignorant or deceiving others. I am neither of these and I have been doing electrical things since I was a child. So far you are wrong in all of your insults. You say not good and explaining but you haven't bothered to pay attention to the words. You think you are cleaver with your words but the fact that you have to resort to sophistry shows that that is the only card you have.

What you think is prematurely claimed is not the standard of what is true unless you think you have a monopoly on truth. This has been the prevailing attitude by so many people here. Their experience has been the standard of what is possible. That is immature. Just because others have not experienced something doesn't mean a person can't make a claim. Someone witnesses a murder, is that any less true because others didn't witness it? Someone moves a diode and adds a battery as an additional load. Just because no one has done that before doesn't mean that it is not to be mentioned.

"Sadly, most who we see [here] proclaiming that they've found the secret to Free Energy or Overunity  [to be impossible] are doing so very prematurely or with the intent to deceive for either fun or profit."

Your sophistry speaks volumes about you and your friends.

Perhaps from your perspective it may seem to be an
"attack" but what I've done is focus on behaviors
which can be modified or corrected.

There is certainly nothing wrong with what Rick is
striving to accomplish.  His kits may indeed help
those who are curious to become better acquainted
with the science of electricity and electronics.

Hopefully, those who pursue Overunity or Free Energy
will become intimately aware of the Scientific Method
which strives to find TRUTH and let go of any thoughts
of deceiving the masses for either fun or profit.

Does anyone find it rather strange that those who
are most vocal about having found Overunity or Free
Energy is that they seem to have these things in common:
they're relatively new to the science of electricity and
electronics and are not particularly good at accurate
measurement techniques and not particularly good at
explaining what they believe they have "discovered"
and why it seems to manifest "Free Energy."

The Scientific Method demands that until such time
as replication with instrumented proof of measurement
we should all be skeptical as we seek to comprehend.
We should also be particularly careful to not make any
claims prematurely or in error.

Sadly, most who we see proclaiming that they've found
the secret to Free Energy or Overunity are doing so
very prematurely or with the intent to deceive for either
fun or profit.

Why does it seem that honesty and integrity are
lost in the process for too many proclaimers?

 :o ;) ::)

I see that you've apparently fallen into that hole too.

As with all things under the sun;  time will tell. 8)

 

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