Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Tesla Paper

Free Energy Book

Get paid

Donations

Please Donate for the Forum.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.(Admin)

A-Ads

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics

  • *Total Members: 83885
  • *Latest: geovat

  • *Total Posts: 523002
  • *Total Topics: 15574
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 5
  • *Guests: 9
  • *Total: 14

Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 249400 times)

Offline ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7217
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1950 on: August 08, 2019, 12:25:02 AM »
Seaad
 That is a very good starting point
 Trust absolutely no one... if that works for you .
 Prove everything yourself in front of you .


 How do you suggest it be changed ?


Of course what you describe would seem to be unique to this forum
As everywhere on the planet people exchange  and build and share
 And move forward .


 As a point of fact someone sends you something that they charge you for with plans and directions
I would imagine you would expect a refund if it didn’t work?


Here on the Internet word-of-mouth(internet texting) is the single biggest vetting process for consumers
 anything you buy of any value at all ,,,you absolutely rely on Feedback  from satisfied users
you investigate others experiences you look and search everywhere you possibly can for satisfied customers.  Or problems recalls issues etc. etc. etc.


To say ....in my opinion this model Doesn’t work here at this unique particular forum  and several others?
Well that would be amazingly disingenuous
After all there are no published plans ,no part numbers , yes I agree you have to buy the kit and thankfully we have members that have bought the kit and are willing to share the results (Stefan friend)
 so I suppose this is all hearsay or assumption until such a person steps forward with actual feedback from the actual product .
so yes I agree under the terms you describe absolutely 100% you cannot prove anything.


If you refer to your work ? is that what you were referring to?


Since you recently shared it ....the forum  has been an absolute mess
members can’t post
people are afraid to write


Please be brutally honest with exactly what you mean?


Chet






 



Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1950 on: August 08, 2019, 12:25:02 AM »

Offline Mannix

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 563
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1951 on: August 08, 2019, 01:20:16 AM »
Got to love the humor ;D
I have worked closely with batteries all my life, and for the last 15 years with battery charging. I think I know a thing or two about surface charge. I probably have at least one conversation every day about related subjects.
You have to understand how to properly determine the actual capacity of a battery. I have 6 industrial chargers that do that with multiple resistive loads and programing. Once you know the battery's actual capacity then you can do full test runs and see this. This is why I can't do YouTube videos of proper tests that take days or weeks. But I have recorded very long videos.
We are not dealing with surface charge. You may be dealing with desulfating processes, or pushing up voltages on batteries that have no real capacity.
We can run different loads as well. But with batteries you need to run over time when you know what you are doing.

It is astounding that you, of all people would ever need any type of  battery charger.
I would suppose that they are all gathering dust with dried out caps by now .

C'mon Rick the guys here are asking for your best shot at proof even though you and I know that it will be picked apart.

A smart guy like yourself should be able to make a case with the details that conventionaly taught people understand.

That may well give problems for the less educated and vise versa.

So far all of your info is broken, incomplete, with some real but perhaps honest mistakes .

All we have here is a long debate where you win many irrelevant battles but fail in the war department.

Offline a.king21

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1613
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1952 on: August 08, 2019, 03:29:28 AM »
Interesting, why are the cables go underneath and not in the box? :)
Will he proof overunity over the Internet? Will the "experts" now also ask for exact measurements, Scope Shots and calculations?


I think there must be a language barrier here.  Void says his build is not overunity - but I agree that he could have posted a circuit diagram.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1952 on: August 08, 2019, 03:29:28 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline rickfriedrich

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 446
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1953 on: August 08, 2019, 03:31:35 AM »
Chet,
You have to take this in context. We are talking about proofs of demonstration. These need to be proven by ourselves. That's the whole point. These forums are merely about sharing information. People get too hyper about claims. They just need to relax. We live in a day of opinions so there is little grounds for trust anyway.
Feedback on products is a different matter than popularity vote for major world changing things like free energy where there is so much at stake.
You will have to go back and read what was shared and not assume what you write. There are published part numbers, directions, etc. There has been for 15 years. But that's OK to ignore and just repeat the same thing over and over to give a wrong impression.
Again, I choose to share what I did here for various reasons. You guys assume that I have shared here everything that I have shared publicly. Why? I have shared a lot more and very specifically elsewhere. But you guys judge me as if I haven't done that. This proves my point again and again. I have said many times what parts to use and what to do. But here people have mostly aggressively attacked and assumed the worst. They are desperately looking to disprove in any possible way good or bad.
So maybe you should take a little more time and not assume the worst again. You indicated you would act different...

Seaad
 That is a very good starting point
 Trust absolutely no one... if that works for you .
 Prove everything yourself in front of you .


 How do you suggest it be changed ?


Of course what you describe would seem to be unique to this forum
As everywhere on the planet people exchange  and build and share
 And move forward .


 As a point of fact someone sends you something that they charge you for with plans and directions
I would imagine you would expect a refund if it didn’t work?


Here on the Internet word-of-mouth(internet texting) is the single biggest vetting process for consumers
 anything you buy of any value at all ,,,you absolutely rely on Feedback  from satisfied users
you investigate others experiences you look and search everywhere you possibly can for satisfied customers.  Or problems recalls issues etc. etc. etc.


To say ....in my opinion this model Doesn’t work here at this unique particular forum  and several others?
Well that would be amazingly disingenuous
After all there are no published plans ,no part numbers , yes I agree you have to buy the kit and thankfully we have members that have bought the kit and are willing to share the results (Stefan friend)
 so I suppose this is all hearsay or assumption until such a person steps forward with actual feedback from the actual product .
so yes I agree under the terms you describe absolutely 100% you cannot prove anything.


If you refer to your work ? is that what you were referring to?


Since you recently shared it ....the forum  has been an absolute mess
members can’t post
people are afraid to write


Please be brutally honest with exactly what you mean?


Chet

Offline rickfriedrich

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 446
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1954 on: August 08, 2019, 04:13:17 AM »
What is wrong with having battery chargers. Strange to say.

Not sure what is gathering dust. There are many people who have used the industrial chargers 24/7 for 12 years now restoring thousands of batteries.

I'm not looking for recognition. I have shared some very important information here that allows everyone here to have all their energy needs taken care of. You just have to read what has been shared in much detail. If you don't want to read then that's your fault. There are many people reading this thread who do not write here, but share with me privately, and those are who I am sharing this for.

Yes it is a challenge to break up the foundations of prejudice and closemindedness. But I don't believe people fail to understand this. I have learned that people often say differently than what they really believe. You can see how when people avoid subjects that they do understand the truth. It isn't really about knowledge in many cases, but about suppressing the truth for various reasons. I have made many cases here but I get zero response from the attackers. I responded to everything, and so thoroughly that it irritates them. There is no more case to make as there is zero acknowledgement of anything, just ignoring critical points and twisting other points.

It is easy for you to say such words but they are merely empty words. If you have observed something then you need to quote it like everyone else does here. Your words are true in your case here: "So far all of your info is broken, incomplete, with some real but perhaps honest mistakes ." Do you see your contradiction here? And this sort of thing happens again and again. Just repeating empty words with zero content. No positive contribution about OU information. Just subtle attacks through assumptions.

No, you're wrong. I have won in many positive ways. You can't assume people's words are always a real reflection of what is going on inside. There are many people reading that are very happy with what I have shared and are now able to do a lot more. And even when the attackers say one thing it doesn't mean that my words will never benefit them in the future. I trust that at least some of them will benefit down the road. Perhaps a good number are really just trolls trying to get as much information as they can while pretending to not believe. This is a way to draw information out of people. Who can really know what people's motives are specifically here?

The debate was not what people were expecting. They were expecting me to try and prove something with a circuit. But at first I took people back to the foundation of their assumptions. They were really mistaken about thinking they could prove OU claims over the internet. Or disprove such claims in the same way. That is a huge mistake, and that really is settled even if people don't want to admit it.

The other major point was that OU or free energy is not self-running. That was hard for people to let go of. Some still cling to it. Again, I am not slighting people for wanting that and not being interested in anything less than that. That is fine. But it is wrong to call OU ONLY that. Self-running is OU but All OU is not self-running.

Further I challenged the pride of the experts who were not willing to back up their methodology and assumptions. I brought out the founders of electrical engineering, as well as the advanced levels today. I gave a basis for my statements, and I got zero response. This showed that the experts really were just arguing from a very basic (limited context) level of electrical understanding and experience while trying to give another impression. They were not willing to present their foundations because they just wanted to pick at and bully someone else. I am a foundationalist. I'm not going to waste my time bickering about the end result if there is no foundation.

So all of these are foundational points that I have stressed. You would think that people would want to build from the foundations up. But people just want to argue in a circle: I'm right because I'm right. But without a real foundation then what do your words even mean? Why is one model better than another? Also, I showed the self-contradictions of these models. People proved to themselves how their own words contradicted their other words. So there are many important things that I have proven here that are not OU claims. But just because you can't prove an OU claim here, doesn't mean we can't learn about claims and share useful OU information so that they can prove it to themselves. So I am satisfied with that.

It is astounding that you, of all people would ever need any type of  battery charger.
I would suppose that they are all gathering dust with dried out caps by now .

C'mon Rick the guys here are asking for your best shot at proof even though you and I know that it will be picked apart.

A smart guy like yourself should be able to make a case with the details that conventionaly taught people understand.

That may well give problems for the less educated and vise versa.

So far all of your info is broken, incomplete, with some real but perhaps honest mistakes .

All we have here is a long debate where you win many irrelevant battles but fail in the war department.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1954 on: August 08, 2019, 04:13:17 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline rickfriedrich

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 446
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1955 on: August 08, 2019, 04:34:54 AM »
This is just Void of relevance. Obviously he is trying to do the same sort of thing as T was asking me. But here the wires are off the view and he really doesn't tell us anything. Maybe he has a power supply attached? Maybe there is a lithium battery under the black box? Who knows?

Void has posted a circuit which is not overunity. He demonstrates that a battery under load exhibits no visible voltage drop for a whole hour.  Which I suppose we all know.  (I mean I test my circuits 24/7 for weeks lol)
Nonetheless comments would be welcome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI1ZS_2wYR8

Offline tinman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5231
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1956 on: August 08, 2019, 04:35:02 AM »

I think there must be a language barrier here.  Void says his build is not overunity - but I agree that he could have posted a circuit diagram.

Perhaps Rick could also post a circuit diagram for the fan setup.

And how are those efficiency measurements comming along for that fan--the one you accused me of lying about.


Brad

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1956 on: August 08, 2019, 04:35:02 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline a.king21

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1613
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1957 on: August 08, 2019, 04:59:00 AM »
Perhaps Rick could also post a circuit diagram for the fan setup.

And how are those efficiency measurements comming along for that fan--the one you accused me of lying about.


Brad
You've just proved my point.  You know nothing about the efficiency of the fan and neither do I.  However you said it was 50% efficient - which is something you could not have known.  Therefore you made it up. In my book - if you make something up it is a fabrication ie a lie.
It certainly is not scientific - that's for sure.
He has posted a circuit diagram. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0pWApv7jdk&t=11s
That's all anyone needs.


What I find hard to understand is why people do not just take the information freely given and test it out.
Instead their is a barrage of attacks for no reason.
You cannot apply EE theory to this tech.  You have to get into Steinmetz - which enables you to understand Tesla- and then later Barret .


You could start here of course - but I doubt if you can follow it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQnSz_e7jvc&feature=youtu.be

Offline poynt99

  • TPU-Elite
  • Hero Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 3585
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1958 on: August 08, 2019, 04:59:32 AM »
Yeah I have many videos before YouTube, on YouTube, and also not online.
I'm not going to bother posting links for all you want to do is attack me one way or the other. You guys are not in control of me here and I will post and/or make videos when I want and never for you. If I do a video about anything it will be for nice people who actually appreciate me for giving information. Your attitude is obvious Darren, you always assume the worst and like a troll you attempt to insult to get information. Obviously if a battery can be charged up then other loads can be run instead.


Obviously it can drive other loads aside from batteries, and it's also obvious why it won't be shown.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1958 on: August 08, 2019, 04:59:32 AM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline rickfriedrich

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 446
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1959 on: August 08, 2019, 06:29:00 AM »
As I wrote, I am not going to be forced to do anything. I will share what I will when I want and how I want to. You are only looking to accuse and you have no credibility.
I almost included that in the video, but I was trying to be mindful off all the complaints about how long the videos are. I'm not about to make thousands of short videos or people will just get lost in so many. It is not worth it for me to make one short video of that right now, or of the frequency generator being replaced by a coil. You can keep repeating this childish game while you ignore everything I have said and shown but it is obvious why you do that. Like I said, I won't give you the satisfaction of doing what you are trying to force me to do. You can do it yourself. That's all I do videos for. I don't need to show anything because I am not trying to prove anything. I don't need to show anyone how to hook up the wires to another load. You want me to try and prove something with a video. So you miss the point.

Again, why don't you do something constructive rather than just be a useless critic of everything? Always assuming the worst. Oh yeah, you once did something 13 years ago and now you know everything. "it's also obvious why" nothing positive from Darren will "be shown."

Obviously it can drive other loads aside from batteries, and it's also obvious why it won't be shown.

Offline tinman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5231
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1960 on: August 08, 2019, 06:35:50 AM »
You've just proved my point.  You know nothing about the efficiency of the fan and neither do I.  However you said it was 50% efficient - which is something you could not have known.  Therefore you made it up. In my book - if you make something up it is a fabrication ie a lie.
It certainly is not scientific - that's for sure.
He has posted a circuit diagram. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0pWApv7jdk&t=11s
That's all anyone needs.


What I find hard to understand is why people do not just take the information freely given and test it out.
Instead their is a barrage of attacks for no reason.
You cannot apply EE theory to this tech.  You have to get into Steinmetz - which enables you to understand Tesla- and then later Barret .


You could start here of course - but I doubt if you can follow it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQnSz_e7jvc&feature=youtu.be

My claim of 50% efficiency comes from years of experiance working with such fans and motors,where as your accusation of me lying comes from nothing but your own ignorance.

You-like Rick,have no idea as to how to go about measuring the actual efficiency of that fan,where as i could give you an accurate efficiency within 30 minutes of that fan.

So this means that neither you nor Rick has any idea at all as to the efficiency of Ricks fan system,as you don't even know how to measure the fans own efficiency in the first place.

Both yours and Ricks inabilities are starting to shine through,but that is something most of us knew right from the start.

Neither of you even understand what inductive kickback is.
You continue to give it fantasy names like energy from the vacuum,radiant energy,and Ricks best one is--but it energy out of phase with the supply energy. What crap is that?-->out of phase energy lol 3 phase power has 3 lots of energy out of phase with each other-->is this free energy ? Lol.

That is how stupid you two sound--it's  out of phase,so it's free energy.

You and Rick have both led your selves up the garden path.
You have been peddling this garbage for that long your actually starting to believe your own rubbish.

But it's all good.
It won't be long now before you two are exposed for the garbage you are peddling,as my fan is on it's way,and then we will get some accurate power measurements--something you and Rick are incabable of.

You say TK was rightfully moderated for strong language,but yet you feel it is ok to call me a liar without having to provide any evidence at all that i did lie.

The only two trolls in this thread are you and Rick.
You both come here making big claims of OU,and cannot or have not provided one shred of evidence to back up your claims.
Hell,you can't even measure the efficiency of a simple DC fan--nuff said right there.


Brad

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1960 on: August 08, 2019, 06:35:50 AM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline rickfriedrich

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 446
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1961 on: August 08, 2019, 06:39:13 AM »
Why Brad, you already know what it is. Since you said it was around 50% then that MUST be the truth. Like I said, the owner said it was 94%. It really doesn't matter to me as I have used these fans for years and rotated the batteries back and forth. It wouldn't matter if it was 30% or 80% or 94%.
You always avoid the actual point at hand, that the input was reduced and there was added output. In this simple modification we have gain because the coil has a dual purpose which is suppressed by people like you and mainstream theory and practice. Instead of saying, that's cool Rick, you just attack.
If you can't follow instructions then I can't help you. I did a longer video before with the whole process. But you guys just insult me for showing a long video.

Perhaps Rick could also post a circuit diagram for the fan setup.
And how are those efficiency measurements comming along for that fan--the one you accused me of lying about.
Brad

Offline rickfriedrich

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 446
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1962 on: August 08, 2019, 06:54:54 AM »
I'm sure Brad. Prove to us in video that you have such years of experience. Come on. I expect to see that in 5 minutes or you can't do it.  :o
Again, you are just embarrassing yourself. But you just want to distract from the point as I wrote.
All you do is repeat the same all statements over and over again. You never respond to a single point but just call it names. You are being childish Brad. You argue in a circle and set yourself up as the judge and authority. "You can't do this, You can't do that, because Brad said so."  ::)
Nice comparison to 3 phase. Wow!  :o Maybe you mean you were fazed!

My claim of 50% efficiency comes from years of experiance working with such fans and motors,where as your accusation of me lying comes from nothing but your own ignorance.

You-like Rick,have no idea as to how to go about measuring the actual efficiency of that fan,where as i could give you an accurate efficiency within 30 minutes of that fan.

So this means that neither you nor Rick has any idea at all as to the efficiency of Ricks fan system,as you don't even know how to measure the fans own efficiency in the first place.

Both yours and Ricks inabilities are starting to shine through,but that is something most of us knew right from the start.

Offline poynt99

  • TPU-Elite
  • Hero Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 3585
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1963 on: August 08, 2019, 07:03:04 AM »
Again, why don't you do something constructive rather than just be a useless critic of everything?


I can show videos, tests, measurements, and schematics for days. However, I suspect that the blind enthusiasts will dismiss my results unless they are favorable to the cause.


I prefer to utilize my time in productive ways.

Offline poynt99

  • TPU-Elite
  • Hero Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 3585
Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1964 on: August 08, 2019, 08:03:16 AM »
And on that note, this will be my last post in this thread; I have those productive tasks to tend to, and I'm sure Stefan has his finger on the moderation trigger aimed my way anyway.


I wish you the best in all Rick, and I hope we can part with no animosity (there is none from me anyway).


Its been......well lets leave it at that.


Cheers.

 

OneLink