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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 542739 times)

gyulasun

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1845 on: August 02, 2019, 12:51:42 PM »
Just fiddled around for some hour.
Ohh, remember nothing can be proved at this forum . . . . .
Hi Seaad,
Regardless,  feel free to share any more details you wish on how you arrived at to find efficiency > 1 ?   8)
Thanks,
Gyula

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1846 on: August 02, 2019, 01:01:04 PM »
It seems seaad is developping a RESONATOR type EM-Ranque-Hilsch-tube  !


seaad

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1847 on: August 02, 2019, 01:05:08 PM »
Measurements  Input: V x I x cos angle  Output:  U2/R    n=Output/Input (watts)
NO LED's !   ;D ;D
Arne

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1848 on: August 02, 2019, 01:08:43 PM »
 8) by the end you develop the compressorfree magnetocaloric fridge( counterpart to the microwave owen) ;)
BTW: testing the device in cold ambient ( freezer/fridge) and before/after measurements results comparison ?

 Is positive voltage electricity hotter/ colder than negative voltage electricity ?
When there is no negative power factor phase ? In AC current is ever also DC participating

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19981001&CC=TW&NR=342155U&KC=U#
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=47&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880712&CC=US&NR=4757419A&KC=A#


ramset

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1849 on: August 02, 2019, 02:05:00 PM »
Seaad, Talking with a few builders on your other topic,[a few topics actually]
seems this should get its own thread ?  lately in this thread tsunami's  of text show up and push things into the abyss .
what are you calling this device ?[category ??
??LancaIV writes It seems seaad is developping a RESONATOR type EM-Ranque-Hilsch-tube ??
 thx Chet

Raycathode

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1850 on: August 02, 2019, 02:24:34 PM »
Seaad, Talking with a few builders on your other topic,[a few topics actually]
seems this should get its own thread ?  lately in this thread tsunami's  of text show up and push things into the abyss .
what are you calling this device ?[category ??
??LancaIV writes It seems seaad is developping a RESONATOR type EM-Ranque-Hilsch-tube ??
 thx Chet
Hi guys the last time i saw this device was in the 80s at a Bristol Siddeley convention now RR, on a NASA film clip where they wanted to find a way of testing for a planets or asteroids gravity or magnetic qualities they more or less showed how to make this type of harvester. You might still find the clip on youtube.

The open ended box was just a paxolin or cardboard former with a winding around it, rather than metallic I presume.

Regards Raymondo
« Last Edit: August 02, 2019, 05:32:00 PM by Raycathode »

Raycathode

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1851 on: August 02, 2019, 02:33:14 PM »
8) by the end you develop the compressorfree magnetocaloric fridge( counterpart to the microwave owen) ;)
BTW: testing the device in cold ambient ( freezer/fridge) and before/after measurements results comparison ?

 Is positive voltage electricity hotter/ colder than negative voltage electricity ?
When there is no negative power factor phase ? In AC current is ever also DC participating

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19981001&CC=TW&NR=342155U&KC=U#
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=47&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880712&CC=US&NR=4757419A&KC=A#
Hmm seen this some where else too on Daily thread talk to Grumage, it's going back a few years now.

Raycathode

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1852 on: August 02, 2019, 02:42:10 PM »
Chet with all what i will refer to as 'levity' is not my way, i'm asking will Stefan be returning the 'Guys' back to the 'Forum'? any time soon ?
to me truth would be consistency of the direct 'as you would say christian values.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2019, 05:43:59 PM by Raycathode »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1853 on: August 02, 2019, 03:28:52 PM »
 Raymundo
 Generic statements ofter no clarity , what truth do you refer to ? take the bull by the horn‘s
 What are you actually saying ?


 Your last two posts or three posts could definitely use some focus and clarity
I apologize if you’re  native tongue is not the Queens English .


 Astroid planet  gravity field flavor shavers ??
Feel free ?
Your comment on seaad contribution ?
 Is this your information ?









TinselKoala

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1854 on: August 02, 2019, 03:57:33 PM »
Measurements  Input: V x I x cos angle  Output:  U2/R    n=Output/Input (watts)
NO LED's !   ;D ;D
Arne
I refer you to my video of testing the Partzman Bifilar Transformer.

Raycathode

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1855 on: August 02, 2019, 05:16:56 PM »
Raymundo
 Generic statements ofter no clarity , what truth do you refer to ? take the bull by the horn‘s
 What are you actually saying ?


 Your last two posts or three posts could definitely use some focus and clarity
I apologize if you’re  native tongue is not the Queens English .


 Astroid planet  gravity field flavor shavers ??
Feel free ?
Your comment on seaad contribution ?
 Is this your information ?
Yes, but i refer to the unstableness of none clarity of the situation you guys appear to be finding on this thread
with everything up in the air, so i guess truth would be in the reality of us the users being in sync with this threads teacher guys your hosting here ie being able to have a solid foundation to do so and move forward would be truth in my way of thinking.

Regards Raymondo

Raycathode

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1856 on: August 02, 2019, 06:02:44 PM »
I'm actually working on a device Jb style with a row or Neo magnets mounted on square steel section over a steel threaded section all north on one side and south on the other side but no slip rings used, instead I used 2 hall effect this gives a half circle magnetic effect that changes over every 180 deg. the circuit is a JB design that's supposed to recharge the battery. Unfortunately this design does not give any null point (dead zone) considering it's supposed to be an over unity generator ! It cant do both at the same time. I don't thing its funny !!

Raymondo

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1857 on: August 02, 2019, 06:13:20 PM »
 Raymundo
 I think I get the gist of what you’re trying to say
 It’s your assumptions that perhaps need focus
 
Here  very recently in this topic ....with every post I write To the other man.( whose name I will not write)(text Tsunami might manifest)
I fully expect to be moderated ,  I say that because my discussion with him was not a technical discussion at all.
 My discussion was totally and completely a moral discussion .
 Our only host here is Stefan  every single reader including all moderators are only guests .


 Here you may be witnessing those who persevere over the decades have become acquainted at some level .
 
And Are completely autonomous of any forum venue.
 But the forum  is the best venue in my opinion ,if one truly has at their heart ...open source .
 And a public forum like this with open membership ,Stephen has to advertise to subsidize the effort it takes here
All of his time for many years now.
 It is a big effort when the forum has open membership and needs attention regularly .
Believe me I don’t think this venue is a path to great wealth ,based on just advertising revenue.


 Yes it would be nice to have a benchmark place to move forward from and actually do real science
I feel we turn a page  here
 Others have a different opinion and feel I am foolish .


 I love this place and all the people ,And honestly .... even the man whom I confronted here recently.


What an absolute delight it was though to see the builders stick together,Even those who were disgusted by this! ( from both sides of this )
And the beautiful part is the door is always open for sharing and discussion.


 Nobody ever ever ever gets to say something doesn’t work here without proof
 And of course we like to test claims people make , So I guess the opposite is true also .


100% transparency it is the only way forward and brutal honesty or the scientific method

 And I don’t think that is just one man’s opinion
Respectfully
Chet


ramset

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1858 on: August 02, 2019, 08:06:52 PM »
 
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   I'm actually working on a device Jb style with a row or Neo magnets mounted on square steel section over a steel threaded section all north on one side and south on the other side but no slip rings used, instead I used 2 hall effect this gives a half circle magnetic effect that changes over every 180 deg. the circuit is a JB design that's supposed to recharge the battery. Unfortunately this design does not give any null point (dead zone) considering it's supposed to be an over unity generator ! It cant do both at the same time. I don't thing its funny !!

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 Raymondo
 You see this problem you’re having right now
Seems you purchased information or read information or whatever??
 and assumed a result which you are not experiencing on the bench
 And yes it’s not funny


Would you have preferred that you could have researched this information here at this forum where experimenters  have done the experiments and share the results openly for others to compare
perhaps have learned not to waste your time there if that is indeed what you are saying I’m not certain?


 For clarity no such information is available anywhere to my knowledge
That is to say such a database supported by a group of membership that is available if need be to engage .....or perhaps through representatives to engage (ask questions)?


This is my dream for this venue
 and all these builders being helped by this community to do other experiments ...real science perhaps?
 in my opinion with all our resources and connections to universities scientists  EE,s  specialists in all fields and amazingly gifted builders worldwide


 Stephen has a tiger by the tail ..and can bring his mission statement to fruition.




 Here we have thousands of YouTube and other kinds of videos that need to be categorized
 Persons who have very good test equipment and show and share their results.
 With Complete transparency for discussion.... always
 In case something was missed ?


What you witnessed here these last weeks were many of those same person’s  and there need to be sure nothing was missed on their own benches
Others are more confident perhaps much more experienced but always ask for enough detail to experience this claim  themselves
 Here it is a system of checks and balances so no one person can take the stage and make a claim which holds no water , For or against a claim .
 If the forum has that kind of reputation  that is to say where nothing is dismissed without proof
there is little concern for Hidden agendas of secrecy ....  or similar nonsense claims.
Some  one will find a way if they are frightened of release themselves to get the information to others to investigate or try  or at least discuss .
 And that needs to happen in a venue where there are many men of like mind For checks and balances so that no one man once again holds all the information of the claim and it is  discussed within a group of like-minded individuals .
Here I  emphasize an open source venue.


 Here we can build such a place and maximize our time and efforts
 And we have plenty of good builders with much experience to help vet claims


As a community ...I feel and have always felt those builders need to be helped in some way
 So as to not carry so much burden themselves When they work for the benefit of all.


 There are a few things right now from these last few days that need a more thorough explanation


You have to understand this will be a lot of work for Stephen ....to make a section where members teaching videos Are shared or discussed


Perhaps someone has an algorithm which can input questions into a database of videos ??
I am unaware of such , however I am certain it exists .


 Sorry for such a long post but we need to fix this and move forward .


 I am not certain this is just one man’s opinion














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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1859 on: August 02, 2019, 08:35:18 PM »
Rick has posted OU builds.  People are just not listening.
Here he demonstrates what he has always said - namely that when modifying one of hs fans, there is no diminution in output power by the fan yet he can charge a second battery.  He uses a meter to prove his point.


Yet no comment from super qualified EEs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0pWApv7jdk&t=1s


I believe you can keep rotating the batteries if you wish.