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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 286984 times)

Offline citfta

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1770 on: July 31, 2019, 04:59:31 PM »
Hi you lot  :D lets stand back a moment and ask what are the risks ir Rick F comes out and declares full blown that he has free energy devices in kit form for sail hmm?

This site is open to any one to view on the plant, and only recently John Badini and his brother have left the planet under mysterious
circumstances and then you have Steven Greer talking about free energy devices being directly related to the existence of ET's and anti gravity and the 'Men in Black' appearing out of know where in open spaces and using so called death threats
and inventors disappearing or eradicated ect.
I mean would you behave much different to Rick Richard M Fried Hmm for F sake ? be realistic so if it works or not you ain't going
to get proof with the way things are! :-X
That's strange idea to post since Rick has already said in his video that you could power the input with the power from one of the outputs.  So he is already claiming OU.  But he refuses to offer any evidence to support that claim.  I am not doubting there are those that don't want free energy or OU to be widely available to the masses.  But Rick's videos so far don't support his claims of OU so I don't think he has anything to worry about.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1770 on: July 31, 2019, 04:59:31 PM »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1771 on: July 31, 2019, 05:01:52 PM »
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VOID:  I can tell you this. If I had a setup which I thought was showing OU, I would 100% try to self-loop it. 

Here I got som tip's from lancaIV once:

https://overunity.com/17279/split-flux-transformer/msg528437/#msg528437
https://overunity.com/17279/split-flux-transformer/msg528443/#msg528443

And I started to build and test these.


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Today I have conducted some tests with the aim of better accuracy and comparison.

1) I did first a test with the original 5 leg trafo measured with both my Fluke multimeter and with my Oscilloscope. See below.

2) Then a test with a Special 5 leg trafo where the two cross flux legs (U-cores) are fitted between the primarys and the secondary.
This rises the output voltage but lower the OU effect!

3) And at last a test with a normal transformer konfig,.

All tests are at 10 kHz.  And the load resistos are chosen so they reduces the free "swinging" output voltage to about halv  that voltage,  in all tests.

1a)  5-leg               FLUKE      IN:  1,95 V   0,95 mA     74 degrees        OUT:  1,162 V    107,1 %                        10KHz      Load 2469 Ohm
1b)  5-leg               SCOPE     IN:  3,4 V     3,4   mA     74 degrees        OUT:  2,04 V      105,8 %     1,68 mW      10 kHz     Load 2469 Ohm

2)   5-leg  Special   SCOPE     IN:  3,37 V  3,0 mA       70,4 degrees      OUT:  2,72 V      104,75 %    3,56 mW      10 kHz     Load 2080 Ohm

3)   Normal trafo    SCOPE     IN:  3,11 V  10,85 mA    58,25 degrees   OUT:  2,99 V       98,9  %      17,56 mW     10 kHz     Load 509 Ohm
 
                                                                                                                      percent Efficiency


I tried to loop 1 a, b) with a single BC -transistor after that (but I don't remember exactly how).
 Kick started it with a short sinus burst and it oscillated then for 15-30 seconds.

The two input primaries (5-legged trafo) can be series or parallel
All coils 100+100 turns,  0.3 mm (#28).
(And it dosn't matter that the coils are much wider than the cores, only for test purposes here. Tighter is better of course)
Cores : KÖNIG ELECTRONIC FAT100, Smooth blank ferrite

This is confirmation-of-OU-devices-and-claims
Is this OU? Try it!

Regards Arne

N.B.  No LED's !!!

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1772 on: July 31, 2019, 05:31:03 PM »
In all fairness, and giving the benefit of doubt to RF, I believe his statement from the video says that he can power the _frequency generator_ with output from one or several receiver coils. But recall that the FG is just supplying the clock signal to the mosfet driver chip, yes? And the main power being switched by the mosfet driver chip is coming from a power supply or battery, am I right?

So the claim isn't actually a claim of complete self looping, if he isn't claiming to power the _whole system_ from just the output of a few coils. That is, if I am interpreting his statement correctly. All he is claiming is that the frequency generator itself can be so powered.


But I still don't think he can do even that.


Please correct me if I am wrong! I would be very happy if RF is actually claiming to be able to run the whole system from the output of one or several receiver coils... because I know for sure he certainly cannot do that!

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Offline Raycathode

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1773 on: July 31, 2019, 05:32:15 PM »
Well this works Dr Sriffler used this device at one stage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DmAyYhnRgc
I even got it to work with a sig gen and some leds and some re wound Ferox surplus ferrite rods, some of the other guys at work were impressed.

Raymondo

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1774 on: July 31, 2019, 05:48:20 PM »
Got what to work? I didn't see anything remarkable or unusual in that video, other than the rather...er... sketchy measurement methodology. And of course the schematic does not seem to be available any more at the given link.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9wxuRZV-Ro

But is it OU?

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1775 on: July 31, 2019, 06:05:51 PM »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1776 on: July 31, 2019, 06:37:39 PM »
This video is a lot longer than I usually like to present, at 14:20. It is relevant here for a number of reasons. Topic, presentation, details, measurements, explanations, scoposcopy, et cetera. Anyone skilled in the art can replicate fully from the information in this one video.

The original circuit and the effect are from forum member Aye-Aye. Here I demonstrate the Aye-Aye Negative Charging effect, and use it to demonstrate a few items of scoposcopy, in addition to explaining where the charging is coming from. Although I do not demonstrate it in this video, there is enough power coming in for a high-efficiency boost converter-battery charger chip to accumulate it for practical use... like lighting up a LED or two.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUMb6e6QQIA

But.... is it OU?




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Offline Void

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1777 on: July 31, 2019, 06:45:52 PM »
In all fairness, and giving the benefit of doubt to RF, I believe his statement from the video says that he can power the _frequency generator_ with output from one or several receiver coils. But recall that the FG is just supplying the clock signal to the mosfet driver chip, yes? And the main power being switched by the mosfet driver chip is coming from a power supply or battery, am I right?
So the claim isn't actually a claim of complete self looping, if he isn't claiming to power the _whole system_ from just the output of a few coils. That is, if I am interpreting his statement correctly. All he is claiming is that the frequency generator itself can be so powered.
But I still don't think he can do even that.
Please correct me if I am wrong! I would be very happy if RF is actually claiming to be able to run the whole system from the output of one or several receiver coils... because I know for sure he certainly cannot do that!

Hi TK. It's all pointless, as it is clear that Rick will avoid any sort of proper testing and
measurements which would determine how his setup is really performing. We will have to wait for
Stefan and his friend to possibly do a demo it seems, and hopefully they will avoid using LEDs and
at least use small 1 to 3 Watt or so incandescent bulbs, and also attempt to self-loop it to see
how it performs in a self-looped arrangement.

All the best...


Offline rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1778 on: July 31, 2019, 06:49:59 PM »
POINTS HAVING BEEN PROVEN SINCE JUNE 2019:

1. OU Claims and Disproof OU Claims Cannot be Proven Over Video, Pictures, and Words Over the Internet. People Can Only do Science and Prove Truths of Demonstration to Themselves In The Real World.

2. Forums Can Only Provide Information to Other People which Needs Personal Verification Unless it is Self-evident.

3. Free Energy and Over Unity Do Not Imply Self-running or Self-looping, while the Inverse is True.


These points are settled because of my contribution to this forum. This is no small contribution. They are fundamentals to energy forums which most people have been mistaken on since the beginning of the Internet. Some of you are still contradicting these truths directly and indirectly and are wasting everyone's time with your assumptions otherwise. I have not been given any credit for pointing these things out and have instead been subjected to coordinated personal attacks. Little if no retractions have been made by people who have contradicted these points which means thousands of posts have filled this thread based upon faulty assumptions that contradict these. Each person that continues to stand by their contradictions in these and related matters and is not willing to admit they have been fundamentally wrong is insincere and no doubt a troublemaker.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1779 on: July 31, 2019, 07:17:18 PM »
You have mistaken assumptions. There is a difference between ideal or advanced systems and simple beginner systems. I deal with all levels of people in this research. People here do not even believe in Over unity and only know basic level math and engineering (I have seen no evidence from anyone otherwise). While batteries take a little longer to evaluate, they are easy to use for many experiments. They are different than capacitors which are not suitable substitutes.
Your statement that "plenty here have done battery swapping experiments could never see a Magic gain when hooked up to appropriate equipment" means very little to me considering that you all have been wrong in these:
POINTS HAVING BEEN PROVEN SINCE JUNE 2019:
1. OU Claims and Disproof OU Claims Cannot be Proven Over Video, Pictures, and Words Over the Internet. People Can Only do Science and Prove Truths of Demonstration to Themselves In The Real World.
2. Forums Can Only Provide Information to Other People which Needs Personal Verification Unless it is Self-evident.
3. Free Energy and Over Unity Do Not Imply Self-running or Self-looping, while the Inverse is True.

Thousands of people all over the world have had gains from battery systems long before you people made attempts. I have addressed why people fail to understand their own meters and mistakes with using batteries in great detail. Go back and read to find the answers.

My systems are many and I have addressed several here. They are not limited to batteries. Several of you have lumped everything I have said into one system, but that just shows you are not paying attention.

Rick when this topic hit the forum..it had nothing to do with batteries AKing told us you had soosed ? or sorted Don Smith...and kapenadze
etc etc ?maybe even the TPU..?
this was the secret to all these devices? nothing at all about needing batteries [was my impression]
plenty here have done battery swapping experiments .could never see a Magic gain when hooked up to appropriate equipment ?
that being said ,yes it is easy to juggle batteries ...let them rest and work within battery friendly load conditions and not have to charge them as much .
..one member commented that this cycling of batteries was an old Ham radio trick from many years ago.  ...So we buy more batteries to run big loads ?
how many to run a 1KW load ?[continuous ??}
since now its about the batteries ..

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1780 on: July 31, 2019, 07:25:12 PM »
People are wondering where I am. Well I really don't have the time for this right now. I only lingered on for so long here because I had to bring things to a completion. I spent way more time on all this than I should have. I don't regret it, but I have too much business to attend to to worry about these little children playing games. It's been really funny at times. But it just goes nowhere. If I come back in another 5 years I'm sure everyone will be exactly in the same places as before. Maybe moved on to another personality.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1781 on: July 31, 2019, 07:27:13 PM »
Another reason for using those LEDs I have mentioned before, is that they show sensitive changes. My objective was not OU demonstration with this kit but was for people to learn the topological relationships that T. W. Barrett addressed that were truncated from the original Maxwell equations. Skeptics here just want to limit themselves to the truncated math and linear relationships while pretending to be open to over unity science. The LED works fine for seeing subtle changes. And once you understand that you can move on to bigger systems. But jumping ahead without taking the time to learn the principles of free energy will get you nowhere.

Again an assumption without any facts.  If you could be BOTHERED to go to the video, Rick disconnects his camera and does closeups on the coils so you can see the leds lit.


And here is another fact. Rick's leds are much dimmer than comparable leds, which is why I swapped them for superbright leds.
However Rick's leds are more durable.  I have only lost one of Rick's leds but several superbright ones.  If you make a supposedly scientific comment then you should double check your science or you do not come over as credible.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1782 on: July 31, 2019, 07:27:58 PM »
POINTS HAVING BEEN PROVEN SINCE JUNE 2019:
1. OU Claims and Disproof OU Claims Cannot be Proven Over Video, Pictures, and Words Over the Internet. People Can Only do Science and Prove Truths of Demonstration to Themselves In The Real World.
2. Forums Can Only Provide Information to Other People which Needs Personal Verification Unless it is Self-evident.
3. Free Energy and Over Unity Do Not Imply Self-running or Self-looping, while the Inverse is True.

These points are settled because of my contribution to this forum. This is no small contribution. They are fundamentals to energy forums which most people have been mistaken on since the beginning of the Internet. Some of you are still contradicting these truths directly and indirectly and are wasting everyone's time with your assumptions otherwise. I have not been given any credit for pointing these things out and have instead been subjected to coordinated personal attacks. Little if no retractions have been made by people who have contradicted these points which means thousands of posts have filled this thread based upon faulty assumptions that contradict these. Each person that continues to stand by their contradictions in these and related matters and is not willing to admit they have been fundamentally wrong is insincere and no doubt a troublemaker.

Hi Rick. All the false and misleading statements and deflections and excuses in the world will not
ever change the facts of the situation. Unless proper measurements or self-looping testing is done, then the
actual performance of any such setups remains unknown. The use of LED lights in such an arrangement is no
real practical help at all. If it is claimed that the LED lights are consuming about 1 Watt or more, then
there should be no reason that those LED lights can't be replaced with 1 to 3 Watt incandescent bulbs.
I have posted a weblink here to a web store which sells such small incandescent bulbs.

Resistance is futile... the truth will prevail. Only proper testing will show how these setups really perform. ;)

P.S. If you or others are not making any claims about seeing more average power out than the average input power
with such a setup, then I don't understand what the point is here.
This is overunity.com, and this is an open source forum. :)


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1783 on: July 31, 2019, 07:32:14 PM »
Take the time to type in "red herring fallacy" into google and see. This is what you continually do.


How can an image of YOUR POSTS be a "fallacy"?  Seek help, Rick.
Meanwhile, either demonstrate the truth of this claim, or admit that it is false:

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1784 on: July 31, 2019, 07:39:44 PM »
Void,
I have addressed these points many times and again today. You of all people should not talk about proper LED measurements when you blundered so bad the other week. You need to come to grips with this still:
POINTS HAVING BEEN PROVEN SINCE JUNE 2019:
1. OU Claims and Disproof OU Claims Cannot be Proven Over Video, Pictures, and Words Over the Internet. People Can Only do Science and Prove Truths of Demonstration to Themselves In The Real World.
2. Forums Can Only Provide Information to Other People which Needs Personal Verification Unless it is Self-evident.
3. Free Energy and Over Unity Do Not Imply Self-running or Self-looping, while the Inverse is True.


Quote from: rickfriedrich on Today at 06:15:37 AM
"You guys are just against OU."
Hi Rick. That is just plain silly. Actually, members here who have a lot of experience at analyzing circuits have made it clear that without proper measurements there is just no way to really know how those circuits are actually performing. Really though, there should be no reason why these setups can't be self-looped, as that is a no nonsense test which separates the wheat from the chaff.

I can tell you this. If I had a setup which I thought was showing OU, I would 100% try to self-loop it.
I would do this because I am actually interested in knowing what the actual truth is. It really should be relatively simple to setup, and you have said yourself in one of your videos that self-looping your setup should be able to self-power your generator.

Any demonstration using LEDs and which does not at least show proper measurements is pretty much pointless. Is that really so hard for people to understand? It should really be self-evident here.

 

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