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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 536723 times)

ramset

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1710 on: July 30, 2019, 02:26:44 PM »
Stefan if your friends won't share their work here [seems none of Ricks students will either ...]maybe put a budget to this and we'll pick a builder to fund .
and do it here .100% transparent energy audit .even let Rick pick the builder !!
end of story..
EDIT HHmm  here member Tito dropped off a related PDF he says keeps getting removed ?http://www.borderlands.de/Links/Free_Energy_Multiplier.pdf
Tito is another member professing Christian values ...by keeping secrets ...[is it ten years now ??]
I never heard this about Christianity until I read Tito ...and now it seems contagious ...a new face here.
No lives matter .. when everything is good at Tito's house and....  the lives who can Pay ?? ...at ...
somebody plays God here ...but its definitely not member Poynt

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1711 on: July 30, 2019, 03:49:59 PM »
Guys, regarding statements about a circuit setup which can supposedly improve efficiency when powering
12V fans or 12V light bulbs, if you power 12V light bulbs or 12V fans from a 12V battery directly
with no circuitry in between, then you are powering those loads with essentially 100% efficiency.
(Regarding fans, assuming the electric motor in the fan already has suitable power factor correction in place.)

The only way an intervening magic circuit X can improve on 100% efficiency is if your magic circuit X
produces a COP > 1. There is no other way to improve on a setup which is already essentially 100% efficient.
See the attached graphic for illustration of what I am saying. :)

If some given magic circuit X is really COP > 1 of any significance, then you should be able to self loop the setup so it self sustains.
All the excuses and deflections in the world won't change these plain and straight forward facts.


WhatIsIt

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1712 on: July 30, 2019, 04:07:46 PM »
Until this morning I did not know that Mr. Gear is R&D Simens. His deparment has 136 employes.
They already this Rick motor test with AC source in the past.
I will not go into details of reactive power, which in Ricks case splits, returning power to battery and motor.
Reactive power returned to motor will increase RPM which results with more output to load which has to be capacitive or inductive. More power to load creates more reactive power and loop is created. It can go to some point.
Sorry, but no OU.
It is better than simple transformer feedback loop but still no OU.
It is replica of big systems of power companies where they use expensive motor/generators for compensation of reactive power and returning power back to grid. More complicated because their generators are AC and phase align is needed for power to be returned to grid.
Rick uses DC battery and simple rectification does do job.

When he saw Ricks video, he laughs and he pointed some things and has banned for that.
He still laughs.

So it is not new thing, power companies use it for a long time.
Rick has to have caps on load to make reactive power.

He said he wish the best to Rick and he has more serious projects to do.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1713 on: July 30, 2019, 04:23:57 PM »
Until this morning I did not know that Mr. Gear is R&D Simens. His deparment has 136 employes.
They already this Rick motor test with AC source in the past.
I will not go into details of reactive power, which in Ricks case splits, returning power to battery and motor.
Reactive power returned to motor will increase RPM which results with more output to load which has to be capacitive or inductive. More power to load creates more reactive power and loop is created. It can go to some point.
Sorry, but no OU.
It is better than simple transformer feedback loop but still no OU.
It is replica of big systems of power companies where they use expensive motor/generators for compensation of reactive power and returning power back to grid. More complicated because their generators are AC and phase align is needed for power to be returned to grid.
Rick uses DC battery and simple rectification does do job.

When he saw Ricks video, he laughs and he pointed some things and has banned for that.
He still laughs.

So it is not new thing, power companies use it for a long time.
Rick has to have caps on load to make reactive power.

He said he wish the best to Rick and he has more serious projects to do.
I have just read all of Gear's posts.  Telling Rick off in swear words is not the dignity I  would expect from the head of Siemens R and D.
He should be fired if that is his attitude.




WhatIsIt

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1714 on: July 30, 2019, 04:27:19 PM »
At the consumer side.
We all know if we do power correction of motor with capacitor it must have exact value to do that.
If it is too small motor will consume too much.
If it is to big, it will create to much reactive power. Thats the trick.

seaad

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1715 on: July 30, 2019, 04:40:17 PM »
Power measurements without current probe.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1716 on: July 30, 2019, 04:40:45 PM »
I think the problem here is that nobody show the path to convert high Q into high reactive power and then this reactive power to real output power, basically converting the Q into real gain. also nobody explained how this could be possible. I've found two  reasons

WhatIsIt

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1717 on: July 30, 2019, 04:59:32 PM »
I have just read all of Gear's posts.  Telling Rick off in swear words is not the dignity I  would expect from the head of Siemens R and D.
He should be fired if that is his attitude.

My dear,

You an Rick will never get a job in Siemens.
The whole deparment of 136 people are laughing and making jokes of you two!

Enjoy until proper measurement will be taken. Then state same thing.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1718 on: July 30, 2019, 05:14:45 PM »
http://www.patent-de.com/19860717/DE3501076A1.html
What does "Mr.gear" think about it ?
Dr. Dipl. -Ing Wolfgang Volkrodt ( befreundet gewesen mit einem Herrn Dr. Klaus von Klitzing,Kiel)
 https://www.google.com/search?q=dr.wolfgang+volkrodt&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1719 on: July 30, 2019, 05:21:48 PM »
Mr. Gear is head of department. He makes the call who gets fired.
It was his decision to look into this. One of many before.
He sends to you both best regards.
He will tell you and others all of this in person but he was moderated because of number of clicks and not real quest of OU. That are his words.
He called Ricks thread bunch of ignorant people without any knowledge.
He means probably you and Rick. But thats only what I think.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1720 on: July 30, 2019, 05:34:05 PM »
By companies like Siemens( spanish:Ximenez) also "Abteilungsleiter" can become fired or get with 55 years their"golden handshake' ( Fruehrente ::) ).
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deutsches-museum.de%2Fsammlungen%2Fmeisterwerke%2Fmeisterwerke-iii%2Fdynamomaschine%2F
The dynamo-principle ( Siemens also a Physics-unit)

WhatIsIt

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1721 on: July 30, 2019, 05:36:19 PM »
http://www.patent-de.com/19860717/DE3501076A1.html
What does "Mr.gear" think about it ?


Mr. Gear was moderated because he has means and men power to quickly check all of the claims which is not good for attendance of forum and number of clicks.
While moderated he can not answer to you. He has no access to this forum and he does not think of opening another account. This tale is over for him. Thats what he said.

I liked him. He has sharpness like Mr. Tinsel and knowledge, and probably gear and tech I never saw in my life.
I am still in contact, but I am little fish for him.

He only replied because I contacted him first when I saw potential in that man.

Thats it.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1722 on: July 30, 2019, 05:57:31 PM »
What I learned from Mr. Gear mails is:

From 30 years of R&D experience, only transient math scope power measurements are valid.
Everything else leads to some kind of error, and missbeliveve of OU.

Most of the time people does not care for phase angle which can bring power down to zero while has great amplitude of voltage.

Only people which repeat that here are Mr. Void and Mr.Itsu and nobody listen.

You can not measure power with V meter and A meter. Only in smooth DC, but everything else, oscillations or square wave or you name it is transient in nature and complex to measure.

I will thank the man who teached me this. He knows to whom I refer. Great man!
Thank you!

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1723 on: July 30, 2019, 06:28:03 PM »
I think the problem here is that nobody show the path to convert high Q into high reactive power and then this reactive power to real output power, basically converting the Q into real gain. also nobody explained how this could be possible. I've found two  reasons

Reactive power is reflected power from load to source. Overloading the source.
Reactive power is produced from inductive and capacitive load.
By putting to much capacitance parallel to motor you will create more reactive power which goes back to source. That is only one example how to create reactive power.

Try to put in series capacitor and inductor in AC circuit. They must have certain values to resonate.
You will see how much reactive power you can produce.
Your source will explode if not managed with power correction systems.
It is not hard to produce reactive power. It is hard to manage it and feed back to system without any damage.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1724 on: July 30, 2019, 06:47:42 PM »
All of this you have on youtube.
Search for reactive power and power correction systems.
Very simple stuff.
Also phase angle related to power.
You can have phase angle and no power or phase of voltage and current aligned for max power.
Thats the stuff fot begginers.

And there is no other way to calculate this without scope, voltage and current probe.
Average power math. The only way. Just as Mr. Void repeat to you always.

Everything else is fairytale.