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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 536491 times)

a.king21

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1665 on: July 29, 2019, 04:32:06 AM »

Rick made an interesting claim: Resonance is a gain. In a series resonance circuit the input amperage remains the same as the circulating current in  the resonant coil. At the same time the voltage inside the resonant coil goes higher up to 144 times. So a simple V x A = watts indicates OU of course.
So my question to myself was," What experiment can I devise to attempt to prove the claim" ( Notice I am being positive folks).

What experiment can you think of??

Well here it is:

I used the principle of oscillating current  as promulgated by Benitez.

So I attached one leg of the ac side of a bridge rectifier to the high voltage side of RICK's TX  coil and the other leg to earth ground.  Then I attached the positive and negative sides to a 12 volt 7 amp hour battery and it charged very nicely.  I do not have the correct measuring skills to see if there is a gain - but to those interested I enclose a pic and encourage you to do the experiment.
It is 3 am and time for shut eye,  I may develop the measuring skills tomorrow when i have time to think about it.
Oh and I was able to keep the device in resonance as I extracted real power out of it.
I make no apologies for the size of the pic as you need the details.
And it still lit up the RX without diminution........


Meanwhile those unicorns.....
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lancaIV

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1666 on: July 29, 2019, 10:52:26 AM »
a.king,here lecture ,I give special attention to [0012] "...... undesired(desired !)......" and [0024] "resonance" ?!
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=TW&NR=200727310A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=20070716&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#

and here ( one time more) :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5264988A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19931123&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#
60 Watt nominal lamp : 130 Volt x 200 Amperes "cold energy"
  26000 VpiApi / 60 Watt : 433 times the nominal value = "EMP stroke power"
capacitor: stroke power re-/charge pumping process device

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1667 on: July 29, 2019, 12:13:33 PM »
I think a good example of the huge power that the Rick Friedrich circuit delivers is this video:

https://youtu.be/6he58A5xTIQ?t=1562


at around 30 minutes in it, where several high power LED bulbs are lighted up

and the voltage from the batteries did not change during the whole demonstration..


So this is pretty exiting and my friend confirms it in his replication.

Regards, Stefan.

Raycathode

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1668 on: July 29, 2019, 01:36:09 PM »
a.king,here lecture ,I give special attention to [0012] "...... undesired(desired !)......" and [0024] "resonance" ?!
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=TW&NR=200727310A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=20070716&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#

and here ( one time more) :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5264988A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19931123&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#
60 Watt nominal lamp : 130 Volt x 200 Amperes "cold energy"
  26000 VpiApi / 60 Watt : 433 times the nominal value = "EMP stroke power"
capacitor: stroke power re-/charge pumping process device
Thanks Stefan and yes i did watch the 'clip' but found it difficult to concentrate getting much information with all the back ground and recording noise, perhaps others will collect more, hopefully to share.

One point of interest was the 'host guy in the lense focus mentioned 'negative energy' and put the LED lamp into a beaker of cold water, what most of us want to know is how exactly is 'cold' electricity made ??? and what is it??
this information always appears to be avoided or hidden can some one who knows please explain what it actually is ??

regards   Raymondo.

PS the editor appears to have a problem with CR and LF it appears to mix them up witch is annoying and a never ending circle trying to compensate for :) :)

lancaIV

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1669 on: July 29, 2019, 02:30:58 PM »
"cold energy( here not meaning " cold electricity")" is normally "radiant energy" ( specially IR/UR temperature-free emission during the transmission) but stimulating this radiation receiving mass !
https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Radiant_energy
( tools also L. A. S. E. R and M. A. S. E. R.  )

heat/mass relationship : "... It is not generally recognized.... "
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20010710&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#

Also important for permanent magnet- free motors and generators !

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1670 on: July 29, 2019, 04:49:12 PM »
Thanks Stefan,
As you may remember me contacting you in Germany, we first started showing that in Hamburg Germany 5 years ago. That particular setup was used for several months prior to power over 1000W of lights in his shop and office in Friedrichshafen while the input remained the same. While the specific parts are not disclosed I have shared the basic level of doing this as well as pointed in the direction of the Tesla one wire teaching to show people the several options of doing this advanced process (which I have called the third stage of the Loving Paths teaching). I will be presenting this on the new Free Energy website over this summer (there is a lot of work to uploading everything and using the right words).

As for the criticisms about the audio of the video. This video was never intended to be shown to the public. I usually video my meetings for personal reasons and rarely show others what goes on there. But after 4 years I decided to show this because people demanded to see something like this here. There is nothing I can do about the audio because this was not presented for video. Many of the details were shared previously in the meeting in an organized presentation. The purpose was to show that the box needed the motor energizer to make this happen. They were tuned together in resonance just like Tesla's one wire system perfectly phased. The basic (easy) level of this doesn't do it in resonance or with correct phasing, and yet the output can still be multiply to some degree.

Rick

I think a good example of the huge power that the Rick Friedrich circuit delivers is this video:

https://youtu.be/6he58A5xTIQ?t=1562


at around 30 minutes in it, where several high power LED bulbs are lighted up

and the voltage from the batteries did not change during the whole demonstration..


So this is pretty exiting and my friend confirms it in his replication.

Regards, Stefan.

Void

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1671 on: July 29, 2019, 06:05:46 PM »
Resonance is a gain. In a series resonance circuit the input amperage remains the same as the circulating current in the resonant coil. At the same time the voltage inside the resonant coil goes higher up to 144 times. So a simple V x A = watts indicates OU of course.

Hi a.king. Increases of voltage and current in resonant circuits is not an indication of an
increase in available output power. The current and voltage in resonant circuits are out of phase,
so it is not real power. So, it is completely incorrect to measure volts and amps in a resonant circuit
and try to equate that to real power. Electronics 101.

The only way to evaluate the performance of any circuit is to compare average output power (being consumed by a real load)
to average input power.  When you place a real load at the output of a resonant circuit, the voltage in the resonant circuit
will start to drop, and the phase angle between the current and voltage waveforms will begin to shift.
In AC circuits, the phase angle between the voltage and current must always be taken account when
making measurements. 

« Last Edit: July 29, 2019, 08:54:51 PM by Void »

ramset

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1672 on: July 29, 2019, 06:23:17 PM »
Is the issue here [besides A King recent efforts ]
that the Rick systems place a load.. in phase out of phase .. {are using Joules }..and this Load is not reflected in the battery ?

1000 watt load mentioned above ?..yes Time[how long]would be good to know ?actually plenty that would be good to know...a 1000 watt load on a AAA battery for a few hours would be convincing
just a statement towards the info not provided and the nature of the problem.
Sigh

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1673 on: July 29, 2019, 06:26:16 PM »
I think a good example of the huge power that the Rick Friedrich circuit delivers is this video:
https://youtu.be/6he58A5xTIQ?t=1562
at around 30 minutes in it, where several high power LED bulbs are lighted up
and the voltage from the batteries did not change during the whole demonstration..
So this is pretty exiting and my friend confirms it in his replication.
Regards, Stefan.

Hi Stefan.
A couple of points:

It is not the 'power rating' that may be stamped on any LED light that matters.
It is the actual power being consumed by the LED light that matters. LED Lights
can consume a relatively small amount of power and appear quite bright, as I demonstrated
earlier in this thread. This tends to fool people because people are used to the idea that bulbs that
glow brightly must be consuming a fair bit of power. LED bulbs are much more efficient than
incandescent bulbs by a considerable amount.

A battery's voltage can remain relatively constant while under load, and how long the battery's
voltage remains quite level depends on how much current is being drawn from the battery
and what percentage that current draw is to the battery's Amp-hour rating. See the attached
battery discharge curves graph for lead acid batteries, as an example.
If the current being drawn from a battery is a fair bit below the battery's C value, then the battery
could hold at a fairly stable voltage while under discharge for even an hour or longer.


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1674 on: July 29, 2019, 07:50:58 PM »
I agree with Void.

It is very strange method which Rick developed to measure power only by looking at battery voltage.
I saw that Rick has scope.
Rick, buy a cheap current probe and measure math of both bateries and leds.
And try heater instead leds.
That will be easier than 100+ pages of convincing people in OU.

Otherwise I can borrow you crystal ball or Tarot cards for measuring real power.
If you hate so much voltage+current probe+math on your scope.

No offence!

Dont answer to this post, please!

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1675 on: July 29, 2019, 07:52:05 PM »
Rick F.  is telling (us) in this video  how to decrease the current down to zero AND beyond:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kOGVfkoik&t=5619s

Just arrange multiple layers of secondary coils around the big main coil primay then insert plenty of ferrite coils in the (main) primay coil. That inserting of ferrites doesn't affects anything else (negatively) just reducing the feeding current below and beond zero
 (at 1hour 19 minutes 38 seconds in).
The ferrites did Not even made a retuning of the big coil because of the strong bonding/ lock R F says.

Look a bit into the video from 1H 18 min 15 sec. ==>  1H 20 min 05 seconds.

I think this thread "confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims" is the right place to perform a verification of that above.

 Itsu made in his thread at OUR https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3691.275
post # 280
 a first test about this.  I thank him for that.   ;D

Regards Arne

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1676 on: July 29, 2019, 08:33:05 PM »
Rick F.  is telling (us) in this video  how to decrease the current down to zero AND beyond:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kOGVfkoik&t=5619s

Just arrange multiple layers of secondary coils around the big main coil primay then insert plenty of ferrite coils in the (main) primay coil. That inserting of ferrites doesn't affects anything else (negatively) just reducing the feeding current below and beond zero
 (at 1hour 19 minutes 38 seconds in).
The ferrites did Not even made a retuning of the big coil because of the strong bonding/ lock R F says.

Look a bit into the video from 1H 18 min 15 sec. ==>  1H 20 min 05 seconds.

I think this thread "confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims" is the right place to perform a verification of that above.

 Itsu made in his thread at OUR https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3691.275
post # 280
 a first test about this.  I thank him for that.   ;D

Regards Arne

You just forced me to watch that video where Rick determines power just looking at one led.
He said "there is lots of power there", without measuring power.
I can not understand this any more.

Void tried to explain to you how to proper measure the power and how leds can deceive.

This is beyond any fairytale.
At beggining of video he stated that he got HV and with voltage more power. What about current.

I am comming to point that this is bad joke!

Scope + voltage probe + current probe + math on scope. Average power.
Any other card trick is a joke.

Rick, come to your senses! Buy a current probe and start act as real researcher!

This is joke, right? This whole thread?

I mean no insult to anyone. But this is a joke? Somebody tell me that I am dreaming.

I will be happy if I am wrong!

I am going to watch some movie. Any movie is better than this. Star wars, anything!

WhatIsIt

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1677 on: July 29, 2019, 09:07:11 PM »
I think that Mr. Void and Mr. Gear had a point.

Without proper measurement this can go endless.

Mr. Gear is right. Scope, voltage and current probe is ultimate tool in Rick case.

You dont dream Mr. Gear. You saw the problem right.
Mr. Itsu , Mr. Tinsel and Mr.Void deserve their title.

You Rick! You have to deserve your Mr. title.
So, get serious and start proper measurement.
As Mr. Gear saw, any other method in your future posts I will see as a joke just as he does.

No ment to insult!
And please, dont answer to my post also! Please!

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1678 on: July 29, 2019, 09:32:32 PM »
Rick F.  is telling (us) in this video  how to decrease the current down to zero AND beyond:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kOGVfkoik&t=5619s

Just arrange multiple layers of secondary coils around the big main coil primay then insert plenty of ferrite coils in the (main) primay coil. That inserting of ferrites doesn't affects anything else (negatively) just reducing the feeding current below and beond zero
 (at 1hour 19 minutes 38 seconds in).
The ferrites did Not even made a retuning of the big coil because of the strong bonding/ lock R F says.

Look a bit into the video from 1H 18 min 15 sec. ==>  1H 20 min 05 seconds.

I think this thread "confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims" is the right place to perform a verification of that above.

 Itsu made in his thread at OUR https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3691.275
post # 280
 a first test about this.  I thank him for that.   ;D

Regards Arne
Please explain why, if a Rick Device needs _zero current_ in order to operate.... why then can one not be operated at full performance off of just ONE of the receiver coils producing output from a first Rick Transmitter Device? Or even from the summed output of 70 receivers?
If you or anyone else thinks it can... then DO IT.   And demonstrate it. And make it truly Open Source, with all information needed so that others can DO IT too.
For that matter, if it requires ZERO CURRENT, why is a power supply or battery needed AT ALL? Surely a small capacitor of low ESR and low leakage can simply be charged to the voltage needed, and the transmitter "powered" off of that. Since ZERO CURRENT is being drawn, the voltage on the cap won't decrease and then you'll have a legit claim for OU.



TinselKoala

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1679 on: July 29, 2019, 09:36:02 PM »
(snip)

PS the editor appears to have a problem with CR and LF it appears to mix them up witch is annoying and a never ending circle trying to compensate for :) :)
I don't think anyone except you and I actually know what Carriage Return and LineFeed characters are, or how both are needed for a hard "enter" new line, and how they must be fed to the LPT1 emulator in the correct order or you get ... garbled links, bad paragraph formatting, and et cetera.
Certainly we have been complaining about it for long enough. The forum did not do this before the recent "upgrade".