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Offline citfta

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1605 on: July 27, 2019, 02:50:45 AM »
What really amazes me about these types of forums is the attitude so many people have.  They are perfectly willing to let someone else do their thinking for them.  I guess it is just a sign of how lazy our society has gotten.  How is someone with no training in electronics supposed to know if what they are being told is true or not if they are too lazy to take the time to learn the basics?  At the very beginning of this fiasco a couple of us suggested that something wasn't right because Rick insisted he got his "Great Info" from Don Smith and we both explained that Don Smith didn't know what he was talking about and gave a couple of examples of his bad information.

Now if someone didn't believe us then why didn't they take the time to do some research and learn some of the basics of electronics.  As far as I know not one person who believed in the claims took the time to research the claims made by Don Smith or even looked at the ARRL handbook he misused when giving information.  So if Rick is using bad information, how could he then be giving out good information?  It doesn't make sense.

I sincerely applaud all those who tried to reason with Rick but I am also not surprised by the outcome.  I am shocked at the attitude of the admin of this forum but we all make mistakes so that should be forgiven as I think he has probably learned from this experience also.

Respectfully,
Carroll

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1606 on: July 27, 2019, 03:39:50 AM »
Yes for you it is OU. That Video and your questions convince everyone why you are the big expert here in this forum.
What is the next? that you ask that the lighting on your yellowed laboratory is also OU?
Is this OU?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb1UpX0-Q00

Offline poynt99

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1607 on: July 27, 2019, 05:52:37 AM »
Is this OU?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb1UpX0-Q00


Apparently for some, if you say it is OU, then they will just take you at your word.


No fact checking, no critical thinking, just blind enthusiasm.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1608 on: July 27, 2019, 06:58:08 AM »
Is this OU?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb1UpX0-Q00

Maybe not OU, because there is no source.
But free energy for sure.

If you are not faking it, it looks like good find!
Why bulb light up only at the bottom of jar?
Does it depends on amount of water?

Anyway, it is better than Ricks leds!

Can you do some more tests?

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1609 on: July 27, 2019, 08:31:21 AM »
I am shocked at the attitude of the admin of this forum but we all make mistakes so that should be forgiven as I think he has probably learned from this experience also.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Owner of forum does not care for members.
He cares for forum viewers.
He was hoping that Rick will bring him glory to the forum and number of clicks.

But Rick burned him also. And left him empty handed.

I hope he will learn who was really making his forum popular, if he menage to get back members he lost.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1610 on: July 27, 2019, 09:45:48 AM »
He is just using the gate driver directly to drive the LC tank.

If the gate driver has Schmitt trigger on input, then is possible to use signal from coil as input to gate driver without need of timer.
But you can not control switching frequency. It depends on coil feedback. Is it the best frequency for that task? Hmm.

Without Schmitt trigger gate driver will pick up any oscillation and will switch randomly which will lead to its own burn out.
And gate driver has its limitations.
But, yes, you can power coil that way for a while but not for larger power needs.

Or you can use timers which has also schmitt trigger on input, like simpliest of all, 555, for the same purpose.

SG3525 has also input pin for timing, not sure if it has Schmitt trigger on it. Probably has. Without it it will react on any noise from outside.

TC4420 is resilient low side gate driver which can output 6A pulsed, I think, which is more than enough, giving output of 100mA or so, for that coil.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1611 on: July 27, 2019, 10:04:50 AM »
Yes for you it is OU. That Video and your questions convince everyone why you are the big expert here in this forum.
What is the next? that you ask that the lighting on your yellowed laboratory is also OU?
You can't prove anything over the internet, remember? I guarantee if you build it right, it will work. Corollary: If it doesn't work... you didn't build it right. QED.

And it's my teeth that are yellowed, not my laboratory.

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1612 on: July 27, 2019, 10:25:09 AM »

Since you are new here you may not be aware that this has already been covered, including analysis of the actual current being driven into RF's transmitter coil, and indeed Our Friend, working in another forum, is already using coil feedback for autoresonating as you describe. Further, simple actual Solid State Tesla Coils have been constructed by some of this thread's workers using 555 > TC4420 or IXDD614, etc. > mosfet (or CRT horizontal output transistor, some can work pretty well) > low impedance primary > 1/4 wave helical resonator > elevated top capacity, using antenna feedback to Gate Driver,  to make full Tesla wireless power transmission systems. But there are safety considerations when going this route. HVRF burns are very painful and take a long time to heal, and sensitive test equipment must be protected, as the voltages produced can be two or even three orders of magnitude greater than what RF's system attains.
I think that is one reason why RF didn't get the reception he apparently wanted; most people who are actually building and testing have gone far beyond his presentations long ago. 

But your question is an important one. Is the autoresonating frequency the "best" frequency for the task?


What, exactly, is the "task", and how is it to be accomplished? And how can we tell when we have accomplished it? Lighting up a few LEDs at tabletop distances seems rather anticlimactic.

(The switching frequency of an autoresonator can still be controlled, within limits, by incorporating an inductor or capacitor that can be tuned in the tank current path.)

If the gate driver has Schmitt trigger on input, then is possible to use signal from coil as input to gate driver without need of timer.
But you can not control switching frequency. It depends on coil feedback. Is it the best frequency for that task? Hmm.

Without Schmitt trigger gate driver will pick up any oscillation and will switch randomly which will lead to its own burn out.
And gate driver has its limitations.
But, yes, you can power coil that way for a while but not for larger power needs.

Or you can use timers which has also schmitt trigger on input, like simpliest of all, 555, for the same purpose.

SG3525 has also input pin for timing, not sure if it has Schmitt trigger on it. Probably has. Without it it will react on any noise from outside.

TC4420 is resilient low side gate driver which can output 6A pulsed, I think, which is more than enough, giving output of 100mA or so, for that coil.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1613 on: July 27, 2019, 11:39:56 AM »
Question: which is the "power density" from Mr.Friedrichs' coil conept ?
What is the cost per Watt gain,not calculating with 100US$ per coil but with 10 US$/1 US$  ?
Mr.Friedrich presents not an industrial solution, it is ART !

"Energy harvester" gives also ambiental energy collection and are actually relative "cheaper" than his "artefact" !
A FE device like solar/win/water/gravity converter has to be affordable,especially for the 3-4 billions lower income
population worldwide !

The first target for "electricity on demand" : 10 US$ cents per KWh

Second target: the U.S. B2B average KWh electricity price: 5,5 US$ cents

And  finally : 500 US$/€ per KW FE device which by 5% tax and ten years amortization  explores in continuum work each KWh appropriate private household standard electricity for 1 US$/€ cent. !

S o it is even important to develop the 1 eKWpeak household,included heating/cooling- light- kitchen appliances
Going in Extreme : 0,8 KWh daily electricity consume ( 800 Wh/ 24 day hours ~ Wattpeak ? )
https://mtbest.net/energy_efficiency.html

( actually target 1 and 2 are easy to release : from 5,5 to 1 cent per KWh - on demand- it is more complex to organize !)

500 US$ per FE device is a high price :                         https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/landing
300 US$ challenge " for the first social home" in comparison
The second great search : drinkable water on demand

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1614 on: July 27, 2019, 12:04:34 PM »
 
But your question is an important one. Is the autoresonating frequency the "best" frequency for the task?

You got the point. Sometimes auto frequency does not mean that coil is in resonance.
It can be worse than some other controlled frequency.
Except for Mr. Rick. For him everything is resonance.

Even switching with the hand.

He said that he diacovered mosfets only some time ago and their speed.
But probably he does not know how to implement them, so he used only gate driver.
Before that he switched with bipolar, which he saw from Bedini.
But speed is important for him.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1615 on: July 27, 2019, 12:08:29 PM »
You can't prove anything over the internet, remember? I guarantee if you build it right, it will work. Corollary: If it doesn't work... you didn't build it right. QED.

And it's my teeth that are yellowed, not my laboratory.

Dont be another Rick!
One was enough. Lets forget nightmare!

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1616 on: July 27, 2019, 12:48:16 PM »
Hi here is a trailer for JB's Lockridge device, watch it or ignore it, but was it OU?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AykzfzpmNLU

Has any one got a copy of DVD no 14 I can watch E-mail me?

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1617 on: July 27, 2019, 02:14:13 PM »
In autoresonant mode , frequency picked by coil and returned back to mosfet driver is the same frequency as the resonant frequency of tank circuit ? is it shifted in phase ? can we make it the same frequency andin phase with resonant frequency of tank circuit ?
Please experts - give us some tips in that direction. I'm quite sure that if the feedback is on the same frequency and phase and we can adjust it to trigger in some small period of resonant frequency cycle as a burst of one-polarity impulses then the gain would be visible.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1618 on: July 27, 2019, 03:27:02 PM »
Resonance stadium:

emitter / coil a max. Voltage  min.= zero Amperage and receiver/ coil b min.= zero Voltage and max.Amperage and the vice-versa displacement

Lord Kelvin : spring/ condensator( capacitor) analogon

Charge/dis-charge/re-charge pump system
Electric charge by  "law of conservation of energy" conditionized e-charge storage system

But : there is also a magnetic charge and an ambiental charge ( air-gas f.e. and the Ozone production )
Ionizer, permanent magnet/electro magnet and the gas- kinetik theory
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avogadrosches_Gesetz
https://www.leifiphysik.de/waermelehre/allgemeines-gasgesetz/grundwissen/gesetz-von-gay-lussac
electricity is gas- based : elektronen-/ ionen- gas,actually better known as Plasma
Ergo important : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiedemann%E2%80%93Franz_law

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1619 on: July 27, 2019, 04:34:50 PM »
In autoresonant mode , frequency picked by coil and returned back to mosfet driver is the same frequency as the resonant frequency of tank circuit ? is it shifted in phase ? can we make it the same frequency andin phase with resonant frequency of tank circuit ?
Please experts - give us some tips in that direction. I'm quite sure that if the feedback is on the same frequency and phase and we can adjust it to trigger in some small period of resonant frequency cycle as a burst of one-polarity impulses then the gain would be visible.

I am not the expert, but transformer does not have phase shift.
You have to take care of polarities. Secondary has reversed polarity. It looks like 180 phase shift but it isnt.
In reality I observed some small phase shift in some situations, nothing serious.

 

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