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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 199649 times)

Offline seaad

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1590 on: July 26, 2019, 09:02:45 PM »
 Rick was able to lit some 12V LED's in [below] 5 Watt realm total power [as we 'think'] with his gate driver. The voltage across the primary coil/ cap. was 5000 Volt.
If we want to achieve 5000 Watts gathered output power to deliver to our house e.g. . Then the voltage across the .coil/ cap. has to be around
 150 000 volt. If I'm right.
Just think that the distances between the plates of the primary  [1 nF]  air capacitor has to be about 16 mm [2/3 ''].

Arne

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1591 on: July 26, 2019, 09:09:42 PM »
Forget about Rick and check yourself if there is energy gain in simple LCR tank circuit.Look - if there is energy gain then the seup of many coupled coils is just overcomplication of this simple LCR tank circuit.

Fair enough!

I did. With every added coil ouput splits more and more.
I concluded it is radio station which was invented long before Rick.

What about your find? Do you did any measurements which showed more that input?

I would not write all of this things if I did not tried.
Or there is something different in your setup which I am not aware.

One question: How many of Rick coils do you need to power TV. 1000+ ??
If he had something, he did not perfected that.

Maybe you can show how to do it. With measurements off course.
I dont have nothing against it!

Otherwise you can post all day in vain.

Your post showing me like you detected energy gain. Please instruct me how to do it, so I can detect energy gain as well!

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1592 on: July 26, 2019, 09:32:03 PM »
Rick was able to lit some 12V LED's in [below] 5 Watt realm total power [as we 'think'] with his gate driver. The voltage across the primary coil/ cap. was 5000 Volt.
If we want to achieve 5000 Watts gathered output power to deliver to our house e.g. . Then the voltage across the .coil/ cap. has to be around
 150 000 volt. If I'm right.
Just think that the distances between the plates of the primary  [1 nF]  air capacitor has to be about 16 mm [2/3 ''].

Arne

First of all. Driving mosfet without gate driver is like forcing horse to run on one leg.
Nothing magical in it. With gate driver mosfet has speed as it should by specs.
With proper pull down resistors.
Without gate driver it is nothing. Only for child play.

Second. Power consists of  2 variables. Voltage and current. Only voltage is nothing.
 You can do it with flyback more efficiently, if you need only voltage.

And if you want real speed. SIC diodes and mosfets. Future!
SIC diodes has no reverse time recovery.
SIC mosfets are drived with 20V, you should look their performance.
Silicon Carbide is speed! Low resistance.

I looked at Ricks mosfets, they are medium speed one.
After his 15 years of experience he choose very poorly mosfets and he talks how speed is important.
I can only laugh at his choice. Period.


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1592 on: July 26, 2019, 09:32:03 PM »
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Offline Vortex1

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1593 on: July 26, 2019, 10:18:26 PM »
First of all. Driving mosfet without gate driver is like forcing horse to run on one leg.
Nothing magical in it. With gate driver mosfet has speed as it should by specs.
With proper pull down resistors.
Without gate driver it is nothing. Only for child play.

Second. Power consists of  2 variables. Voltage and current. Only voltage is nothing.
 You can do it with flyback more efficiently, if you need only voltage.

And if you want real speed. SIC diodes and mosfets. Future!
SIC diodes has no reverse time recovery.
SIC mosfets are drived with 20V, you should look their performance.
Silicon Carbide is speed! Low resistance.

I looked at Ricks mosfets, they are medium speed one.
After his 15 years of experience he choose very poorly mosfets and he talks how speed is important.
I can only laugh at his choice. Period.

You are right on It is good to see someone telling the real story about how to switch rapidly and other points you made.

From reading your posts, you are obviously well versed in the art,

But it us frustrating to deal with, or try to teach "the man of the hour".

Regards

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1594 on: July 26, 2019, 10:36:01 PM »
Today Rick F gave a gift to the world that will Change our world forever ,tomorrow is the dawn of a new era where wars for oil and resources famine ,drought ..mass extinctions will be in our past ,air pollution Global warming etc....Our children and......Oh
Oh wait ,I'm sorry Rick F has more important things to do
quote  I have too much business to attend to to worry about these little children.end quote
see you in Church I suppose Rick ? here in these forums a few hundred thousand people working to teach and change the world ,to save many lives and stop much suffering to end oil wars Mass migrations Starvation Famine mass extinctions and ....
 We Wait......
Chet K


Rick never had any gift to give. Period. End of story.

His only gift to this forum was his exit.

Now maybe serious work can commence without the profuse verbiage.

Itsu made a beautiful replication and accurate measurements that showed no excess power to be had.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1594 on: July 26, 2019, 10:36:01 PM »
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Offline poynt99

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1595 on: July 26, 2019, 10:36:56 PM »
Well I see that you are happy now that Rick has gone.

No one is happy about any aspect of this type of recurring debacle, including Rick leaving. And this includes Rick's poor attitude and over-reaction to relevant, honest questions.

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Could YOU show us the way to overunity please........

I would not be using such words unless I was 100% certain of my stance... are you? Would you (or Rick for that matter) bet your house that Rick has OU devices? Of course you wouldn't, because you are not 100% certain, and neither is Rick.

And that is one primary reason why these forums are here; to share, discuss, evaluate, and test people's ideas, and in doing so everyone learns something. One day perhaps we'll even discover true OU. But none of this can happen when folks have such poor attitudes, and/or are simply trying to sell kits, claiming the sorts of things Rick was claiming with his coils.

Then there's the all-too-often encountered "Dunning-Kruger effect", but I am not going to go there...

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1596 on: July 26, 2019, 10:38:24 PM »
seaad, why "5000 Watt " and how : as Wattpeak or Wh per day ?
WhatsIsIt : how important is for the speed the " frequency modulation" ?
Mr.Friedrich wrote about motor use : capacitive,resistive,inductive load ( and inrush current/ nominal current ratio)
When 50 Hz represents 3000 rpm rotative and 60 Hz 3600 rpmhow many rotations represent KHz,MHz signal cycles ?
What is BEMF in grid- connected appliances : look for negative power factor

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1597 on: July 26, 2019, 10:53:58 PM »
You are right on It is good to see someone telling the real story about how to switch rapidly and other points you made.

From reading your posts, you are obviously well versed in the art,

But it us frustrating to deal with, or try to teach "the man of the hour".

Regards

Sometimes fancy knowledge discourage members up to the point they give up because they think they know less.
It is not true. We are all here in same pot.
Even SG3525, IR2110. IRF 740 basic setup on/of 30/20 ns outperforms any Ricks mosfets he has on his web sale. And it cost peanuts.

I dont want to talk about Rick anymore.
Members of this forum has to unite and share.
When sharing, something always pops up. Thats the point. You need nobody.
And you have everything. Just become all friends and work together.
Nick Z is trying that for a long time.
He does his thing and not depend on some messiah.

I am trying to be fair for anyone. Smallest and biggest. As much as I can.
Can stand critics also if I am wrong.
I am small guy just as everyone else. No big deal!

Dont be frustrated, you all are doing good!
The truth will pop up, if not today, then some other day. It will!

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1598 on: July 27, 2019, 12:37:51 AM »
seaad, why "5000 Watt " and how : as Wattpeak or Wh per day ?
WhatsIsIt : how important is for the speed the " frequency modulation" ?
Mr.Friedrich wrote about motor use : capacitive,resistive,inductive load ( and inrush current/ nominal current ratio)
When 50 Hz represents 3000 rpm rotative and 60 Hz 3600 rpmhow many rotations represent KHz,MHz signal cycles ?
What is BEMF in grid- connected appliances : look for negative power factor

Hehe, ok.
Something normal in AC is reactive power. It reflects from consumer inductive and capacitive load back to power companies generators overloading them.
Simpliest form of dealing with reactive power in AC is capacitor (of certain value) per motor, inductive load.

Also, power companies uses big motors/generators for compensation of the whole grid at once.

Rick is transforming DC to AC with his pulsed motor and use same to absorb reactive power from load, making motor a generator, and result with additional torque, making more power for load which reflects more reactive power back to motor/generator.
Balance between load and motor makes reactive power to power motor, so battery does not have to push much, while it powers load. Load has to be inductive or capacitive nature to achieve that.

He did not invent this. This exist for a long time.

Google how electric companies make battles with AC reactive power and it will be clear to you. They use big motor/generators for balance of grid power. Very expensive solutions for large grids.
Which makes some of Rick statements true.
It is foggy does he understand this.
He does not know how to use voltage/current probe for math power measuring, so it is not clear how much he understand of the whole thing.

As for power in W. Million volts does not mean 5000W. It depends how much current that million volts has.

If you use bipolar transistors you will never see effects which mosfets produce. Thats speed.
You just have to try both and compare. Once you do, you will love mosfets!

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1599 on: July 27, 2019, 12:53:59 AM »
Is the usage of reactive power OU.?
NO!
It can reduce power consumption, but it is not OU!

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1600 on: July 27, 2019, 01:06:55 AM »
Same goes for the power factor in AC. Correcting power factor with caps of certain values on motors gives more power to motor. It is all about phase correction.
Just google power factor correction methods.

Rick dis not invent it. That problems exists from Tesla times and first grid generators.
How to compensate reactive power and use it to benefit power companies, not the consumers.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1601 on: July 27, 2019, 01:37:09 AM »
Sometimes fancy knowledge discourage members up to the point they give up because they think they know less.
It is not true. We are all here in same pot.
Even SG3525, IR2110. IRF 740 basic setup on/of 30/20 ns outperforms any Ricks mosfets he has on his web sale. And it cost peanuts.

I dont want to talk about Rick anymore.
Members of this forum has to unite and share.
When sharing, something always pops up. Thats the point. You need nobody.
And you have everything. Just become all friends and work together.
Nick Z is trying that for a long time.
He does his thing and not depend on some messiah.

I am trying to be fair for anyone. Smallest and biggest. As much as I can.
Can stand critics also if I am wrong.
I am small guy just as everyone else. No big deal!

Dont be frustrated, you all are doing good!
The truth will pop up, if not today, then some other day. It will!
You are right in all you say (and some of us have said most of it before), but there is one point I'd like to clear up: In the coil setup RF showed and talked about interminably in this thread, and which our friend worked on to replicate, he doesn't use a mosfet at all, I thought. He is just using the gate driver directly to drive the LC tank.
I don't know what he has on his web sale but as far as I can tell he only used the gate driver directly for RF's radio transmitter in this thread.

It proved impossible to carry on an actual dialog with RF, as others have pointed out. He has his answers before the questions, and the actual questions are rarely  answered, and when they are, they often turn out to be claims without evidence, instead of factual answers.
What is the exact make and model of the LED bulbs he used in the photo which has appeared several times in various threads?  Do his, or do his not, incorporate the high brightness LED driver chip MAX16820?

Were he still posting I'm sure he'd generate a wall of text, quote the question _after_ the answer, and not actually tell us the make and model of the bulbs.



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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1602 on: July 27, 2019, 01:38:17 AM »

Rick never had any gift to give. Period. End of story.

His only gift to this forum was his exit.

Now maybe serious work can commence without the profuse verbiage.

Itsu made a beautiful replication and accurate measurements that showed no excess power to be had.
When?

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1603 on: July 27, 2019, 01:51:02 AM »
A King I had thought you were trying to guide this persons efforts  [he does not want to see his handle here involved in conflicts he has had his fill of nonsense and fighting ..
link here  https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg536598/#msg536598

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1604 on: July 27, 2019, 02:28:30 AM »

Well I see that you are happy now that Rick has gone.
Could YOU show us the way to overunity please........
Is this OU?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb1UpX0-Q00

 

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