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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 192251 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1470 on: July 21, 2019, 05:14:10 PM »
Did you enjoy make that "copy" of my circuit or not ? Did you find OU ?





 but wait a minute  ..... is really a copy of my original circuit, the same mini radiant exciter  that i send to my friend Jeff Dove Jeff in USA  ??

Is possible that you mistake something when you copy the circuit ? who knows ?




 
Is it possible that YOU made an error in your schematic that I copied and that appears in the video? Is what you sent to Jeff Dove really this circuit? How can we be sure? Did you also send him the power _transmitter_ that nobody wants to talk about?

Is it possible that _this_ is really a mini radiant exciter?:




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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1470 on: July 21, 2019, 05:14:10 PM »

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1471 on: July 21, 2019, 05:17:35 PM »
Maybe Mark Dansie is close enough to pay a visit. But these days he seems to be more interested in serious investigations with real possibilities, rather than this kind of thing.

Hi ramset. Apparently Joel Cas Raras is not 'open source', but he may possibly give an in person
demo to someone if they are in his area and contact him through his Facebook page.
Hopefully he would allow people to inspect carefully around the device to look for any possible hidden wires
powering the loads. If he doesn't allow people to inspect for hidden wires outside the device, then the device is fake. :)

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1472 on: July 21, 2019, 05:20:46 PM »
we have open source friends here from the Philippines
not a problem to contact them .maybe start a topic ?
Chet, check your email! I've sent you something for Itsu. (I don't have his email address and can't attach anything to PMs here.)


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1472 on: July 21, 2019, 05:20:46 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1473 on: July 21, 2019, 05:26:03 PM »
AG  quite true you make posts like you just did to hoppy all the time here  "PSSSST have a look at this,but its not for here "  or make insinuations of knowledge not revealed ..Secrets .....and that is the problem with Ricks unwillingness to help here,and people here see one of the better builders at the forum struggle with the language
and understanding..and instead ,he just criticizes itsu for his handicap..or inability tocomprehend.
to much PSSSST here...

members here read that and suspect that your are indeed consistent.
EDiIT I see you added itsu to the quote and now in bold

HOPPY and ITSU I HAVE SOME THING THAT MIGHT HELP YOU BUT IT'S NOT FOR EVERYONE'S EYES.
can i send it to you ?
Nelson..respect has a place in knitting forums ..baking..or maybe poem writing venues as perhaps an excuse to with hold content...when peoples lives depend on the topic coming thru loud .. clear ..and spot on..?
PLEASE...
Well... OK, I'll just post that little diagram here then and hope Itsu sees it. But we know which forum has the most Private Threads, which is exactly why I left.



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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1474 on: July 21, 2019, 05:27:03 PM »
Is it possible that YOU made an error in your schematic that I copied and that appears in the video? Is what you sent to Jeff Dove really this circuit? How can we be sure? Did you also send him the power _transmitter_ that nobody wants to talk about?

Is it possible that _this_ is really a mini radiant exciter?:


1-Is it possible that YOU made an error in your schematic that I copied and that appears in the video?
 It could happen .. or even you not full understand the prupose of the circuit .

2- Is what you sent to Jeff Dove really this circuit? How can we be sure?
 Yes i send him the original.  You only need to ask him and you will hear their answer

3-Did you also send him the power _transmitter_ that nobody wants to talk about?
No , i did not send because simple not exist . You should not need to send , but receive that is the goal .

4-Is it possible that _this_ is really a mini radiant exciter?:

No just a kacher circuit or some type of variant


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Offline Void

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1475 on: July 21, 2019, 05:31:05 PM »
Maybe Mark Dansie is close enough to pay a visit. But these days he seems to be more interested in serious investigations with real possibilities, rather than this kind of thing.

Well, if he allows people to come and view a demo in person (as he apparently already has) and inspect for
any hidden wires around it, and if it can run a kW of loads for say 8 hours with no issue, then I would say
that would be a good test. Until something like that is done, I would say it might be jumping the gun to completely dismiss it.  :D

P.S. Based on a comment I read, it looks like a familiar situation here where Joel Cas Raras says he doesn't have a patent
and that it works on a simple principle, and he wants investors, but is afraid that once the secret
of how it works is out he will will be shunted aside, so he is very reluctant to make a deal with anyone. :)


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1476 on: July 21, 2019, 05:37:50 PM »
   TK:   I've sent you a PM, please check it.
   Itsu is not part of our forum members here now. But, seams to still be able to post PMs here. Although of that, I'm not too sure.
   NickZ

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1477 on: July 21, 2019, 05:52:38 PM »

1-Is it possible that YOU made an error in your schematic that I copied and that appears in the video?
 It could happen .. or even you not full understand the prupose of the circuit .

2- Is what you sent to Jeff Dove really this circuit? How can we be sure?
 Yes i send him the original.  You only need to ask him and you will hear their answer

3-Did you also send him the power _transmitter_ that nobody wants to talk about?
No , i did not send because simple not exist . You should not need to send , but receive that is the goal .

4-Is it possible that _this_ is really a mini radiant exciter?:

No just a kacher circuit or some type of variant

   
   Nelson:  Can you please explain (again), the difference between your circuit, and a simple Exciter/Kacher circuit?
   I am still very interested in your circuit(s), if that particular circuit can self run, or produce OU.   

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1478 on: July 21, 2019, 06:50:31 PM »
Rick reinvented radio station. Which he presented here.
Maybe he has something, but that part he will never diaclose.
He wants everyone to follow him without question.
God complex! To beg him for something we never saw.
I saw his car, but not runing, just parked while he made long speech about it.
Probably is same with the boat.

He promised video in which he will help step by step how to achieve results he claims.
That video never showed up.

I dont know for the others, but this story becomes hollow and Harry Potter like.

Ocam's Razor:
If Rick has something, he will not be here teachong for free.
His gadgets are not free and I can say little bit expensive.
If he really has a boat runing for three years, power companies and oil giants would depart him from this world long time ago.
With his statements he is running with the flag, begging powers on top to crash him, melt him and make him dissapear into the night.
But nobody is touching him because he is not danger for them.
They know how much he has.
So, everyone can conclude what is going here.

Stop begging and make your own circuits and devices which can be better than his claims.

This forum lost few good members because this.
It doesnt have to be like this!

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1479 on: July 21, 2019, 06:56:31 PM »
Void..I see Tinsels recommendation above ..on Mark D I just checked distance from Dansies posted business to your fellow in San Pedro
seems within 50 miles or so ??
will call Dansie tomorrow and let him know
I must add ...these guys with serious claims who are not open sourcing ..they Make Mark sign contacts that would keep him and his family broke for generations if he revealed the results ...
suffice to say ..usually the scammers won't allow him to test once they realize the extent he goes to.
and that info [a denial to allow a no cost to the inventor investigation would be enuff for a better understanding of this fellows  claims ,to be clear we are talking black box no secrets revealed demonstrations..where secrets are not even revealed to the investigators.
I must add ..he told me in the 100 or more investigations he has done...
not one  ...........

but he did mention years ago [prior to this call I made to him about IEC a few weeks ago] an ambient harvester he was invited to see ... that had given him pause it had serious limitations and  low wattage collection [30 watts ??]

??
also a note about a person who I will not write his name here anymore [or wants others mentioning here] ...use PM here for correspondence ...membership in full operation.and circuit viewed from this topic.
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I see Tinsel posted a reason which I was unaware of...for leaving Peter's forum
I had thought an issue with the IEC topic and lawyers or lawsuit concerns on Peters forum as the reason    To clarify its Not really allowed at that venue since Bedini came there and threatened Peter with lawsuit 
 the  bedini name was not allowed to be written after that..and great care taken to not subject the host to such REAL THREATS ever again.America has way too many Lawyers looking for money...Peter runs his forum on his dime no advertisingand works unbelievable hours to make ends meet.and yes that is absolutely one reason that not every topic or investigation is on a public thread ..Liability to the host.but to insinuate that the forum keeps secrets from the open source community.. would be a kick in the groin for Peter and all that toil there .The rule is you don't work in Peter's house with out an open source Plan for that work. end of story

My comment to AG was one of a behavior that he does from time to time not realizing how it looks to readers !
he intimates a higher knowledge and makes no effort to explain.[why members here Take issue with Rick..]
happens quite a bit ??
I regret writing that now ,but at the same time happy for TK response and clarity ...
 

















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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1480 on: July 21, 2019, 07:03:23 PM »
   
   Nelson:  Can you please explain (again), the difference between your circuit, and a simple Exciter/Kacher circuit?
   I am still very interested in your circuit(s), if that particular circuit can self run, or produce OU.

Hi Nick, I hope you're well.
I respect you Nick but i will not make the mistake once made in the past, fueling controversy, and I unlike some people i
 do not need to be the center of attention .
That circuit is part of something bigger , where i invest 2 years of my time study him but is only a model of study not scaled .
On this old video you could see 1 test with on of "radiant" module tests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is9fOtBeo_I

More scaled up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGdKqdpztuY            look to the glass of water on the top of flat pancake coil

Wish you all the best






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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1481 on: July 21, 2019, 07:15:58 PM »
Chet: quote from Wesley.


Dr Hans is good man, but he has temptations and  moods.[/size]and I respect thatAs far as me. : I DON"T CARE..That is one of the reasons I didn't publish yet  book  for housewives   how to  put together   shelf from IKEA and how to  build FE  device  based   on  Schumann waveguide.Wesley

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1482 on: July 21, 2019, 07:55:15 PM »
Wesley has great zeal and passion for this path he investigates I have absolutely Zero knowledge beyond his postings at this forum.
I had read a while back in his note book he was looking for or wondering why persons were not experimenting with this/his technology ?
very recently there have been discussions towards remedying this drought?
maybe he will open a separate page in his section if this happens ?
that is to say persons with the skill set and equipment and history of sharing
here or elsewhere !
show interest..................would not surprise me if Wesley even offered to loan some things towards this goal [he is that kind of guy !!
??nothing ventured nothing gained........??






 

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1483 on: July 21, 2019, 08:28:00 PM »
Hi Ramset. If Joel agrees to do a demo (he apparently has previously), then it doesn't have to
be too over the top. If the person going there is too demanding or intimidating, he might not agree to a demo. :)
For a first visit, a person viewing just needs to:
1) Be able to make sure there are no hidden mains wires being used to power the loads by checking carefully around the device
    and loads for possible hidden wires.
2) Make sure there is no large battery inside powering an inverter. Can do this by powering
    a load of about 1kW for several hours continuously.
Keep it friendly and easy going and he may agree to do the demo.
If someone approaches him with all sorts of over the top demands, then he may well not agree. :)


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1484 on: July 21, 2019, 09:03:50 PM »
T,
Face it, you accused me of not reading your post in my reply, but I did and you actually didn't in the very reply. Just like Void. Now you look even worse for shifting your rebuke. You specifically described Void's meters I showed exploded, so you mocked him while trying to mock me. You have no credibility here, and you are not providing any valuable content. Only being a bully as one just pointed out.  :-\

I am not relying on a panel meters for my claims T. I do use all the meters available, and also the ultimate KW meter that is on the side of your house as I show at my meetings. My claims are about what is happening in the real world.

It is obvious that you DO CARE what I say, otherwise you would not go to such lengths to make a fool of yourself. You are desperate to do this at any cost apparently.

I didn't demonstrate anything on this forum but my claims about truths you all have proved to and in yourselves now. It is you who have all proved the only claims I intended to prove through the internet. I proved that: It is foolish to assume you can prove or disprove OU through video, pictures or words over the Internet. I proved that people like you contradict themselves and purposely try and suppress what I have been sharing. The intense energy fired up about a mere information exchange proves to everyone that the mocking words are not actually sincere and that there is a manifest agenda here. The amount of traffic alone that has come to this thread since I joined it last month is very telling that the information is valuable. You and several others speak as if it is not, but the volume and fallacy of your responses prove to everyone otherwise.

Just imagine what that energy could do if you sincerely wanted to do good with it. So far I have proven several fundamental things to these two forums, what have you proven? Seems nobody wanted to even consider that you can't prove or disprove OU over the Internet. Now that seems self-evident, but why have all of you and tens of thousands of people not considered that all these years? So much wasted energy as some of you have admitted. I think that what I did in that respect is very significant even if you disagree with everything else. But no, you are bent on attack. And you don't want to grant that because it exposes your game and great fallacy. I have brought the actual purpose of these forums back to your faces and rebuked the folly of trying to make this and all forums into some heresy hunting inquisition. And I have repeatedly stated that we have to start with a proper foundation or there can be no progress. But you and others keep denying that foundation and beg the question by expecting proof over the internet directly or implied. You are all bent out of shape over it. I take a picture outside of a racoon up a tree and post it on a forum. Any you jump up an down saying it doesn't prove it is a raccoon because you think it is a cat. You mock me because you assume there are no raccoons in this area, and besides that I didn't have the proper lens on my camera to prove it to you! But I never intended to prove to you that it was a racoon with a picture or over the internet. I merely shared something with a picture to strangers because I thought they may be interested. Now I could share that actual picture but somehow I don't think I would get the same response.

You're the one relying on the PSU panel meters for your claims Rick, we've all seen you do it. Void is simply illustrating how they work and how imprecise they can be.    :o
And I don't care what you say... I care what you DEMONSTRATE, and your PHOTO to which I referred in my comment DEMONSTRATES a bunch of coils without visible loads and a few measly LEDs lit to a dim glow, with sufficient power INPUT to your system fully to account what you DEMONSTRATE. It also DEMONSTRATES that you have a lot more coils and LEDs that you want people to think you "could" have connected.

If that's your OU.... you are being laughed at, by a lot more people than just me. You are being laughed at by the real builders and experimenters on at least two forums.  I can put a bucket out in my yard and catch water from my sprinkler system. The bucket fills up, and I can even put a dozen more buckets out there and they will all fill up, and without putting any additional load on my sprinklers.  That is all you are doing with your "OU".

Demonstrate the validity of your claims. Or admit that you cannot. Think about what Chet has told you, and search deeply within your soul, and ask yourself.... "Is that right?"

 

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