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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 542686 times)

rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1245 on: July 14, 2019, 01:41:02 PM »
Jeg,
What device are you using for showing that cap test?

Right now I am experimenting with an un-tuned system and even a thin cable of 15 cm anywhere in between the line bottlenecks the outcome. It also looks like that proper termination plays a significant role. At least to an un-tuned system.         

That is so true. So many things which beg for innovation and improvement. Materials alone is a whole subject.

Thank you :)

Ps. If anyone interests in a quick and dirty measuring technique of input/output energy, then I suggest you the cap-in / cap-out method. Two identical caps one across the input and one across the output. Charge the input cap to any voltage level fits to your application, disconnect your battery, and then switch your device on. Watch by using two voltage meters, the voltage across the two caps. Then use one of the many online energy calculators to see where you are. In my current experiment I charge both of the caps to 24V, I start operation, and when input energy has dissipated, then i compare the numbers. Just that easy.   

Jeg

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1246 on: July 14, 2019, 02:24:14 PM »
Rick
It can be used with any device which is able to charge a cap at the output. In Itsu's build for example, each output led can be substituted with a cap, and at the end of the working operation he can calculate in a minute all the added gained energy from each reactor versus his input energy consumption. I use it to see the impact of any change I make to my circuit, and works fine without having doubts.  ;)

   

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1247 on: July 14, 2019, 02:59:35 PM »
Hi Rick,
thanks a lot for your answer and also that I can call you up. Very nice, that you start a new website! Yes, I will check my transistor first.
I made a big mistake. I haven't made pictures of my working setup and now I am not sure, if I have the same configuration again, or some other factors are the reason. My battery was also unused since round about a month, because I have switched my experiments from the motor setup completly to the resonance kit.
Perhaps my batteries started to sulfate. I will measure the Wh in it first  and eliminate all other factors, then I will come back and answer your questions.
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One thing to look at with those old setups is placing a 100W LED module in series with the charging battery and tell me if it really lights up or is relatively faint.
Sorry if I have confused you, because of my lack of english. I haven't used one of your older motors, it is a self builded motor. With that, I never tried to run such a big 100W LED Module. I have to buy one first, and then come back here, to answer your questions.
Thank you Rick.

Hey B,
This is good to hear. As for your situation there are a thousands things I could say. This is probably best to call me up so we can go back and forth on the details. The first thing probably is to go back to what you had initially and make careful observations. The second thing to consider is that the old setups could have partially damaged transistors. I have almost certainty that many people who got poor results had such because they had that. It is easy to forget to hook the charging battery. And the switching can still work but it is now possibly damaged. Or some experiment was done it was damaged. I have worked with many people only to find that was the case. Because almost everyone thinks everything is ok unless it is a full smoked transistor. The next thing is to realize that the trigger coil setups were problematic in that the impedance keeps changing with batteries. So unless you get things right on as in the video it will wander off (as you can see when the second 100W was added input battery voltage went up and he had to adjust the pot slightly).

Now I am not disclosing anything about the ideal setup other than what I have shared on this thread by pointing to the sources where you can see your options. This is something people have to work for. My policy is that I don't give out part numbers (for one reason as that people end up buying them out) and this ideal system actually crosses the line. All I planned on doing was giving the basics so that people can multiply the outputs enough times for their needs.

Stay tuned as I will do a completely free, literally using that word in the domain, website like I did with potentialtec.com over the years. I will see about adding more detail there if it is appropriate.

One thing to look at with those old setups is placing a 100W LED module in series with the charging battery and tell me if it really lights up or is relatively faint. Or check the collector and emitter with the scope when you are charging a sulfated battery with little capacity. Tell me what the voltage is? We are looking to see the effects of suitable impulsing. This is all before the other questions. Well looking again at what you wrote that should be fine. You can remove the capacitors with the inductors and try some different arrangements... Again, you can call sometime and we can go over exactly what you have there.

a.king21

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1248 on: July 14, 2019, 03:56:59 PM »
Some facts:


Tinsel Koala does not remember so I am going to post the overunity experimental circuit done by the Ukrainian government's agricultural college.  We corresponded for some time.

Here are some of Rick's REAL CUSTOMERS in the REAL WORLD.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucvc38NCg9k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShXBAniR1JY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX_rlCAFQxs


These are customers who have purchased his products.

NickZ

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1249 on: July 14, 2019, 04:26:27 PM »
  Well, it looks like those happy customers are going to need that battery charger, for their OU tests.  Perhaps a few of the thousands of happy customers that Rick has mentioned, would like to share their self running or OU results, here. The ones that bought his device, not the battery charger. As this thread is not about battery chargers.
   I think that by now, if Rick was going to actually show us his device producing OU, he would have done so. Not just sitting around and watching a bunch of dim leds.
   And, I think that we know why he won't show the total output readings of his device, at least to the best of his abilities.
   
   TinselKoala:  Welcome to the troll party. Only trolls ask for true readings, so, welcome to the club. It's getting bigger by the day.

AlienGrey

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1250 on: July 14, 2019, 05:08:39 PM »
I wonder! is this video off topic ? Some might very well think not ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ar7vovnH5I

rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1251 on: July 14, 2019, 05:28:13 PM »
Nick, we not just laughing at you little jokes, but at you as well.
I think it is now settled that you cannot prove things over the internet. You just want to perpetuate credulousness in incredulousness. I already have many videos. But I'll work on organizing them on a page. I doesn't matter what any video shows, you will still say the same thing. Just like when I answer all of your questions and then you just act like that never happened. So you and T are just the same. Just repeating the same things.
IF YOU WANT TO SEE METERED READINGS THEN COME HERE IN THE REAL WORLD AND BRING YOUR OWN METERS!!!
Where were you when I did all my demonstrations? I have at least 4 public meetings a year these days. Where were you when I gave boat rides? You guys would rather settle for a picture than the real world experience because you just live behind a screen in a fantasy.
Now why would people bother to try and prove something to you about something they already use. My customers don't care about these forums, and I don't care for anyone to push my products on these forums. As it is I can't keep up with the interest.
You wouldn't be so interested in repeatedly insulting me if you really believed what you say. So you only prove the opposite of what you type. You would have been better off to just move on to something else. But you are fixated with this. You can't put it down.


  Well, it looks like those happy customers are going to need that battery charger, for their OU tests.  Perhaps a few of the thousands of happy customers that Rick has mentioned, would like to share their self running or OU results, here. The ones that bought his device, not the battery charger. As this thread is not about battery chargers.
   I think that by now, if Rick was going to actually show us his device producing OU, he would have done so. Not just sitting around and watching a bunch of dim leds.
   And, I think that we know why he won't show the total output readings of his device, at least to the best of his abilities.
   
   TinselKoala:  Welcome to the troll party. Only trolls ask for true readings, so, welcome to the club. It's getting bigger by the day.

a.king21

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1252 on: July 14, 2019, 05:39:54 PM »
Mr Tinsel Koala:  I would be very interested in your comment on the following picture.

Hoppy

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1253 on: July 14, 2019, 05:56:01 PM »
Mr Tinsel Koala:  I would be very interested in your comment on the following picture.
That's got to be a red rag to a bull.  ;D

NickZ

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1254 on: July 14, 2019, 06:57:55 PM »
That's got to be a red rag to a bull.  ;D

       But, they would make for nice Christmas lights.
   NOTICE : how Rick avoids the subject concerning scope shots and accurate readings. And posts more negative personal insults, instead.   I doubt that TK will let that one go by, unnoticed. Troll club revolt.

AlienGrey

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1255 on: July 14, 2019, 07:00:34 PM »
Mr Tinsel Koala:  I would be very interested in your comment on the following picture.
Yeah I can get as much light out of a 1 Watt LED from wicks for 2.5 euro !! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1256 on: July 14, 2019, 07:48:32 PM »
never thought i'd say this but glad to see Tinsel Koala show up here.   if rf really had anything he'd post a circuit with details and parts list that could be replicated by some of the better builders here.   then they could verify if there was ou.  that won't happen though

NickZ

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1257 on: July 14, 2019, 07:53:24 PM »
   So, Rick asked me where I was when he was giving all those group chats. Well I guess that I was right here, (below).
Trying to figure out how to light my house on flea farts, by replicating Dr. Stiffler and other guys OU systems.
   The third image is showing the lighting of two AC 120v 8.5w gutted and modified grid bulbs, on a tiny and I mean tiny 13.6MHz crystal oscillator. Which will light my house, almost as bright as the grid.
   Of course, you can't prove anything over the internet, according to Rick. We can agree, on that.

Hoppy

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1258 on: July 14, 2019, 08:01:29 PM »
never thought i'd say this but glad to see Tinsel Koala show up here.   if rf really had anything he'd post a circuit with details and parts list that could be replicated by some of the better builders here.   then they could verify if there was ou.  that won't happen though
He's frightened of us conducting a serious technical analysis of even one of his 15 OU devices by him showing meaningful scope shots. His get-out / excuse is more than likely that his devices cannot be properly measured by conventional instrumentation. The more he carries on with this attitude, the more he will be derided. Words alone are not cutting it for him. 

rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1259 on: July 14, 2019, 08:02:53 PM »
How can you verify if someone has OU through the internet? You can verify in person if someone has something. You can verify to yourself that you have done something. But you can't verify to anyone else that you have verified someone else in person, and also then verified it yourself in person to people over the internet.
I have already provided parts and instructions.

never thought i'd say this but glad to see Tinsel Koala show up here.   if rf really had anything he'd post a circuit with details and parts list that could be replicated by some of the better builders here.   then they could verify if there was ou.  that won't happen though