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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 282872 times)

Offline a.king21

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #840 on: June 30, 2019, 02:32:38 AM »
  Rick:   It's funny because the link you just posted was what I had typed out from your circuit diagram so I could find the video.  Anyway I was going to post the circuit diagram because some people want to look at a circuit.
So here is Rick's circuit which is basically Tesla.  A flat hairpin circuit maybe??
I assume that the motor can be replaced with a solid state ssg type circuit which I would like a kit for......
Anyhow if  I'm wrong I am sure I will get a rebuke from Rick.  But some of us  do like solid state.....
The diagram takes a lot of study and I suggest you watch Rick's vid.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3JyRMdJhzg&feature=youtu.be


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #841 on: June 30, 2019, 02:51:35 AM »
Maybe modify your post to refer to this picture instead. I forgot to add my name to it.

  Rick:   It's funny because the link you just posted was what I had typed out from your circuit diagram so I could find the video.  Anyway I was going to post the circuit diagram because some people want to look at a circuit.
So here is Rick's circuit which is basically Tesla.  A flat hairpin circuit maybe??
I assume that the motor can be replaced with a solid state ssg type circuit which I would like a kit for......
Anyhow if  I'm wrong I am sure I will get a rebuke from Rick.  But some of us  do like solid state.....
The diagram takes a lot of study and I suggest you watch Rick's vid.
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #842 on: June 30, 2019, 03:27:59 AM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #843 on: June 30, 2019, 11:34:41 AM »
Hi Rick,


thanks for posting your schematic, see for me now everything's clear. It's what I did as my first option, the parallel resonant option I mean. Now that's why there's hardly any voltage to see, the load is inserted in series inside the parallel tank, where there's only oscillating current, the only voltage is the one developed by the load itself, across it's own impedance. What are those led modules rated for anyway? Your drawing of the resonant setup (on the right) is a bit confusing, is it supposed to be two distinct coils? One with core? Or one coil with a secondary? I know different ways to extract the energy from a parallel tank, I'm just not sure which one you're referring to with that drawing.


When at resonance the tank just looks like an almost infinite impedance to the SG coil output, so since the SG coil discharge adapts to the load impedance we get very narrow HV spikes. We could actually remove the output battery and replace it by a wire if we wanted to, just have to be careful not to fry the components :) . It's actually a 2 wire system pulsing a resonant tank which we extract some power off of the resonant reactive oscillations. Yes, we could put more tanks in series, but wouldn't it be much better putting more (infinite) parallel tanks in parallel? I think this is what Kron is showing, right? I'm not sure yet about the added series coils he shows between each tank, but I suppose it's a way to separate them from each other while all of them still keep having the same effect on the generator as just one tank: depending on frequency we can get to a point where the generator current becomes (almost) zero, but all the tanks are at full oscillating power! Am I seeing this correctly? In the end it's all about hitting as many tuning forks as possible with one trigger.


As for me getting emotional, yes sometimes it can happen. Like I wrote earlier, I've been at this for quite awhile now. There comes a moment where you say ok, now I either get something working, or I get back to having a life... Oh, and I agree with what you said in your last paragraph, I'm well aware, when I meant change the world I meant from the bottom up...


@Whatisit:  I hope you can see what I was talking about earlier now that Rick has posted a schematic.


thanks,
Mario

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #844 on: June 30, 2019, 12:23:49 PM »

I did some tests looking for sympathetic resonance (sorry for he pronunciation in the video) between 3 new coils setup in line with the big coil.

12.4V on the gate driver, 3700V on the big coil in resonance (180Khz).

The 3 coils in line with the big coil each have a 3W led attached which it lit according to their distance to the big coil.

Changing the distance inbetween the 3 new coils does not influence the last not lit led.
Only when putting the middle coil ontop of the last coil its led comes on dimly.

Not sure this is sympathetic resonance or plain transformer action, i guess the latter.

Video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8pl1KxBq90


Itsu
 


An upfront sorry for the possible off topic and/or boring contents of the next post / video's.

I was trying to dive into this effect i had (see quote) which shows the led going on on the 3th satellite coil
when the 2th coil was ontop of it, NOT when it was close together to it.

I thought that it would be the coupling which could be stronger that way, so i did some tests with 2 of these coils.

First test is with my Spectrum Analyzer and Tracking Generator.
Feeding 1 coil with the TG (sweeping from 9KHz (minimum) to 400KHz (so the 193KHz resonance frequency in the middle)
and "listening" on the other coil with the SA.

The coupling between these 2 coils can be monitored that way.
Video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbK8U_CmsJE


Second test was a similar one, now using the FG on one coil (sweeping) and the scope on the both.
The screenshot below shows the overcoupled situation (yellow the driven coil, blue the receiving coil.)
Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI6JszIDG4Q


It seems that we both overcouple the coils in a similar way, so no or very little difference in coupling strength
when putting the both coils side by side or ontop of each other.

So why the led on the 3th coil in the quoted setup did light up only when the 2th coil was ontop is still unanswered to me.


Next i will try to follow Gyula's comment to see if the top coil receives more power because of its elevated position.


Itsu

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Offline benfr

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #845 on: June 30, 2019, 12:51:10 PM »
Hi !
Can someone telle what is referred to as PLL ?
Rick, an Atelier is a workshop, and I mean a video workshop, on the  themes that I have enumerated. (One for each theme). I have not precised this but was thinking with off the shelf parts. It is not spoonfeeding...in certain categories of trainings, when the area covered is far somehow from the expected knowledge basis and experience of the trainees, a straightforward method  is provided, which may  include very  precise specifications on parts. In  such case, the example and practice come first, the understanding after. That is how I have been trained  by Zdenko Domancic on Bioenergy Domancic method, a first class method  of hands-on healing adressing very  popular  said  incurable affections. That is also exactly what you have created with the Rick kit , ie specific  parts coming with specific  instructions delivered  with the theory. So I see more of the same with sort of kit extensions, which I named Ateliers...

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #846 on: June 30, 2019, 01:15:02 PM »
Hi !
Can someone telle what is referred to as PLL ?
Rick, an Atelier is a workshop, and I mean a video workshop, on the  themes that I have enumerated. (One for each theme). I have not precised this but was thinking with off the shelf parts. It is not spoonfeeding...in certain categories of trainings, when the area covered is far somehow from the expected knowledge basis and experience of the trainees, a straightforward method  is provided, which may  include very  precise specifications on parts. In  such case, the example and practice come first, the understanding after. That is how I have been trained  by Zdenko Domancic on Bioenergy Domancic method, a first class method  of hands-on healing adressing very  popular  said  incurable affections. That is also exactly what you have created with the Rick kit , ie specific  parts coming with specific  instructions delivered  with the theory. So I see more of the same with sort of kit extensions, which I named Ateliers...
PLL Phase Locked Loop perhaps, abbreviations annoying for the unfamiliar and should really be declared  celavive (such is life)

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Offline benfr

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #847 on: June 30, 2019, 01:21:54 PM »
Itsu, no it's atually very interesting your  method To sweep To find the resonance point ! +I have answered why to your question imho.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #848 on: June 30, 2019, 01:24:19 PM »
PLL Phase Locked Loop perhaps, abbreviations annoying for the unfamiliar and should really be declared  celavive (such is life)

Thanks AG. You mean "c'est la vie"  ;D

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #849 on: June 30, 2019, 02:22:29 PM »
Thanks AG. You mean "c'est la vie"  ;D
yes I do Thanks (so es das leben)

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #850 on: June 30, 2019, 02:45:54 PM »

An upfront sorry for the possible off topic and/or boring contents of the next post / video's.

I was trying to dive into this effect i had (see quote) which shows the led going on on the 3th satellite coil
when the 2th coil was ontop of it, NOT when it was close together to it.

I thought that it would be the coupling which could be stronger that way, so i did some tests with 2 of these coils.

First test is with my Spectrum Analyzer and Tracking Generator.
Feeding 1 coil with the TG (sweeping from 9KHz (minimum) to 400KHz (so the 193KHz resonance frequency in the middle)
and "listening" on the other coil with the SA.

The coupling between these 2 coils can be monitored that way.
Video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbK8U_CmsJE


Second test was a similar one, now using the FG on one coil (sweeping) and the scope on the both.
The screenshot below shows the overcoupled situation (yellow the driven coil, blue the receiving coil.)
Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI6JszIDG4Q


It seems that we both overcouple the coils in a similar way, so no or very little difference in coupling strength
when putting the both coils side by side or ontop of each other.

So why the led on the 3th coil in the quoted setup did light up only when the 2th coil was ontop is still unanswered to me.


Next i will try to follow Gyula's comment to see if the top coil receives more power because of its elevated position.


Itsu
Itsu Hi this device your Researching and Developing there is another Don Smith
board built on a section of plywood off cut I have seen whilst surfing the net  for other 'stuff',
the board i saw also had a Neon Driver converter module on board capacitor and HV diodes
what i'm getting at here is wouldn't the main out put coil be driven by an impulse pre driver circuit timing like a bunch of caps ? With the inductance the pulse would most probably appear as a sine wave eventually.

Regards AG

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #851 on: June 30, 2019, 02:58:50 PM »
yes I do Thanks (so es das leben)
"That is life" or " so ist das Leben"  !



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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #852 on: June 30, 2019, 03:51:30 PM »
Very interesting tests your are performing ITSU.
 Now I look forward to a test where you insert the (sweeping) signal to the big coil (serial resonanse) and make signal detecting with the scope or else on the two Satellite coils besides or on top of each other. In the same way as before. Parallel and 10kOhm.
About the puzzling question about the LEDs:
Is that refering maybe to some LEDs voltage threshold level (knee) that you come just above when putting the coils on top of each other?

Regards Arne

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #853 on: June 30, 2019, 04:02:41 PM »
Very interesting tests your are performing ITSU.
 Now I look forward to a test where you insert the (sweeping) signal to the big coil (serial resonanse) and make signal detecting with the scope or else on the two Satellite coils besides or on top of each other. In the same way as before. Parallel and 10kOhm.
About the puzzling question about the LEDs:
Is that refering maybe to some LEDs voltage threshold level (knee) that you come just above when putting the coils on top of each other?

Regarda Arne
Hi Arne,
Yes, there can be differences between forwards voltage specs of LED bulbs even within the same batch,  this is one thing.

The other question is why the induced voltage in the bottom coil increases when he puts the other coil on top of it, both coils are in the outermost position.  A possible explanation can be the TX coil produces a stronger field at that hight for top coil and due to the mutual coupling between the top and bottom coils, induced energy can increase in the bottom coil.  This is a possible explanation.

Gyula

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #854 on: June 30, 2019, 04:08:29 PM »
gyulasun
I agree with your reasoning I have thought of the same.

Arne

 

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