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Offline itsu

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #435 on: May 15, 2019, 11:12:41 AM »


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That's an awesome setup itsu. Congratulations. I can see you went for the big coil as presented by Rick on his video. It is looking like it.
1. Do you have voltage loads like bulbs/LEDs to light at resonance with the small input ?
2. Did you buy the gate driver somewhere or you built it ? I am interested to know about the schematics if you please.

Hi Benfr,

I tried to copy the big coil as close as possible with the stuff i had laying around.

1.  No, i did not tried any bulbs/LEDs yet as i need to modify my (small) satellite coils to be able to work on this
    lower (180KHz) frequency the big coil runs on.
2.  I build the gate driver (IXDD614PI), data sheet link below, on page 6 its schematic (modified in red below).

 

https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjWiorHlp3iAhXSKVAKHbODDF8QFjAAegQIABAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ixysic.com%2Fhome%2Fpdfs.nsf%2Fwww%2FIXD_614.pdf%2F%24file%2FIXD_614.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0jMQGV7M_9EMUPFTFA9SHT

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #435 on: May 15, 2019, 11:12:41 AM »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #436 on: May 15, 2019, 12:12:49 PM »

2.  I build the gate driver (IXDD614PI), data sheet link below, on page 6 its schematic (modified in red below).




Thanks itsu !
The credit of the gate driver for the amplification of the disruptive discharge goes entirely to Richard Friedrich, without him I would be unlimitedly farther from the truth of unlimited energy. ;D and in turns, this comes with credit from Nikola Tesla , and Don Smith, as far as I know.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #437 on: May 15, 2019, 12:36:43 PM »

Hmmm,

the gate driver for the amplification of the disruptive discharge ("disruptive discharge" being your words for
a square wave if i understand that right), was designed by some clever Electrical Engineers many years ago,
so credit has to go to those EE's only.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #437 on: May 15, 2019, 12:36:43 PM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #438 on: May 15, 2019, 10:01:08 PM »

Running the gate driver on 18V at 250mA, so roughly 4.5W input.

Voltage across the caps (thus L) reach 4.518kV see screenshot.

A satellite coil (163uH) tuned with a 4.7nF cap on top of the big coil resonates at 180KHz and lights up a 12V / 3.5W led bulb
see picture.

The idea is to have more satellite coils (15 - 20) placed near to the big coil all lighting up such a 12V / 3.5W led bulb
while maintaining or even lowering the 18V / 250mA input (4.5W).

Of course leds are notorious for lightning up on small spikes so carefull measurement on their consumed power
needs to be done.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #439 on: May 16, 2019, 12:30:19 PM »

The idea is to have more satellite coils (15 - 20) placed near to the big coil all lighting up such a 12V / 3.5W led bulb
while maintaining or even lowering the 18V / 250mA input (4.5W).


Itsu

Exactly. This is the output multiplication of bread by Jesus Rick Friedrich was referring to in his RICK kit :

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #440 on: May 17, 2019, 10:39:07 PM »

Running the big coil without any probes attached and tuned for max. (180KHz) when the gate driver is at 9V.
I get 160ma input at this 9V, so we have an input power of 1.4W into the gate driver.


Adding a RX or satellite coil (DC out into a 3W led) detunes the big coil but after retuning we loose 40ma
due to lower Q, i guess, and thus lower voltage across L and C.
Input now 9V @ 120mA = 1.08W.

Measuring this satellite coil shows we have 2.7v @ 52mA = 140mW into the led.

Adding another satellite coil shows the initial satellite coil looses 10mA.

It looks like the same thing is happening as with the earlier tested smaller TX coil.
The more satellite coils to be added, the less power is left to be divided among them.

I will try to continue to test with all 5 or 6 satellite coils to get this confirmed.


I also tried to put 2 satellite coils in line, one behind another, but i did not notice any retransmitting effect.


Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFf3v13t-9I&feature=youtu.be

Itsu


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #442 on: May 18, 2019, 05:27:11 PM »
http://www.spigellab.com/2016/07/12/basic-teslas-experiments-part-4-measuring-power-consumption-300w-motor-and-wireless-power/

Itsu does much  better than this video by actually measuring input power consumed as well as output power delivered to the load. The presenter in the video never shows input power calculations.

The presenter should not even have mentioned 300 Watt motor as it is not consuming 300 Watts as it is essentially unloaded. Rather it is consuming 69 Watts or less depending on distance between Tx/Rx. (distance lowers capacitance coupling)

As far as wireless power, the power is transmitted via the large capacitance formed by the tin plates on the high tension nodes  and the return path is using ground wires. It will not work efficiently without the ground wires to complete the capacitively coupled circuit, so it is not a truly wireless transmitter / receiver pair.

Just because the capacitance between the nodes is invisible to the eye does not mean that it is not there completing the circuit.

If you remove the tin foil plates and replace them with a high voltage capacitor of equivalent pF connecting the two high tension nodes, would you still call the system "wireless" ?

An air core transformer setup such as Itsu has demonstrated is closer to the definition of a "wireless" power transfer system.

In more general terms any transformer (even 60Hz iron cored types) reasonably  isolated from primary to secondary and not requiring grounds or relying on capacitance coupling is much closer to the definition of a truly "wireless" power transfer system.

FWIW
Regards
« Last Edit: May 18, 2019, 09:05:42 PM by Vortex1 »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #443 on: May 18, 2019, 05:37:51 PM »

Thanks Tomd,    looks similar as what we are doing here.



To be more specific on my used leds and to show how easy it is to be deceived by leds, here i made a graph
showing my used 3V/3W led in a black box fed with DC voltage and measured by a small photocell.

The above reported 140mW will light up such a led to about 2/3th of its max. allowable light strength.
Meaning at about 5% of its max input it will already produce 66% of its output.

So if someone says he uses 3 or 4 or 5W leds at considerable light, this by no means mean that they use 3 or 4 or 5Watt.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #443 on: May 18, 2019, 05:37:51 PM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #444 on: May 18, 2019, 10:08:15 PM »
As promised earlier, i tested with 5 satellite coils around the big coil.

I tuned again the big coil for max resonance at 180KHz (9v @ 110mA = 0.99W input).
The 5 satellite coils leds are on again rather brightly.
But the one still measured for voltage and current now shows 2.63V @ 23mA for 60mW power.

When we roughly take this 60mW times 5 we get 300mW total consumed by the leds which is about 1/3 of the
power available at the input (COP = 0.3).

So we went from:
1 coil running at 2.7V @ 52mA = 140mW to
5 coils each running at 2.6V @ 23mA = 60mW (300mW total).

60mW on the graph shows still about half the max. brightness of such a led.

video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmx2HMYI95E 

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #445 on: May 19, 2019, 06:53:16 PM »
Itsu,#443 :
                     66% of its output  = measured in lumen/Watt. ?
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #446 on: May 19, 2019, 07:17:03 PM »

LancaIV,

measured in mV output of a little solar cell.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #447 on: May 19, 2019, 07:31:10 PM »
#440 satellite coil to LED : 140 mW (2,7 V,52 mA)

#443 LED to Photo cell : 1450 mV ,    mA  for getting output 66% ?

               
                                       

       

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #448 on: May 19, 2019, 08:57:12 PM »

LancaIV,

Please state your questions clear.

I understand you ask for the amount of mA's through the led when it was characterized with DC in my black box
at the 1450mW (66%) photocell output data point.

The nearest Excel data point is at 1400mV / 134mW (see graph) which shows:
 
  V        mA    mW    PC V   PC mV
2,679    50    134    1,4    1400

So at 1450mV (140mW) it must have been slightly higher then 50mA, so about 52mA.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #449 on: May 19, 2019, 09:41:50 PM »
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPhotometer
I am only wondering me about the photoelectric efficiency from LED power light conversion to Photo cell and the measured and indicating value  !

 

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