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Offline kolbacict

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #375 on: May 04, 2019, 10:13:53 PM »
I understand that imperceptibly. But if there will be a million  or more....

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #376 on: May 04, 2019, 10:29:56 PM »
I understand that imperceptibly. But if there will be a million  or more....
Hi kolbacict,
What would you do if the man-made energy sources (i.e. radio and tv transmitters) would finish transmitting by any reason?
Where would you take energy from then?

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #377 on: May 05, 2019, 12:02:35 AM »
Hi kolbacict,
What would you do if the man-made energy sources (i.e. radio and tv transmitters) would finish transmitting by any reason?
Where would you take energy from then?
The same as Morey did the surroundings
J Dove explains here.

but not to me  ;D
good to hear from you.  Also glad to hear your progressing on Nelson's new circuit.  Also, I think the reason you and Nelson got sick was because it's kind of like a electron sucker or vacuum so it Hoover's up all the surrounding electrons from whatever or whoever is in the vicinity.
 When you put on the grounding wrist strap that then allowed the ground to replace the ones you lost so as to restore balance in your body. Maybe the floating ground isn't big enough or try it with a real ground connection.  Is just my thoughts on it as I haven't built it.
Original at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCJU9_yiN-A 

 

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #378 on: May 05, 2019, 10:52:24 AM »
Hi AlienGrey,

The Moray device has been suspected to use radioactive material (I do not know). 

The Nelson circuit sounds to be harmful as per the mail you quoted.

So back to square one, as always. ?

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #379 on: May 05, 2019, 05:05:53 PM »
Hi AlienGrey,The Moray device has been suspected to use radioactive material (I do not know).  The Nelson circuit sounds to be harmful as per the mail you quoted.

So back to square one, as always. ?
Have you ever come across some of these Most Haunted 'places' where torches and video cameras
suddenly become drained 'battery exhausted' and remote voices etc well Moray talks of that sort of goings-on?

Perhaps Moray quotes some strange things happen in his beyond the light document
depending on the frequency used and that's why an earth is required as Dove explains further back in another video on Nelson's replications.
AG

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #380 on: May 05, 2019, 05:24:10 PM »
Still doing some tests, but i cannot create more ouput in the receiver coils then stated earlier.

What i did notice with my hall sensor probe is that the max. RF coming from the TX coil is at its bottom, so the inverse as from a tesla coil.

The receiver coils are wired up the same way, so i guess they "expect" this max. RF at their bottoms too.
At least when i turn around a receiver coil its output decreases compared with its normal position.

Itsu
Hi Itsu

Your real world testing agrees with my simulations of your setup in LTSpice.

I won't bother to post the sims as few believe LTSpice simulations anyway, although the sims generally agree very closely with real world bench tests.

Is anyone convinced yet that this idea has no merit as a method to OU? I guess not. It will live on and resurface from time to time with each new generation of snakecoil peddlers.

Regards

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #381 on: May 05, 2019, 05:43:42 PM »

Hi Vortex1,

thanks for your response, i would like to have your sim if possible so i can tune it to see if i can
improve upon it on the real thing.

Yes the result is kind of disappointing i think.
700mW input versus 100mW output (eff. 14%) is nothing to get enthusiastic over.

Anyway, i tried one last thing with this setup and that is replacing the 50 Ohm
load resistors by 10mm leds.

Perhaps when "seeing the light" will provoke a more enthusiastic response then those
chilling realitycheck input/output calculations did.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej9l0jCiYCE

Itsu

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #382 on: May 05, 2019, 06:11:16 PM »
Dear Itsu.

I'd like to thankyou on behalf of all our members for your contributions.

Cheers Graham.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #383 on: May 05, 2019, 06:20:07 PM »

Thanks Graham,

perhaps after the weekend ends some more reactions with usefull hints will appear so i can investigate
somewhat further with this setup.

Itsu

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #384 on: May 05, 2019, 07:16:20 PM »
Hi Vortex1,

thanks for your response, i would like to have your sim if possible so i can tune it to see if i can
improve upon it on the real thing.

Yes the result is kind of disappointing i think.
700mW input versus 100mW output (eff. 14%) is nothing to get enthusiastic over.

Anyway, i tried one last thing with this setup and that is replacing the 50 Ohm
load resistors by 10mm leds.

Perhaps when "seeing the light" will provoke a more enthusiastic response then those
chilling realitycheck input/output calculations did.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej9l0jCiYCE

Itsu

Dear Itsu

You will always get a more enthusiastic reception if you can "dazzle the eyeballs" with LED's, and usually lots of them. Then it is possible to inject erroneous ideas while the subject is mesmerized. This is a common device of tricksters.

Now,  I wonder if we know anyone that does that as part of their M.O.?

You can certainly expect a large cadre of individuals to show up and inform you of the correct grade and type of pixie dust that you must sprinkle on your test setup to get the desired OU effect.

Regards

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #386 on: May 06, 2019, 12:13:21 AM »
Itsu good craftmanship!
As this experiment is using a [almost] square  wave input we can first estimate roughly a minimum of 15 -20 percent loss [ see your Spectrum Analyze ] only depending of wasted overtone energy that will never be sucked into the secondary coils if I'm right. The Secondary coils are only tuned to one tone, the first (over)tone.
To check if I'm right. Pls. make a spectrum reading at the point before the diode bridge. But without the diode bridge and with a 50 Ohm load.  Strong first tone and weak (no) overtones.
If you see strong overtones there with similarity to  the primary emission, then I'm wrong. Not enough filtering! Maybe good in your eyes.
See also my previous impedanse matching suggestions.
 If you are able, make some efficiency tests with 3, 4, 5 sec. coils to see and evaluate, predikt if a much greater number of secoday coils maybe will improve the effectiveness.
In my eyes the main issues here are impedanse matching, the primary wave form and LED:s  ::).
If you still belive that the sharp square waveform is a must for the best result then the secondarys have to be constructed in a different way so they are able to take on, suck up All harmonics. Of course only valid if I'm right. Good filtering now.

Regards Arne
« Last Edit: May 06, 2019, 09:28:02 AM by seaad »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #387 on: May 06, 2019, 10:30:16 AM »

Thanks Arne,

i see where you are coming from with those harmonics etc., it sounds logical to me.

But the square wave signal (rate of change) seems to be a vital part of this setup it seems (its not my idea by the way).

The resonant TX coil will produce a strong sine wave on the resonant frequency which will be picked up
by the RX coils on their (same) resonant frequeny and thus filtering that frequency out.
So i expect to see (Spectrum wise) only a resonant frequency signal on the RX's.

But i will see what i can do, it involves some modifications to the setup.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #388 on: May 06, 2019, 04:03:51 PM »
Thanks Arne,

i see where you are coming from with those harmonics etc., it sounds logical to me.

But the square wave signal (rate of change) seems to be a vital part of this setup it seems (its not my idea by the way).

The resonant TX coil will produce a strong sine wave on the resonant frequency which will be picked up
by the RX coils on their (same) resonant frequeny and thus filtering that frequency out.
So i expect to see (Spectrum wise) only a resonant frequency signal on the RX's.

But i will see what i can do, it involves some modifications to the setup.

Regards Itsu
Here read this you might find this could help you if not already known or clear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferroresonance_in_electricity_networks

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #389 on: May 06, 2019, 04:30:49 PM »
Here read this you might find this could help you if not already known or clear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferroresonance_in_electricity_networks

That article specifically addresses iron core transformers hence ferro-resonance. Here we are talking about air core transformers which do not exhibit this effect.

Ferro-resonance is typically used in transformers to provide a degree of voltage regulation. (CVT's)

A slightly higher Q might be obtained if ferrite rods, Litz wire and low dissipation factor capacitors such as vacuum or mica types were used. The ferrite rods would allow fewer turns for the same inductance, thus cutting down on copper resistive losses. Nevertheless, the power coupling would still be less than 100%. The efficacy of the improvement would depend on frequency as ferrites also get lossy at higher frequencies so there would be an optimum frequency point where benifit could be achieved for a given ferrite material type.

Alternately the air core coils could be made of silver plated thin wall copper tubing as used in radio transmitters to keep losses low and Q high. Still it will be less than 100% power transfer.

Regards

 

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