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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 280593 times)

Offline gyulasun

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #930 on: July 03, 2019, 06:29:08 PM »
A.king,
would you mind answering the rest of my questions?

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Cold electricity:  Let us say you light up a 4 watt 12 volt led lightbulb.  Under normal conditions it would heat up.  Even if your voltage was low there should still be a slight heating effect.  That is ordinary or conventional electricity.
When you light up the same bulb using high frequency and/or an earth ground utilising Tesla single wire technology, the bulb lights up cold.
ie no heating effect which should be present.  Secondly it dips in temperature to varying degrees depending upon the circuit. This effect also happens on the RICK (Resonance induction coupler kit) under certain conditions.  It most certainly happens using a Slayer output to bulb and earth ground in a series configuration.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #931 on: July 03, 2019, 06:55:01 PM »
I did not use any equipment to check the readings. I mention the effect because you cannot prove anything over the internet. It is for others to repeat the experiment and comment.  I am happy it went cold. So replicate it if you can.  That's my message.
I gave the information for free.  I did not have to. Simple as that.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #932 on: July 03, 2019, 06:55:14 PM »
Rick,

What is wrong with my being optimistic in this sentence on extra energy:  "I never wrote that obtaining excess energy is not possible at all.  I do have an open mind and I believe that a circuit setup can surely be built which can produce extra energy compared to its input we feed in. So far your setup in question does not seem to produce any extra output."

On your reverse argument with mentioning the law of conversation of energy, I find this interesting you mention this law.

Was it not you who wrote this in your Reply #561:
"So we have at least 8W of measured power with 0.75W or less input." ? 
Is this not an over unity claim? Where is the law of conversation of energy in your case? 


Some technical things for a change if you do not mind:

You mention in some of your posts that the input DC current to the gate driver IC decreases as you place more and more RX coils around the TX coil. Would you tell why exactly the input current goes lower? 

A.king wrote this in Reply #334 on the role of the gate driver, I quote it here:
"The innovation by Rick is in the gate driver, because it causes a more disruptive discharge.  The disruptive discharge is  something which Tesla championed.  In this case it produces a larger magnetic field.
The difference is without the gate driver and  with the  frequency generator that has 20V PP you only get 250V PP on the transmitter coil, but 1300V with the gate driver @ 9V. So the gate driver dramatically increases the gains because of the fast rate of change.
This happens at  resonance of course, and you can see the increase on the scope shots.
The purpose of the disruptive discharge is to increase the rate of change.


My question to you would be: what exactly insures a larger EM field coming out from the TX coil when a gate driver is used? Do you agree with A.king's explanations?  Anything else to add?

Gyula

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #932 on: July 03, 2019, 06:55:14 PM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #933 on: July 03, 2019, 07:00:49 PM »
Thanks for the answers.  Rick blames me not being scientific and whenever I ask for scientific results I am refused.
Why is that ?

By the way, this is an open forum.  I did not know about giving information for money is the habit for you.

Gyula

I did not use any equipment to check the readings. I mention the effect because you cannot prove anything over the internet. It is for others to repeat the experiment and comment.  I am happy it went cold. So replicate it if you can.  That's my message.
I gave the information for free.  I did not have to. Simple as that.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #934 on: July 03, 2019, 07:09:51 PM »
Thanks for the answers.  Rick blames me not being scientific and whenever I ask for scientific results I am refused.
Why is that ?

By the way, this is an open forum.  I did not know about giving information for money is the habit for you.

Gyula
There you go twisting my words. I do not charge for information. I think you have some issues, or you are being paid to impune free energy research.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #935 on: July 03, 2019, 07:15:01 PM »
Hi Itsu,

Yes, the picture you mention in member Seaad's post (#890) shows many coils and they surely influence each other.   
But look what Rick wrote about his setup earlier, when he was commenting his own pictures showing about 75 coils
around the big red coil (Seaad's picture came from A.king who took it from Rick's video, shown with some more coils):
  from https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg535253/#msg535253

And look what he wrote to me yesterday:

So Rick knows better what I understand from your video than I myself do. LOL The many years of our cooperation on this and other forums is enough for making only assumptions.  Go figure.  Now it is my turn:  hahaha

Just keep up your excellent work! 

Gyula

Gyula,

i do not read Rick's long posts, nor see his long video's, i just don't have the stomach for it.
I bravely start reading or looking, but after a few sentences or minutes i am lost and have to give up.

Its probable me as i have the same with most of AG his posts.


Most if not all i know from my present setup came from Benfr and A.king21 as they were feeding me snippets from posts and video's.
Not ideal, i know.


Anyway, i am glad we are on the same wavelength and have been for years.

I will try to do some sympathetic resonance frequency tests with more then 2 overcoupled coils and involve
temperature tests to see if anything gets cold.


Thanks,   itsu


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #936 on: July 03, 2019, 07:41:46 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMQqnaWUA98


I assume this is related to Rick's energizer technology  -for those who have never seen the video.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #937 on: July 03, 2019, 07:46:37 PM »
Hi, Itsu
Interesting reading Itsu, but I don't lie i might get Waylaid by other's who BS  ;D
However one lithuanian guy the ''master'' explains a lot and unless ''''''it's''''''' done
in the front end 'katcher' your wasting your time same in this thread as the truth
exploits a Tesla fact he noticed from over head trams!

When you have 'that' then you do what your doing with the 'coils' katcher to grenate
not the other way round.

AG

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #938 on: July 03, 2019, 07:49:26 PM »
There you go twisting my words. I do not charge for information. I think you have some issues, or you are being paid to impune free energy research.
Well, I misunderstood you then, sorry.  Why did you write you had given information for free? 

Yes, I have issues with any unfounded claims, that is all.  I have no problem with free energy research.

Gyula

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #939 on: July 03, 2019, 08:02:38 PM »
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Anyway, i am glad we are on the same wavelength and have been for years.

I will try to do some sympathetic resonance frequency tests with more then 2 overcoupled coils and involve
temperature tests to see if anything gets cold.

Thanks,   itsu
Hi Itsu, 

You are welcome. 

Small comment: maybe for achieving the sympathetic resonance you would need quite a few RX coils, perhaps you receive information on the approximate number of coils  for the phenomena to manifest. 
If you do not have enough ferrite rods (or loopsticks from old AM pocket radios) for tuning the RX coils you could use toroidal cores just a single one (or stacked ones if their permeability is low) scavenged from discarded PC power supplies or any other 'gadget'.   Also, simple cylinder shaped ferrite tuning 'slugs' would also serve for fine tuning the coils.  You can wrap such cores up in foam or airbag material and put inside the bobbins for fixing them temporarily while tuning. 

Gyula

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #940 on: July 03, 2019, 08:09:15 PM »
Coils at all angles.  ha ha lol

So you have been able to light all the coils even at right angles (for instance 2 paralel tanks), well well done ! This is to me like the "environment conditioning and bringing overunities" that Rick talked about many times...noticeably in the kit...congrats, and thanks !

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #941 on: July 03, 2019, 08:18:08 PM »
Hi all
I'd like to ask Rick about the series inductor impedances which serve as a stand alone reaction loops. Each connecting point between those inductances...Is that a point that we have to pay more attention like building for example reactive loops with specific lengths of wire harmonically related?

Thanks
Jeg


Interesting Jeg. I believe yes. The tesla impedance circuit/ said hairpin does it exactly if I'm correctly understanding it. Also mentionned by Rick.
Specific lengths shall create the harmonics, I believe too. Hence the concept of 1/4 wave length...which I'm working on also.


Is that an effect that relates to the amounts of the extracted free energy?
Thanks
Jeg

I would say yes. That's exactly how to extract the resonance amplified voltage / amperage to use it. The kit shows how to do that. For instance, the kit shows you how to extract the free energy to light a 95 V neon bulb from a mere 9 V input. (as the amperage stays the same; which the kit shows how to measure, too).

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #942 on: July 03, 2019, 08:38:10 PM »
Hi Itsu, 

You are welcome. 

Small comment: maybe for achieving the sympathetic resonance you would need quite a few RX coils, perhaps you receive information on the approximate number of coils  for the phenomena to manifest. 
If you do not have enough ferrite rods (or loopsticks from old AM pocket radios) for tuning the RX coils you could use toroidal cores just a single one (or stacked ones if their permeability is low) scavenged from discarded PC power supplies or any other 'gadget'.   Also, simple cylinder shaped ferrite tuning 'slugs' would also serve for fine tuning the coils.  You can wrap such cores up in foam or airbag material and put inside the bobbins for fixing them temporarily while tuning.


   Guys:
   Perhaps, it would help to space the coils evenly all the way around the main coil. As in winding turns on a torroid coil, which helps to fill the whole circumference. On small coils in the MHz range I've used pencils to help help tune the coils with. But, itsu's coil are much wider, so pencils may not work as well.
   Gyula:  If you don't watch out, you'll be in the ranks of a troll, like AG, and me.
   Itsu:     I think that I get the same stomach problems...                                                                                    NickZ

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #943 on: July 03, 2019, 08:48:02 PM »
Hi Itsu, 

You are welcome. 

Small comment: maybe for achieving the sympathetic resonance you would need quite a few RX coils, perhaps you receive information on the approximate number of coils  for the phenomena to manifest. 
If you do not have enough ferrite rods (or loopsticks from old AM pocket radios) for tuning the RX coils you could use toroidal cores just a single one (or stacked ones if their permeability is low) scavenged from discarded PC power supplies or any other 'gadget'.   Also, simple cylinder shaped ferrite tuning 'slugs' would also serve for fine tuning the coils.  You can wrap such cores up in foam or airbag material and put inside the bobbins for fixing them temporarily while tuning. 

Gyula

Gyula,

i have now 8 new coils, and will build another 2 to come to 10, which according to A.king21 is the minimum needed
amount of coils for the effect to manifest.

The ferrite won't be the problem,  i have enough like you mentioned, my problem is that they only tune 1 way, down,
so i don't see how they can be very usefull, but i will try to find out.

Together with an ifrared thermometer, gauss/emf meter and a ground wire at some specific points (??!!) we should
see some magic soon.

Itsu

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #944 on: July 03, 2019, 08:56:33 PM »


 Guys:
   Perhaps, it would help to space the coils evenly all the way around the main coil. As in winding turns on a torroid coil, which helps to fill the whole circumference. On small coils in the MHz range I've used pencils to help help tune the coils with. But, itsu's coil are much wider, so pencils may not work as well.
   Gyula:  If you don't watch out, you'll be in the ranks of a troll, like AG, and me.
   Itsu:     I think that I get the same stomach problems...                                                                                    NickZ

Hi Nick,

good idea,   like in this post (see video there)?
https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg535768/#msg535768


Itsu


 

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