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rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #795 on: June 28, 2019, 06:59:52 PM »
Well AG, I already gave you a lot of detail about how grounding affects things.
Secondly, I don't know what JB you are talking about because John Bedini certainly talked and we did experiments with grounding in the early years. John even posted much information on Stubblefield. So you look silly now making these statements about JB. It shows you were not around or didn't know John's teaching at all. Maybe you found some quote you misunderstood, or maybe he changed that history as well as he did with the big 1971 lie. But we did even ground the SSG monopole which allowed for gains. This is something I may get back to showing as we did 15 years ago.
Anyway, Bedini has proven to be a liar so nothing he said can be trusted. Obviously many things he said were true, like anyone. But he can no longer be quoted as some authority. What you are doing here is railing upon A like he is a kid, which he isn't actually. You needlessly insult him for merely suggesting to try grounding. You even do it in reference to getting back to Tesla. This shows you have never even read Tesla. I mean, have you ever seen one of his patents or circuits? They are all grounded or implied grounds. Did you not realize that The True Wireless article, which was one of his last major articles, which gives a history of his works and a rejection of the Hertzian system is actually a through the ground transmission. This is grounding in the extreme!!  ::) So now you have lost all credibility here. That was why I was confused. I wondered if it was a mere joke. But then I see your response to A and now to me. You are just digging yourself deeper and deeper into folly. I don't get how you could have said any of those sentences about grounding being nothing, about Tesla, and now about Bedini.
Maybe you are confused about what is positive energy and in relation to oscillating energy that we are dealing with in resonance tank circuits. I don't know but it is a matter of fact that you can have benefits from grounding in these processes. Certain Bedini and Tesla taught that.
Not even sure what you mean by the last question either. Negative electricity is really not something. It is more of a way to try and communicate that energy is converging into a negative resistor along a certain path. It is not traveling down a path like current. That is the theory. Current dissipates along a path and the meter measures the rate of dissipation in A and V and W. But negative processes are not measured as they appear directly from the Aether into the negative resistors without time delay at all, instantly. That is the theory. It would seem like magic to mainstream people who assume it is just current flow. So I guess what is missing from negative electricity is current flow. It is opposite phenomena/characteristics/results. But certainly grounding has a major influence upon such processes.

What i'm saying is how will an earth connected to a sine wave change anything in or on a 'positive electricity' JB says that in countless videos the answer is it wont.
What I couldn't figure out was what is missing from 'negative electricity' ? ? ?

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #796 on: June 28, 2019, 07:11:42 PM »
Well AG, I already gave you a lot of detail about how grounding affects things.
Secondly, I don't know what JB you are talking about because John Bedini certainly talked and we did experiments with grounding in the early years. John even posted much information on Stubblefield. So you look silly now making these statements about JB. It shows you were not around or didn't know John's teaching at all. Maybe you found some quote you misunderstood, or maybe he changed that history as well as he did with the big 1971 lie. But we did even ground the SSG monopole which allowed for gains. This is something I may get back to showing as we did 15 years ago.
Anyway, Bedini has proven to be a liar so nothing he said can be trusted. Obviously many things he said were true, like anyone. But he can no longer be quoted as some authority. What you are doing here is railing upon A like he is a kid, which he isn't actually. You needlessly insult him for merely suggesting to try grounding. You even do it in reference to getting back to Tesla. This shows you have never even read Tesla. I mean, have you ever seen one of his patents or circuits? They are all grounded or implied grounds. Did you not realize that The True Wireless article, which was one of his last major articles, which gives a history of his works and a rejection of the Hertzian system is actually a through the ground transmission. This is grounding in the extreme!!  ::) So now you have lost all credibility here. That was why I was confused. I wondered if it was a mere joke. But then I see your response to A and now to me. You are just digging yourself deeper and deeper into folly. I don't get how you could have said any of those sentences about grounding being nothing, about Tesla, and now about Bedini.
Maybe you are confused about what is positive energy and in relation to oscillating energy that we are dealing with in resonance tank circuits. I don't know but it is a matter of fact that you can have benefits from grounding in these processes. Certain Bedini and Tesla taught that.
Not even sure what you mean by the last question either. Negative electricity is really not something. It is more of a way to try and communicate that energy is converging into a negative resistor along a certain path. It is not traveling down a path like current. That is the theory. Current dissipates along a path and the meter measures the rate of dissipation in A and V and W. But negative processes are not measured as they appear directly from the Aether into the negative resistors without time delay at all, instantly. That is the theory. It would seem like magic to mainstream people who assume it is just current flow. So I guess what is missing from negative electricity is current flow. It is opposite phenomena/characteristics/results. But certainly grounding has a major influence upon such processes.
Rick my friend  could you please remove all the pre assumptions you have supposed of me you recognise as insults and please leave me with the facts if you wouldn't mind, if that's not to much trouble or do you do it so you don't have to answer my questions ?
By the way so who is the guy stood behind J Bedini in video 7, he does look alot like your self. Also it's well known good advice not to earth devices such as this type of experimental device in order to avoid lethal shock in some instances.
A word of advice it's not a good idea slagging people off who can no longer defend them self especially if they are deceased.

a.king21

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #797 on: June 28, 2019, 07:35:09 PM »
Rick my friend  could you please remove all the pre assumptions you have supposed of me you recognise as insults and please leave me with the facts if you wouldn't mind, if that's not to much trouble or do you do it so you don't have to answer my questions ?
By the way so who is the guy stood behind J Bedini in video 7, he does look alot like your self. Also it's well known good advice not to earth devices such as this type of experimental device in order to avoid lethal shock in some instances.
A word of advice it's not a good idea slagging people off who can no longer defend them self especially if they are deceased.
You obviously have not seen the video.  If you did then you would see his name come up.  For the record it is Rick Friedrich.  Now I know you have never watched video 7  - no wonder you are confused

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #798 on: June 28, 2019, 07:38:09 PM »

Hi Rick,


I did read your reply after I said it clicked, I haven't replied yet because I first wanted to be able able apply it on my circuit to see if I've actually reached the moron level ;D .
In an earlier post (quote below) you explained how to power the primary of your wireless kit. Sorry for this stupid question, but some people say series tank when they actually mean a parallel tank, because the coil and capacitor are actually in series closed upon themselves. But just to be sure, did you mean A or B of the attached schematic?


thanks,
Mario

The starting point of the kit is to have a frequency generator send a square wave to a fast mosfet driver. It's output will have the red wire go to the inductor which is in series with a capacitor, whose other leg is attached to the common ground (which is many times earth ground). That is a series tank resonant circuit when tuned to the right frequency.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #799 on: June 28, 2019, 07:43:33 PM »
You obviously have not seen the video.  If you did then you would see his name come up.  For the record it is Rick Friedrich.  Now I know you have never watched video 7  - no wonder you are confused
Now we are playing kids games games, what is wrong with you don't you want to get a device working ?

Happy now ?

a.king21

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #800 on: June 28, 2019, 07:48:29 PM »
AG No games from me - just facts.  Try this fact for size. It's a clip from video 7    Try to show some respect to those  who we have on the forum.  Chances like this don't come along very often.. and can easily go way.  Hmmm maybe that's your plan?  or are you just an AI bot?

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #801 on: June 28, 2019, 08:02:24 PM »
PACK IT UP NOW ! your in the uk, what you are doing is illegal !

NickZ

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #802 on: June 28, 2019, 08:45:32 PM »
   AG:   Well it's official now, you are just a AI bot.  And in the early stages of becoming a full on troll, like me. 
   Welcome to the club...
   Rick, yes, I lied.  I'll be around... no place to go. This forum has been like home to me, so...   However, I do appreciate your various replies to all of us, concerning your ideas.
   And just a reminder, that it's best to keep personal issues, at bay. And focus on the technical aspects.
   I do apologies to you for asking for proof of anything, previously, I'll try to avoid that.   Have a good day.                                NickZ

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #803 on: June 28, 2019, 09:06:55 PM »
Showing a still from a video is not illegal  AG.  Troll troll troll

a.king21

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #804 on: June 28, 2019, 09:19:21 PM »
INTRODUCING THE MORON LEVEL OF COMPREHENSION..taken from the yahoo group


https://energyevo.com/2015/01/18/updated-compilation-of-important-info-don-smith-shared-to-nuenergy-yahoo-group/


However I will argue that Don Smith did not  invent the effect.   It was invented by Carlos Benitez. Benitez stated that when pulsing one plate of a capacitor, the other plate automatically charges up from the ground.( Benitez then switches the ground on and off mechanically creating an energy pump.
To the EE's present who have not been taught correctly  -  it is called "Electrostatic induction"  -  Look it up.
It is usually glossed over as  unimportant.  Nothing to see here -  move on (lol).






« Last Edit: June 29, 2019, 03:50:33 AM by a.king21 »

AlienGrey

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #805 on: June 28, 2019, 09:28:49 PM »
Showing a still from a video is not illegal  AG.  Troll troll troll
No but Cyber stalking and harassment is when you have bean asked to cease hostilities!
you have been warned.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #806 on: June 28, 2019, 09:51:37 PM »

rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #807 on: June 28, 2019, 10:32:49 PM »
Haha  ::) I'm not worried about you guys. I know this is also a places to have some fun and not get too serious. My British friend may not agree in relation to that. For me, I call everyone out on things, including myself. I don't worry when people attack or make major mistakes because we can all learn from such things. FYI, I have never talked to a hard skeptic that I talked to for any length of time without them shaking my hand once they got to know me. I always win the debates because winning not concurring but actually making sure we all benefit and improve in the process. And of course I don't debate about things I haven't thoroughly investigated and felt compelled to press. All other things I have everything to learn, even things I have mastered I always have more to learn. And we learn also about human nature. Haha, so even if people hate me they at least find me interesting.  ;D

As for AG, I think he may be a little ambiguous with his words because I am not sure at times the exact meaning. So I don't take the words seriously then. Now it just seems like he's sitting back having a beer and laughing maybe. That could be possible and I leave room for that. Maybe he'll wake up and realize that didn't make sense what I said yesterday. But my last response to him showed that he didn't know Tesla or John at all, or how all this works. And I really didn't expect that from him. Not even sure of what he was exactly saying to me in his last response. Was the questioning about my picture one of sarcasm, or was he asking if I was the same guy? Or was he trying to make a point that because I was beside Bedini that therefore that was a bad thing? I really don't know. People need to be a little more clear because they end up being misunderstood. When people are ambiguous I just ignore what they say because what can I do about? Judge their intentions but what I guess? No. So maybe he is just really sloppy with his words. Certain by insulting A that was not good. What was the point of that?

As for sticking to the tech side, well that really isn't what all this is about. 90-95% of this is psychological, games, fun, diversions, fallacies, assumptions, unverifiable facts, etc.  There is no purely factual context in cyberland. That is why I have burst this bubble of deception. There is no way to prove or disprove OU on the internet. Come to grips with it people. Wow, there should be a big load off people's backs now. All this is just information gathering, and otherwise fun and games. While this can have very serious implications it doesn't have to be boring either. It should be civil but it never has been when there is no moderation. So you make do within that.

Again, I don't worry what people say because I really am not trying to prove anything. No I can point to some things that can prove a point, but they are only in the real world. I point to historical facts that you can verify for yourself. I pointed out DVD7 when I could have kept that to myself. This was a big revelation both in regards to the teaching and the fact that Aaron never mentioned it (especially in the Advanced book advertised on every screen in this forum) and that John is quoted as absolutely contradicting what he published on the front of the book several years later about his big 1971 lie claim. So no one else pointed such significant things out online. And everyone would have been deceived unless I showed this very good and very bad thing from this DVD. So that is now two significant things I have proven by means of the internet, but which merely drew attention to the real world facts that you can all verify for yourselves. So I am proving things to you that are very relevant. I don't do this to gain trust but people trust me for such reasons. And as you say that I do take the time to try and help. I am not emotionally reactionary either. In person you would all give me a hug if you knew me.  :) But online I can be unsparing. You can interpret my words according to the tone you want to hear. But I say many things in jest as you can see and I don't take things as personally as people would think. Even Aaron, I can laugh about his picture of me, and I can still point out some good things he has done. I am not reactional to people. I react to illogic and fallacy. As for motives, who really knows why people say and do what they do? There is no  reason to trust people over the internet. I have probably only met a few of you guys on this thread but I still don't know you. I don't think you even know each other. But you foolishly believe each other so easily, and disbelieve just as much. And I just shake my head  ::)

Anyway, there is nothing more to say. You guys have everything now. If you start with what I wrote yesterday then you can proceed with caution. But if you continue to ignore that and play the chasing after circuits in hope of finding gold game then you are just running around in mainstream circuit loops that you will always pay for. Yes it is addicting to just spend your time making efficiency improvement circuits. It is a hobby that none of you can really justify to your wives. Is it really worth it to hang out for years on forums and have nothing to show for it? I don't have time for that. I've taken time to share all this in hope that it will do someone good. But I must go back to the real world and help real people where I can. So I can't help you guys if you are not willing to read and apply that foundational starting point. It may be too much to expect people to change their foundations and actually do some work rather than just copy what someone else has made in a circuit. I will never do that because I want you guys to really learn how to make all the free energy systems. Just build your house upon the rock and not the sand (which is what you guys are doing, and every year the water washes everything away).

   AG:   Well it's official now, you are just a AI bot.  And in the early stages of becoming a full on troll, like me. 
   Welcome to the club...
   Rick, yes, I lied.  I'll be around... no place to go. This forum has been like home to me, so...   However, I do appreciate your various replies to all of us, concerning your ideas.
   And just a reminder, that it's best to keep personal issues, at bay. And focus on the technical aspects.
   I do apologies to you for asking for proof of anything, previously, I'll try to avoid that.   Have a good day.                                NickZ

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #808 on: June 28, 2019, 10:38:36 PM »
Haha, I would argue that his writing this was not the best example of talking about being above moron level. He really didn't try too hard to polish his words and I think that besides this examples of his frequent strokes, he really was pushing away the prestige jargon people with his down to earth words. I have carefully analyzed his words more than anyone, and I have a lot of appreciation for him. That is partly because I have replicated his stuff. This is vastly important page here if you don't let the wording stumble you. This is a central theme with Don systems. You will not realize how much until you actually replicate things.
Hey, we are all less than morons. Who do we really think we are anyway?

INTRODUCING THE MORON LEVEL OF COMPREHENSION..taken from the yahoo group


https://energyevo.com/2015/01/18/updated-compilation-of-important-info-don-smith-shared-to-nuenergy-yahoo-group/


However I will argue that Don Smith did not  invent the effect.   It was invented by Carlos Benitez. Benitez stated that when pulsing one plate of a capacitor, the other plate automatically charges up from the ground.( Benitez then switches the ground on and off mechanically creating an energy pump.
To the EE's present who have not been taught correctly  -  it iis called "Electrostatic induction"  -  Look it up.
It is usually glossed over as  unimportant.  Nothing to see here -  move on (lol).

rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #809 on: June 28, 2019, 10:42:25 PM »
But Don didn't say he invented it, just that he got to name it. He did make very specific inventions with this and we should have no problem calling it the DSE. Just like the SSG means something to everyone now and will not go away. Also the Selfish Circuit Loving Paths was created for the same reason. To identify an important idea so that everyone could benefit.

However I will argue that Don Smith did not  invent the effect.