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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 232013 times)

Offline itsu

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #615 on: June 18, 2019, 09:53:41 PM »
  Itsu:
2 points immediately spring to mind.  By using supercaps you are missing the Heavyside component  I would first try it with batteries and analyse the result over several hours if not days.
Secondly you are  not getting the energy from the electrons in the ground.  It is a hard concept to understand that the ground can replicate to and add to some extent the energy you already have.


Then we have to exclude mains bleed, because these circuits can pick up energy from your house mains wiring.
You also have to mess with the positioning of the coils because the magnetic fields emanating from the coils can reduce the input draw  as I have experienced.


Anyway I will look at your video in due course.

Additionally you should move your coils away from the tX coil.  The way I understand it is like this:
If the satellite coils are almost touching the TX coil then it acts like a normal transformer.
If you move them out say 5 to 10 cm out  then the device acts like the Don Smith setup and you can duplicate the energy.
Also adding an earth ground  amplifies the energy.


This is what we are trying to prove.

A.king21.

thanks for the advice, but i don't buy (yet) that "By using supercaps you are missing the Heavyside component".
It can take days or even weeks with batteries to see some effect.

I tried putting the satellite coils further away from the big coil, but it does not matter much.
The supercap voltage still drops.

Also adding an earth ground to the top or bottom of the big coil does not do much other then the need to retune.

The supercap stack voltage still steady drops.

Please show us positive results using your setup so people are stimulated to experiment for them self.


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #615 on: June 18, 2019, 09:53:41 PM »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #616 on: June 18, 2019, 10:35:53 PM »
The  title is misleading.
There is no OVERUNITY never existed  and  will  never exist.
apart from effect of refrigeration systems where   we can go "over unity"
https://www.quora.com/How-does-the-cop-of-refrigerator-is-greater-than-1
that is nothing out there.

That is why theory is needed for any practical  device   showing energy on output grater  than energy delivered.
The statement here is that such systems  dont exists and never existed.
Yes....
You see it in the device ...
But that is the energy that is  coupled to the device  and converted to  form of energy  that you are able to  observe.

The  lack of understanding but all of that< seek to attain > or accomplish  practical designs,  comes from  believe not from scientific  facts .
I  was  in freedom to  share 80% of  information    about energy  extraction of Schumann Waveguide
another 20% belongs to dr Hans. and he  may   agree  to share it with the audience.
However I was ask  to prove, that  Dr. Hans skepticism  is unfounded.
And till  now  he  was  right.
Crowd is  not interested even in working concept if it drives them to  unfamiliar area.
In the  same time Viziv is going well with its billions dollars from Chevron.

It's  a  shame but  to seek to attain or accomplish, or trying to beat the bushes  over public interest ...one  must have 
at least some crowd  near by "brain ready" to act.

Quote
Dr Hans:
Who  you   want to tell it? Who is willing to act upon?
A  house wife?
A construction guy?
A  car mechanic?
An  electrician?
The last one,  if he emigrated from  eastern Europe, where education was  not unidirectional like in EU or USA  ..yes he  is  the right guy.
So no surprise that most of these guys  are  experimenting  out there.
The key to success is deficit.
Wealth and comfort is  only making people  to buy and  replace.
So    Viziv is  working  checked, proven  and  financed now  - at this very moment.
Viziv is the key to understand not only  phenomena  of  using earth to send  electrical energy from point A to B.
Viziv technology is the key to your real  Free Energy.

Surface wave in the Interface  is basic  knowledge   for you to go than ... to Schuman  Waveguide energy extraction .
And that energy is  manifested  in the interface in  form  of Zenneck  Wave  .
That energy comes  from natural  energy fluctuation inside of the Schumann Waveguide, but by its properties   it does not differ from
man  made surface  wave

The  very much  disappointing fact  :
That what I'm talking  you  about,
is the most proven  - both  scientifically  and  practically
and yet nobody is  willing to  check it  out.



Wesley



 



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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #617 on: June 18, 2019, 10:44:48 PM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Offline rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #618 on: June 18, 2019, 10:51:50 PM »
Wesley,
I'm having trouble understanding your context and some of what you say. Did you type this on a phone or use a translator? Not sure how I can check something out as you urge when I have no idea what you are talking about.
Rick

The  title is misleading.
There is no OVERUNITY never existed  and  will  never exist.
apart from effect of refrigeration systems where   we can go "over unity"
https://www.quora.com/How-does-the-cop-of-refrigerator-is-greater-than-1
that is nothing out there.

That is why theory is needed for any practical  device   showing energy on output grater  than energy delivered.
The statement here is that such systems  dont exists and never existed.
Yes....
You see it in the device ...
But that is the energy that is  coupled to the device  and converted to  form of energy  that you are able to  observe.

The  lack of understanding but all of that< seek to attain > or accomplish  practical designs,  comes from  believe not from scientific  facts .
I  was  in freedom to  share 80% of  information    about energy  extraction of Schumann Waveguide
another 20% belongs to dr Hans. and he  may   agree  to share it with the audience.
However I was ask  to prove, that  Dr. Hans skepticism  is unfounded.
And till  now  he  was  right.
Crowd is  not interested even in working concept if it drives them to  unfamiliar area.
In the  same time Viziv is going well with its billions dollars from Chevron.

It's  a  shame but  to seek to attain or accomplish, or trying to beat the bushes  over public interest ...one  must have 
at least some crowd  near by "brain ready" to act.
So    Viziv is  working  checked, proven  and  financed now  - at this very moment.
Viziv is the key to understand not only  phenomena  of  using earth to send  electrical energy from point A to B.
Viziv technology is the key to your real  Free Energy.

Surface wave in the Interface  is basic  knowledge   for you to go than ... to Schuman  Waveguide energy extraction .
And that energy is  manifested  in the interface in  form  of Zenneck  Wave  .
That energy comes  from natural  energy fluctuation inside of the Schumann Waveguide, but by its properties   it does not differ from
man  made surface  wave

The  very much  disappointing fact  :
That what I'm talking  you  about,
is the most proven  - both  scientifically  and  practically
and yet nobody is  willing to  check it  out.



Wesley

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #619 on: June 18, 2019, 11:33:09 PM »
You absolutely right.
My English  is perfectly  good
But You  have no idea  what I'm  talking    about.


For a very first time individuals trying to understand what is what;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ&t=2s
The Slave of the Future ( Kapanadze FE explained ) Part1

Try to watch it  few times. Each time you will find more.
Story starts in year 2024 than   it goes back to year 2019
It is 4K quality so  on the  right  side of the YouTube frame change resolution to 4K



And for 10months  everything is in My  own forum
Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum-also  known  as Notebook or Wesley's  Notebook

Everything is there  and people don't know about it.
It is  Kapanadze but in so  much  exotic form that they simply don't want to go there.

Here  is  the  list of applications  I  was  involved with:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg535421/#msg535421

Here is first part of practical guide to Energy extraction from Schumann  Waveguide( please  read few more posts)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg535174/#msg535174

Here is video that I have made  for people  like you  who have never been  introduced  to it.
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Remark#2
It is crucial  to understand    this  video  before part 2 is  published.
I suggest to watch  it few times -(portion   with graphical  explanation of it.) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ


Here is  explanation  why most of experiments  with Kapanadze, Akula,Ruslan failed 
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg534323/#msg534323

Here it is the unfortunate consequence of  success  in this  field
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg533398/#msg533398

Here  is set of links of Viziv  who is making patents like crazy now ( around one patent application per week)
1.supporting material to my previous video.
I suggest  to do not watch  it as it  will make  much  more difficult for you, to understand the concept-  unless you take it lightly.
this video should  be  watched as the  last  one.
 https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532548/#msg532548
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532316/#msg532316

Here you have more heavy stuff:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg531915/#msg531915
but that gives  you a lot.

Here you have picture of experimental  tower  you can  build.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530922/#msg530922

and here is original FCC license  James  Corum  was  experimenting with that is corresponding to to the picture
from above link
https://apps.fcc.gov/els/GetAtt.html?id=180909&x=.


Wesley

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Offline rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #620 on: June 19, 2019, 12:09:21 AM »
I know because I have emails from you. This makes more sense.
I have been invited to look at these things from various people that know you but I haven't had the time. Can you give me (and us) an overview of where you and associated people are at with all this? Are you powering anything? Making products? Where are you going with this? Are you looking for confirmation of these things on this tread?

You absolutely right.
My English  is perfectly  good
Wesley

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #621 on: June 19, 2019, 12:26:33 AM »
Can you give me (and us) an overview of where you and associated people are at with all this?
Are you powering anything?
Making products?
Where are you going with this?
Are you looking for confirmation of these things on this tread?
Nothing of that.
I have made very much clear  what my  intentions are.
Please go to:
Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
And  read my Reasoning section.
I don't need money, fame, confirmation, nor sale,
I'm associated with myself and few friends in science.
this  link was to  Part#1

Note: Part#2 is to be published

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Offline Jeg

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #622 on: June 19, 2019, 07:49:16 AM »
All coils are tuned to 180Khz resonance frequency.


Hi Itsu
As far as i know, DS was "banging" wires at their self resonant frequency. Meaning that we speak about tenths of MHz at least. By "eye" calculation of his device with the satellite coils, we speak about a frequency between 5 and 30MHz as a carrier frequency. IMHO, AM also might be of an advantage as someone can tune (diode demodulation) to the lower frequency information that the carrier is loaded.

Regards 

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #623 on: June 19, 2019, 10:15:25 AM »

Hi Jeg,

yes, i think looking at that DS fantasy device it probably was doing something in that 5 to 30Mhz range if
doing anything at all.

But the device or setup i am trying to replicate here seems to be working around 180Khz, so thats the frequency
i am tuning my coils to.

Itsu

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #624 on: June 19, 2019, 04:06:02 PM »
Hi Jeg,

yes, i think looking at that DS fantasy device it probably was doing something in that 5 to 30Mhz range if
doing anything at all.

But the device or setup i am trying to replicate here seems to be working around 180Khz, so thats the frequency
i am tuning my coils to.

Itsu
So lets get this right your trying to replicate DS's system ?  :o 8) ;D so what are you using for his SG and ramp circuit ?

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #625 on: June 20, 2019, 05:53:16 AM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #626 on: June 20, 2019, 08:03:47 AM »
While I have promoted Dr. Judy Wood as someone who has made some very good observations about what really happened structurally to the towers on 9/11, I feel that her zeal to equate it with this free energy research does none of us in this research any good. Hey look everyone, there is nothing different in getting free energy and turning 1,000,000 tons of buildings into dust! I think the linking of these two unpopular ideas doesn't help us, and was beyond the scope of her book. That will only be making a case why this research should be forbidden. This is really a mistake to use free energy claims in the context of such evil destruction when the idea of free energy is some kind of a useful gain.

You are not recommending we do a replication of that for confirmation are you???

My other concern with Wood's is her promotion of John Hutchison considering his work with the government with the Hutchison effect. She explains that it was this process that dustified the towers and created the effect that could melt metal while not burning paper (as seen in the world trade center Bible with melted metal around it on display--google image to see). The promotion of that specific work seems to be the same kind of error of the madness of Tesla in supposing a death ray machine could somehow be better for mankind because, of course, it would end all wars rather than destroy the world (because everyone in the world really loves each other and only wants the best for each other--especially those of the war machine and who profit from it).

Free energy exists:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtJhI4Cx5oc&list=PL_cJ8k_C3XEWi9IrA7dKse0vo8SE6J1oJ&index=5

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #627 on: June 20, 2019, 01:54:16 PM »
While I have promoted Dr. Judy Wood as someone who has made some very good observations about what really happened structurally to the towers on 9/11, I feel that her zeal to equate it with this free energy research does none of us in this research any good. Hey look everyone, there is nothing different in getting free energy and turning 1,000,000 tons of buildings into dust! I think the linking of these two unpopular ideas doesn't help us, and was beyond the scope of her book. That will only be making a case why this research should be forbidden. This is really a mistake to use free energy claims in the context of such evil destruction when the idea of free energy is some kind of a useful gain.

You are not recommending we do a replication of that for confirmation are you???

My other concern with Wood's is her promotion of John Hutchison considering his work with the government with the Hutchison effect. She explains that it was this process that dustified the towers and created the effect that could melt metal while not burning paper (as seen in the world trade center Bible with melted metal around it on display--google image to see). The promotion of that specific work seems to be the same kind of error of the madness of Tesla in supposing a death ray machine could somehow be better for mankind because, of course, it would end all wars rather than destroy the world (because everyone in the world really loves each other and only wants the best for each other--especially those of the war machine and who profit from it).
Well thank you Meredith. First i'm not sure you really know all the facts and unless you do I would suggest you don't as your out of your depth on this one, and this is really getting off topic, perhaps we should also discus extermination and genocide of the native americans and the controlling few that deliberately infected a large portion of its people with a sexualy transmited disease, don't you think. America isn't a country it's a militarized barbaric privately owned junta that needs to change it's ways.
G feel free to erase this rant post

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #628 on: June 20, 2019, 03:17:58 PM »
AG
 your indictments against the average citizens who inhabit various places on the globe ,and holding them accountable for the actions of the people who they are subject to [their governments]

truly have no place here.nor in any sane conversation.....
besides this is Ricks topic ATM

Chet K  PS and Grum has limited time to "clean up others messes"
Please remove this one too Grum.... :-[

 

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #629 on: June 20, 2019, 05:16:52 PM »
AG, I'm not really sure how to read you here. I didn't bring this up, and if you actually read what I wrote you would see that I am saying that it was bad thing to try and link free energy research with what happened in 9/11. Also that I'm not seeing the reason to bring it up here where people are wanting to replicate something. a.king21 brought this up. I'm not out of my depth here either and I am fully aware of all the genocide various countries are guilty of. I have been a voice against such evils all my life. While it may be true that such things have/are happening even your mistaken reaction ends up being an off-topic rant. I was just trying to draw attention to that with a.king21's post myself. Lighten up will you? Take some time to read what people say and not just react against them for some other reason.

Well thank you Meredith. First i'm not sure you really know all the facts and unless you do I would suggest you don't as your out of your depth on this one, and this is really getting off topic, perhaps we should also discus extermination and genocide of the native americans and the controlling few that deliberately infected a large portion of its people with a sexualy transmited disease, don't you think. America isn't a country it's a militarized barbaric privately owned junta that needs to change it's ways.
G feel free to erase this rant post

 

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