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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 529125 times)

rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2070 on: August 15, 2019, 08:51:29 AM »
That's all easy to say but you are wrong in reference to electrical claims that he demonstrated. His processes have long been used by many people over the last 100+ years. Your ignorance of that doesn't change this.

Again, you claim to be a god to know everything that has been done with all humanity. That is a real joke. The fact is that solar, wind and hydro do just that. There is no operator input. Once upon a time people like you would have said that about solar. There also cosmic energy transducers and several other conventional free energy systems. In your haste to attack you overstated your ignorant claim. There are in fact many electrical systems that require no operator input.

Yeah, aliens. That's about all we get from such words.

I've studied Benitez and Tesla.  They both have made premature
claims without sufficient comprehension of what they had
observed.  This was also true (erroneous claims) of many other
researchers from years ago.  Time will always tell.

You may not get your 20 minutes back but you'll be wiser for
having expended the time.  Over time as we acquire more and
more understanding our opinions change.  Yours will too.

As of this year 2019 there has not been a single soul in all of
humanity who has developed any electrical or electronic device
which will produce a sustained power output greater than its
input power requirement.

Daniel Pomerleau has been given access to a source of Free
Energy which is the same source accessed by the Secret
Programs.  Looking for Overunity or Free Energy in electric
and electronic devices is not where it is.  It is possible to
recover "wasted" energy in such devices by making them
more efficient by minimizing losses and much effort is devoted
to that pursuit.  Overunity it is not.

Think Alien Encounters.  Then you'll be close to the target.

SeaMonkey

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2071 on: August 15, 2019, 09:16:09 AM »
Rick,

It appears that you're suffering mightily from some sort
of emotional sting and have lost what should be an
objective outlook. :'(

Your responses are the typical, highly emotionally charged
denials of all who have gone before you.  Many words
conveying emotional hurt without anything scientifically
substantive to support your position. ???

It is only a temporary dilemma.  Time heals all wounds. ;)

By the way, what are your thoughts on the  Scientific Method? ???

Do you scrupulously utilize the Scientific Method in your
research efforts and allow it to guide you as you make
proclamation? :P

There is reason to wonder. ::)

rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2072 on: August 15, 2019, 10:12:21 AM »
What's with all the psychological games here? Just a big red herring again.

Rick,

It appears that you're suffering mightily from some sort
of emotional sting and have lost what should be an
objective outlook. :'(

Your responses are the typical, highly emotionally charged
denials of all who have gone before you.  Many words
conveying emotional hurt without anything scientifically
substantive to support your position. ???

It is only a temporary dilemma.  Time heals all wounds. ;)

By the way, what are your thoughts on the  Scientific Method? ???

Do you scrupulously utilize the Scientific Method in your
research efforts and allow it to guide you as you make
proclamation? :P

There is reason to wonder. ::)

SeaMonkey

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2073 on: August 16, 2019, 12:02:46 AM »
Quote from: Question from Rick Friedrich
What's with all the psychological games here? Just a big red herring again.

It's simply a test Rick.  You've never been probed before? :o

There is reason to wonder. ::)


seaad

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2074 on: August 16, 2019, 12:59:45 AM »
Maybe something to test here at confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims:

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  Aetherholic posted this 08 October 2018
So trolls and "debunkers" have a use after all!!!!.

One thing I would like to report at this stage is that my part G core as built is overunity without any feedback. The COP is between 1.2 and 2.33 depending upon load conditions. If anyone wants to debunk that then build one for yourself. It took great effort to build it so the same effort is required to debunk it. In operation its characteristics are a rectifier+magamp+battery+AC modulator+amplifier.

Aetherholic - One truth, One field

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  http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/clemente-figuera/?order=all#comment-113491cc-bb60-469a-9725-a88f0122b9ec

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP4nEyQHK1jTTNgpmOkkh5Oche8_8l7dvCAsBxWJQnPEx5QtSjdBVqdaFxbmOLz1w/photo/AF1QipOUUp9VujY2WsadgHKz8cv5yv3APWNLr3yCDKpC?key=YnZuaGFWekI2TlIyaURpSUpmZ25GTk1EWFQ4VHJ3

Arne

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2075 on: August 16, 2019, 02:52:23 AM »
Yes there are many very interesting devices .

 Its probably time to examine the fan and it use in evaluating work done .
Most fans especially ducted types and more specifically dc types are of brushless design and are fixed speed devices which, when loaded by a long duct will load up and draw more current .
Using them in free air with an anemometer held by hand is fraught with issues as in an unloaded condition the speed will be the same as will the airflow .
When one captures the excess when unloaded they are effectively reducing the ability of the fan to do work as in a long duct rather than in free air.
It would be different if the fan was a free running dc motor which was supplied say 10v when 20v would have it running much faster in unloaded condition.
It is hard to imasgine a well versed, articulate, educated ,well equiped researcher would not be aware of the nature of brushless dc fans .


The same test with the fan attached to a 20ft duct would be more revealing provided the anenometer was fixed.
 

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2076 on: August 19, 2019, 03:32:44 AM »

HI Stefan. In my quote which you included in your reply, and which you were replying to, I made it clear that I never stated that the voltage across
the coil did not change polarity. Again, I never stated that anywhere. What I stated about inductive switching spikes versus
BEMF/CEMF is correct. :)
Void,

Have a look again at this circuit:
http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/ac_theory/images/Protection-Diode.gif


For sure the voltage at the coil  did change, otherwise the diode can not conduct and supress the BEMF voltage pulse !
I guess you mixed something up.
The current through the coil does not change direction, it is just flowing into the same direction, but now through the diode, when the transistoris switched off...

Regards, Stefan.

AlienGrey

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2077 on: August 20, 2019, 01:25:22 AM »
Void,

Have a look again at this circuit:
http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/ac_theory/images/Protection-Diode.gif


For sure the voltage at the coil did change, otherwise, the diode can not conduct and suppress the BEMF voltage pulse!
I guess you mixed something up.
The current through the coil does not change direction, it is just flowing into the same direction, but now through the diode, when the transistoris switched off...

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan please don't be offended here but if that is true why is the flyback diode the other way round?  ;D
t's a nice try but for it to be any use you need  to stop the BEMF going back into the coil winding as it would keep ringing until exhausted and is all you can do with that energy is pump it back into the supply where it came from but because of its polarity it was generated with will always be less than it's supply.
But if you wanted OU BEMF you wouldn't do it like that.

However as with a relay coil or motor usually that doesn't matter.

PS for what the been done to OU you might as well erase my log in as it's utterly useless value now. bye!

Regards AG
« Last Edit: August 22, 2019, 09:50:18 AM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2078 on: August 22, 2019, 08:19:23 AM »
Hi Rick,


is your new website already up?


Mario

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2079 on: August 22, 2019, 08:38:44 AM »

hartiberlin

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2080 on: September 07, 2019, 01:13:36 AM »
Stefan please don't be offended here but if that is true why is the flyback diode the other way round?  ;D

http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/ac_theory/images/Protection-Diode.gif
This is the only around the diode works, otherwise if the polarity would be the other way around of the diode,the flyback diode would conduct the current instead of going through the coil...
So this is the only way it works and it shows that the voltage is reversing, so then the diode is conductingand cancels the high voltage away on the coil and the current in the coil does not reverse...
Regards, Stefan.

Raycathode

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2081 on: September 07, 2019, 08:02:37 AM »
Stefan please don't be offended here but if that is true why is the flyback diode the other way round?  ;D
t's a nice try but for it to be any use you need  to stop the BEMF going back into the coil winding as it would keep ringing until exhausted and is all you can do with that energy is pump it back into the supply where it came from but because of its polarity it was generated with will always be less than it's supply.
But if you wanted OU BEMF you wouldn't do it like that.

However as with a relay coil or motor usually that doesn't matter.

PS for what the been done to OU you might as well erase my log in as it's utterly useless value now. bye!

Regards AG
Amazing! This post was dated the 19th and 20th of August How come it has taken till now the 7th of September to appear?

I haven't seen this post appear prior to days date and AG sounds really PISSED off to say the leased  ;D ;D so one must ask when will the great 2019 moderation war end Chet refers to in ((((
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« Reply #21647 on: September 06, 2019, 08:09:44 PM »

    Quote

we have a lot less peeps here since the "RF" situation ......the great moderation's of 2019 ,have left a Void.[ a big empty space here where builders use to be.

Chet K ))
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Anyway, you are both appear to be talking about different things one about protecting the transistor and the other about making use of the flyback pulse.

PS Stefan is right and as an afterthought your collecting a positive impulse according to JB you always end up with less than what was originally used so no gain here and since this is an OU forum a far different approach would be required to my way of thinking.

Raymondo

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2082 on: November 01, 2019, 07:59:03 PM »
Hi,


did anybody visit Ricks meeting? Is the kit working...
Lots of people from this forum claim it that is all fake.
Maybe somebody was there and can give us a quick briefing, is
it worthwhile?


br

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2083 on: November 01, 2019, 08:56:31 PM »
Wellthis is a very touchy subject here ,and as of this writing ...it seems its still all a big secret ?

as nobody I am aware of can reproduce OU results [or share them]?
One open source inventor in particular spent 3 months trying to no avail... and if he had a sniff of success
there would have been resources spent towards this Indiana show .

would be good if any persons [AKing21 ??} could share something with a happy result ?or is Open sourcing forbidden ?
measuring too ?
to be honest one member did ask ,and he was making some suggestions as to why there was failure here ,i was not understanding his Direction but it went back to Anslie and a wrong turn ?? [her COP 17 claim] something about magnetic ??

I will call him back for more explanation and perhaps a fresh look ...and maybe Stefan can ask his friend if he had success with RF claim he was building.


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2084 on: December 19, 2019, 02:34:21 PM »
Hola chicos, yo soy nuevo por aquí y no pretendo generar polémica ni nada por el estilo, tengo varios experimentos realizados y les puedo asegurar que la energía libre existe, energía libre porque somos dueños de esa energía, dueños y no dueños, si somos dueños no seria libre je, he cargado baterías con back emf, usado motores durante meses sin que se descarguen las baterías, he cargado celulares, baterías y computadoras con mi bobina POE vortex, meti mi bobina POE vortex en un cloud buster (maquina de lluvia) y después de tres días de meterle frecuencia, salieron flotando 7 u 8 bolas de plasma de mi jardín, a unos pocos metros de mi cabeza, 3 metros de distancia, es como decir que la tierra donde vivimos no es libre, que no es nuestra, es tan nuestra como no lo es, tenemos responsabilidad de las cosas, que el sistema durante años, cientos de años se adueña de todo, eso es otra cosa, el sistema no nos hace libres, por eso nuestro pensamiento de las cosas, los artefactos se desgastan y eso produce que no puedan usarse infinitamente, si hay finito, hay infinito, vengo estudiando medicina china, nutrición naturista, educación física, tecnología, agricultura, de todo, y ahora electrónica, he visto mucho, y también he tenido experiencias de todo tipo, vivimos en un océano de frecuencias, vivimos en un campo magnético, ese campo magnético es lo estático (seria la cancha de fútbol), a partir de ese campo magnético comienza el flujo de energía radiante, esa es la parte dinámica (serian los jugadores de fútbol), siempre va a estar un polo y el otro, para que se junten en un equilibrio, ese equilibrio es el máximo punto de energía, eso es lo verde, la naturaleza, tenemos que romper nuestras estructuras mentales, liberar los pensamientos, o empezar por ahí, podría seguir contando muchas mas experiencias pero el mensaje se vuelve aburrido, es hora de empezar a dar el conocimiento, darlo sin costo, abrazo para todos