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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 236457 times)

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2010 on: August 10, 2019, 07:42:13 PM »
Here  Chet some lecture about renewable energy technology ( ultra/ low cost ) :
https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/
There are OU-searcher who does not know how expensive OU-devices actually are because the industrial pricesfor these devices are high ( capacitor/amorph metals/ cooper coils/ electronic et cet.).

Actually we are in the prototyping stage and not in the mass production stage ! With metals transforming 3d print technology whose produce motors,generator and transformer without salaries costs in the next ten years the semi-industrial "open source" production technology let decrease actual endconsumer prices for such OU-Tech by 75%. !

2030 : the 5  US$cent/ KWh electric becomes for private household electricity generation common !
At first 1 KW-devices = up to 8766 KWh per annum power generation
Development endconsumer  price target : 500 Euros/550 US$

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2012 on: August 10, 2019, 08:01:36 PM »
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« Last Edit: August 10, 2019, 10:18:56 PM by Raycathode »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2013 on: August 10, 2019, 09:55:02 PM »

IMO
We can do better than this “sharing “. that we see here!
 
Don’t think I ever watched  that  Music video
A member shared these Tesla Quotes  recently
evidence to substantiate the non-physical?

Here Tesla again speaking of the Aether
 “All perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the akasha or luminiferous ether, which is acted upon by the life giving Prana or creative force, calling into existence, in never-ending cycles all things and phenomena.”– Nikola Tesla, Man’s Greatest Achievement, 1907
  "The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.” -Nikola Tesla
 “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” – Nikola Tesla
“ End


I don’t know about  PRANA ? Everyone’s entitled to their own beliefs
Or lack of beliefs
 One thing we can most definitely agree on ..when it comes to this planet  human life and our survival
we should always do the next right thing.
 15 years is long enough Rick
IMO It’s 15 years too long.


Hoping Stefan will share his friends work



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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2014 on: August 11, 2019, 02:25:43 PM »
About commercial fan motor use before and after :
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/03/21/qm-power-electric-motor-pj-piper.html
"A recent test .... resulted in wattage use declining from 112,2 before the retrofit to 24,2 afterward.  ......"
                                                   
             before/after over-unity ratio : efficiency C. O. P. f.e. 112,2/24,2 = 4,6 ( times better e-use)
                                                             Commercial calculation :
                        "Up to 98% of the cost from an electric motor is in the energy it consumes ".......

New experience ? Dynamotors and Texas&Austin University study +- 15 years before : same result
https://www.google.com/search?q=dynamotors+variable+speed+drive&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
It would be easier - by the search for overunity devices-to make 1 Wh - 10 Wh - 100 Wh - 1000 Wh- storage capacity/ grid electricity and power use comparison :how long/prolong the power use  in time units for the same physical function !
An AA battery study : with fan as load
https://www.cinemasound.com/showdown-aa-battery-value-the-results-will-shock-you/

From 112,2 to 24,2 Wattage with qmpower motor :
        https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9318              FANERATOR
          120 Watt high velocity fan before/ after with qmpower motor ?

Fan blade performance with/out
https://www.google.com/search?q=pax+pacific+impeller&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

PMA 750 Watt generator to 1500 Watt generator :
          wind driven generator
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20130038069A1/de
       Peak/average "compressed air chamber turbine" C. O. P.  ?
                        Calculation :

660 Watt PMA generator  peak output x Factor 2 Akio Hara coaxial generator : 1320 Watt

divided by conventional fan motor consume.                                                               120 Watt = C. O. P.  11

divided by assumed qmpower fan motor consume.                                                      30 Watt = C. O. P.  44

+ fan blade performance improvement.                                                                                             C.O..P.  50  ?

Enough preservation between C. O. P.  = > 1 and =< 50  8)


Conventional PMA generator 660 Wattp output/ 120 Watt conventional fan blade motor consume - fan blade motor consume decreaser f.e.https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11462
660 Watt out/12 Watt in : peak C. O. P.  55

Conventional PMA generator and qmpower fan blade motor and  closed solar battery cycle energy source :   

https://patents.google.com/patent/DE3817730A1/en
Artificial solar meets artificial wind

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2014 on: August 11, 2019, 02:25:43 PM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2015 on: August 12, 2019, 01:38:47 PM »
OK


 Will be updating here tonight
 I did speak with the lab mentioned by Rick ( member Void asked me a question ..so I called )
 Will be speaking to Stefan  today also ( I hope )


For clarity I am behind timewise to many members here
 It is 8 AM as I type this east coast USA


Again remember what we do here

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2016 on: August 12, 2019, 07:10:03 PM »
Who are" the poor" and what they can afford monetary and in time invest  ?
FIRST TARGET : https://mtbest.net/energy_efficiency.html
                              800 Watt/h DC electricity per household and day delivery

                          Battery : 2028 1 KWh capacity for 10 US$ price decline
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carmart.ch%2Fumwelt%2Fpreise-fuer-batterien-von-elektroautos-fallen-massiv-in-10-jahren-90%2F

                          Battery Amperage source : 3 x hydro-carbon generator a 12 V/1,5 A

http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=FR&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=633752&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=fr&TRGLANG=en

                           
                           3 x (12 V x 1,5 Ah x 24 h ) = 1296 VAh per day

Each hydro-carbon generator < 10 US$ + 10 US$ battery = total battery-genset < 50 US$
                                                                 Affordable ?

Alternatively as battery source : Don Adsitts " earth battery " concept

https://web.archive.org/web/20070225160446/http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/
Goto "Main Menue" : 

        E-Bay and other Plans :  NO HYDROGEN NEEDED_FREE_ENERGY_FROM_THE_ EARTH

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2017 on: August 12, 2019, 07:58:11 PM »
Nelson
here  the membership has purchased (together through donations) oscilloscopes and equipment
here there are  people in the membership who donate equipment to people who experiment


It is only open source ...and only to people who open source their work
So yes absolutely you can take that to the bank if you’re going to open source and you need equipment
 just as in the past it will happen again.



There is something very strange in this conversation and I don’t know if it’s language barrier or something hidden
it needs to be spoken
brutal honesty is the only way forward


Hi Ramset,

Sorry about the delay in my answer but i'm a bit busy last days.
I really don't see nothing strange Ramset in our conversation , even any fault of honesty .We only have some difference opinions, and visions about some subjects but righteousness above all !

Answering you :

I know this fórum is Open source,.. but what i need to share exactly ?
 I already share some circuits in OU.  Maybe not what most of people want ..... but i share! You could search , and you will find , inclusive last time here a smart guy that decided  take profits from one of the the circuit i share. But that is other story .  But i understand that i’m ineligible …
 So could you tell me exactly what I would have to open source? Or what Others users share to receive support to have help to have 4 channel Scope  ? Only in this way i could understand the real meaning of help and share . Isn't that exactly what this is about? but at what price ?
I'm trying return to some of my last experiments, after i loose almost my equipaments in Germany, i am trying to get back to some projects that have been on the shelf, but it is not easy without some equipment and motivation.  Well we will see what happens in future .


All the best


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2018 on: August 12, 2019, 08:39:59 PM »
 Nelson

  I understand  yes it seems confusing ,I think we should talk ?
How to move forward?


 On the other subject I did speak With Stefan just now About my discussion with the lab this morning And I asked him also for an update on his friends Work.


I have to be honest I hesitate to type these words, but my long experience here with different members and their claims  makes this easier for me .


Yes the man at the lab did have a machine that he used to do job site work, it ran for a month and a half  and used batteries .
 The batteries had to be negatively conditioned (took 4 months to “treat” the batteries) and were extremely annoying to manage .
So little power for so many batteries , he was happy to be finished with the machine and glad when they were able to hook up to the mains  .


 Today I asked him wouldn’t it be nice to understand the mechanism that was at work , could we investigate this deeper ,We talked a bit about how to do that.


 It is hoped that this will happen here , I will be speaking with him again tomorrow about this .
Also Stefan will be coordinating with his friend for that  replication video ..to hopefully
Be shared here.
Respectfully
Chet









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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2019 on: August 13, 2019, 12:12:55 AM »
Chet,
Why the hostilites again?

What you say misrepresents what he experienced and said. You make it out like there was 4 months where he could get nothing out of the system as if it suddenly was able to be used. That is absolutely false and misrepresenting. The batteries get more and more conditioned as time passes.

Furthermore, he didn't have big batteries for that system. I believe they were only 100AH batteries. No doubt they were more than he wanted to use as he wanted a system without batteries. That old system normally uses much bigger battery banks. I have been showing how to use transformers instead of big banks.

Also, he was not so negative about the experience. The actual fact is that he built a massive house and he would have needed a much bigger setup to power it. In the end he would have still had to have over 10 times the battery bank with solar anyway.

Also, he was only doing the basic process and not the more advanced processes.

The point you don't wish to focus on is that it worked. You wanted a Lab to confirm this. You recommended that Lab. They said it worked. It wasn't want they wanted because they want something without batteries. But that is a starting point. It is a basic starting point. Most people here do not believe that is possible.

Nelson

  I understand  yes it seems confusing ,I think we should talk ?
How to move forward?


 On the other subject I did speak With Stefan just now About my discussion with the lab this morning And I asked him also for an update on his friends Work.


I have to be honest I hesitate to type these words, but my long experience here with different members and their claims  makes this easier for me .


Yes the man at the lab did have a machine that he used to do job site work, it ran for a month and a half  and used batteries .
 The batteries had to be negatively conditioned (took 4 months to “treat” the batteries) and were extremely annoying to manage .
So little power for so many batteries , he was happy to be finished with the machine and glad when they were able to hook up to the mains  .


 Today I asked him wouldn’t it be nice to understand the mechanism that was at work , could we investigate this deeper ,We talked a bit about how to do that.


 It is hoped that this will happen here , I will be speaking with him again tomorrow about this .
Also Stefan will be coordinating with his friend for that  replication video ..to hopefully
Be shared here.
Respectfully
Chet

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2020 on: August 13, 2019, 01:11:41 AM »
 Rick
you have your hair up for no reason, The batteries had to be treated / conditioned for four months prior to use
Then he used the system for 1 1/2 months  and it was a difficult thing to bring it back-and-forth from the job site every night with all the batteries .
 After all 2000 W on a job site ...one nice circular saw or chop saw and a drop light is what will run .


I state the facts and you accuse me of hostilities?


  Over the years I’ve heard other people mention odd behavior with batteries and I think it needs to be looked into
 David Bowling comes to mind  member Ciftfa  had an anomaly
 And of course all this we read here with batteries  and your old boss .


 I am hoping many more people come forward and share their stories and experiences (Stefan’s friend)


but first things first ...we try and understand what’s happening with the batteries ?


 If you would like to help ?.. that would be wonderful ..if not that’s OK too.
Not looking for any more conflict ,had plenty of that here already .


Definitely hoping more people come forward and share their experiences ,hopefully help others get there too.


And for additional clarity
when we first heard about your system From Aking 21 there were no batteries mentioned?
(that we were aware of )
To be absolutely clear... yes we don’t like batteries here
sure for a while it’s OK ...until we totally understand the gain
Mechanism.


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2021 on: August 13, 2019, 01:48:46 AM »
Well we have a starting point.
1 OU confirmed
2 All the Naysayers who were moderated were correctly moderated because they attacked without proof.


Now we have proof. Get over it Naysayers.  You lost the battle and the war


And I was right to promote Rick after I did my due diligence (over 40 hours of watching his videos and talking to him on the phone).


I did all that for you.


So I repeat what I said months ago.  We have a real treasure to mine here.  Be nice to Rick cos he has the goods we are all looking for.


Now it's time for me to get on with that Don Smith replication as I have also been sidetracked battling my corner. (and Rick's)

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« Reply #2022 on: August 13, 2019, 02:45:48 AM »
This testimony does not confirm OU for anyone else on this forum. It is not proof. It only confirms it for the people who experience it. But it is ironic that I was insulted for not having a Lab testimony, or for even resisting Lab testing, and then the very Lab that was suggest had already had the results that I claimed. This was the basis for the bulk of the insults. So now that that is realized you think that these guys really care about Lab results? No. It was just an excuse to attack. They will just ignore it an just go on as if this never happened. You see people, it is not about meter readings, proving OU in any way, real world or cyberworld. It is about people saying it is impossible, period. 

Anyone should be moderated if they are rude. But that is not going to happen. Those who were moderated were really extreme in the rudeness (I'm not sure who was all moderated and how that worked as I was not a part of that).

Well we have a starting point.
1 OU confirmed
2 All the Naysayers who were moderated were correctly moderated because they attacked without proof.
Now we have proof. Get over it Naysayers.  You lost the battle and the war
And I was right to promote Rick after I did my due diligence (over 40 hours of watching his videos and talking to him on the phone).
I did all that for you.
So I repeat what I said months ago.  We have a real treasure to mine here.  Be nice to Rick cos he has the goods we are all looking for.
Now it's time for me to get on with that Don Smith replication as I have also been sidetracked battling my corner. (and Rick's)

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2023 on: August 13, 2019, 03:19:30 AM »




 I will write more on this tomorrow
 Have a good night fellas.




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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #2024 on: August 13, 2019, 03:31:17 AM »
Chet,
You need to sit down in front of a computer and read carefully what people are writing here and then take the time to type out your points carefully in an actual reply. They phone typing is not working out here.

As for whose work is this, if you read what I actually posted or watched my videos I have shown the history of this technology.

Your beef with people in desperation is not with inventors and even with technology, but is purely political and about greed. These enjoy suffering and want a reduced population. The technology has long been around. But even the people who have it don't really care for the most part. Do people care about their health? No. They have the means to be healthier but they just don't care for the most part. You assume that 'To know the good is to the do the good', but that is just not what people do. This is very naïve.

You are ignorant about me. I have not had a boss for 20 years now. If you think Bedini was my boss you are really mistaken. He actually worked for me. I never worked for John or Energenx. I helped them out. Nor was anyone else my boss in any of this work or any other work I have done for the last 20 years.

You then say Rick's technology as if everything I do is strictly my technology. I have shown Benitez systems, Don's Systems, and many others. Did I say that it was mine? No. You really don't know what you are talking about Chet. You said you don't understand electrical systems so I suggest that you keep your thoughts like this to yourself. Because it is not helping anyone.

Selling what secrets?? Not sure what you are talking about. So I'm supposed to work for free but everyone else is commendable for selling labor and services. Yet, here I am sharing for free and then you mock me here as if I am not doing that.

What are you doing? So far all I hear is words.

You're just being dramatic here. All I hear from you is assumptions. You say you don't understand electrical technology. You don't know the history. Yet you make all these judgments. You don't even seem to care if you are accurate. You say one thing on the phone and then a few days later you are back at it.

You misjudge the problem. The truth was long ago told by Tesla. You need to take some time to learn basic electrical systems and then read the important 1891, 1892, and 1893 Tesla lectures. Then you have it. If you really cared like you say you do then you would stop all this judgmentalism and do your homework and share the good news that is old news. But it is easier just to attack people isn't it Chet. Blame someone else than yourself. Assume that they aren't doing anything or sharing anything. Again, just useless words. Nothing positive or helpful. Just tearing down instead of building up. Gloom and doom.

Here the man that Rick shares his work from , who’s work it actually is ?
I have no idea
 This claim predates the Internet .
But here something drastic has changed ...here it has apparently become all right to watch people starve..to watch animals go extinct ...to watch a planet be destroyed  or damaged , drought ...or consequences of toxic chemicals to try and sustain crop yeilds ? (Reefs disappearing oceans estuaries
Starving for oxygen
Huge deforestation ...undrinkable water.. so many things that could be fixed with Ricks technology !
( indoor stackable hydroponics .. Just one such example .Unfeasible .....except with Ricks technology
  Turning deserts into paradise ...desalinating sea water ,Unfeasible ....except with Ricks technology.
All So Rick and his previous boss could sell us the secrets ??
Something has changed ...the mindset ...if the secrets are true..what does that say about humanity ?
I can sell oxygen or watch a man suffocate for lack of it ?
 Where Are all the customers the last 15/20 years that were taught the secrets ? how do they sleep at night?
 If this is true ..it’s an abomination in my opinion ..a crime against humanity on a global scale which I could never even contemplate ?
 And I could never never ever put my head on the pillow at night with such a secret
end of story .
So Nelson
yeah if I’m wrong I apologize ..if you disagree with what I just wrote then you’re right
We definitely see things differently
 If you need equipment to open source ...don’t hesitate to ask the community .
Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
And I truly hope Stefan  will open source this technology !
 When his friend shares the video here.

 

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