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Offline rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1965 on: August 08, 2019, 08:10:12 AM »
It's been real  ;) I don't let this get to me. It's always a learning experience. I wish you all the best and hope you find what you are looking for!  :)

And on that note, this will be my last post in this thread; I have those productive tasks to tend to, and I'm sure Stefan has his finger on the moderation trigger aimed my way anyway.
I wish you the best in all Rick, and I hope we can part with no animosity (there is none from me anyway).
Its been......well lets leave it at that.
Cheers.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1966 on: August 08, 2019, 09:49:59 AM »
Hi Rick
Just a quick question.
While using a mosfet driver as for a primary switch is simple and clever idea, i realised that its output imbedance is high in comparison with other types of switches. Doesn't that degrade the purpose for which the driver is used? As for a reference tc4420 has about 1,5-2,5 Ohms output impedance depending on its power supply.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1967 on: August 08, 2019, 11:57:58 AM »
Why Brad, you already know what it is. Since you said it was around 50% then that MUST be the truth. Like I said, the owner said it was 94%. It really doesn't matter to me as I have used these fans for years and rotated the batteries back and forth. It wouldn't matter if it was 30% or 80% or 94%.
You always avoid the actual point at hand, that the input was reduced and there was added output. In this simple modification we have gain because the coil has a dual purpose which is suppressed by people like you and mainstream theory and practice. Instead of saying, that's cool Rick, you just attack.
If you can't follow instructions then I can't help you. I did a longer video before with the whole process. But you guys just insult me for showing a long video.

Perhaps you can share with us how you your self have calculated the correct efficiency of the motor,like any good experimenter would do when making claims of free energy.
I mean,i'm saying an efficiency of around 50% from years of experience,and the guy you bought them off says an efficiency of 94%. So how have you confirmed the claimed efficiency of 94% Rick ?--could you run us through your efficiency confirmation test procedure ?--iust so as we all know that you have confirmed the efficiency of the motors you claim give free energy.


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1967 on: August 08, 2019, 11:57:58 AM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1968 on: August 08, 2019, 11:59:01 AM »
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betz%27s_law
kinetic to electric or electric to kinetic

vento= wind and ventilation/wind-ing

"extracting from the wind stream " ~ kinetic to electric

"intracting as wind stream"~ electric to kinetic
ventilator-/fan-/rotor- efficiency x motor efficiency =

                                                   average theoretical  < 50% rotor+ e-motor efficiency ( full load)

work efficiency without variable speed drive : C.O.P. : < 0,25

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1969 on: August 08, 2019, 12:04:17 PM »
I'm sure Brad. Prove to us in video that you have such years of experience. Come on. I expect to see that in 5 minutes or you can't do it.  :o
Again, you are just embarrassing yourself. But you just want to distract from the point as I wrote.
All you do is repeat the same all statements over and over again. You never respond to a single point but just call it names. You are being childish Brad. You argue in a circle and set yourself up as the judge and authority. "You can't do this, You can't do that, because Brad said so."  ::)
Nice comparison to 3 phase. Wow!  :o Maybe you mean you were fazed!

Well first up,you only have to look at my youtube channel to see what i do,and the test equipment i have.

But i'll tell you what Rick,i'll just build a small one tonight,as i have a few of them brushless DC fans lying around. They are only the small cooling fans for computers,but you did state in your video that any brushless DC motor will work,and give us free energy.

At least from this you will be able to see how accurate testing is carried out,instead of your style of testing and measurements you try to make in your video's,where no output energy was measured at all other than a batteries voltage rising slowly,and where your input power shown by the display on your power supply was jumping all over the place. That is just pure junk,and shows nothing at all,but still you claim free energy--just like your friend JB did for many years.


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1970 on: August 08, 2019, 12:41:37 PM »
Why Brad, you already know what it is. Since you said it was around 50% then that MUST be the truth. Like I said, the owner said it was 94%. It really doesn't matter to me as I have used these fans for years and rotated the batteries back and forth. It wouldn't matter if it was 30% or 80% or 94%.
You always avoid the actual point at hand, that the input was reduced and there was added output. In this simple modification we have gain because the coil has a dual purpose which is suppressed by people like you and mainstream theory and practice. Instead of saying, that's cool Rick, you just attack.
If you can't follow instructions then I can't help you. I did a longer video before with the whole process. But you guys just insult me for showing a long video.
My dear Rick  a picture paints a thousand words or so they say so why does the camera point at you and not a close up of the object you have in focus, i'm asking not attacking.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1971 on: August 08, 2019, 05:21:28 PM »
My dear Rick  a picture paints a thousand words or so they say so why does the camera point at you and not a close up of the object you have in focus, i'm asking not attacking.

Regards Raymondo


Rick shows closeups in many of his videos:


1 hour 59 minutes in.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpoOWs8SfVo&t=3s

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1972 on: August 08, 2019, 05:44:41 PM »
Well first up,you only have to look at my youtube channel to see what i do,and the test equipment i have.

But i'll tell you what Rick,i'll just build a small one tonight,as i have a few of them brushless DC fans lying around. They are only the small cooling fans for computers,but you did state in your video that any brushless DC motor will work,and give us free energy.

At least from this you will be able to see how accurate testing is carried out,instead of your style of testing and measurements you try to make in your video's,where no output energy was measured at all other than a batteries voltage rising slowly,and where your input power shown by the display on your power supply was jumping all over the place. That is just pure junk,and shows nothing at all,but still you claim free energy--just like your friend JB did for many years.


Brad
Hi Tin man have you got a build video you can post. regards

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1973 on: August 08, 2019, 06:02:59 PM »
I don't know if this helps evaluation of the RICK but here is a closeup of one of the 3 watt  led bulbs. 

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1973 on: August 08, 2019, 06:02:59 PM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1974 on: August 08, 2019, 06:54:53 PM »
Brad,

I don't show my testing equipment in my videos. My videos are just showing some basic things for everyone so that everyone can do this easily. This is not my industrial work but only basic hobbyist fun.
 
You keep assuming that I am trying to prove something with my videos. This is why you are so upset with me. You expect me to do what you want to do. I do my measurement for myself. I share information and people can do their own measurements.

Now I'm really surprised that you have these brushless DC fans as you have so much distain for them. I thought you would only be owning 98% efficient motors by the sounds of it.

Well, maybe you can make them more efficient now, and actually do some battery charging on top of getting the air flow. It's nice that I brought this to your attention. You're welcome!  ;)

Well first up,you only have to look at my youtube channel to see what i do,and the test equipment i have.

But i'll tell you what Rick,i'll just build a small one tonight,as i have a few of them brushless DC fans lying around. They are only the small cooling fans for computers,but you did state in your video that any brushless DC motor will work,and give us free energy.

At least from this you will be able to see how accurate testing is carried out,instead of your style of testing and measurements you try to make in your video's,where no output energy was measured at all other than a batteries voltage rising slowly,and where your input power shown by the display on your power supply was jumping all over the place. That is just pure junk,and shows nothing at all,but still you claim free energy--just like your friend JB did for many years.


Brad

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1975 on: August 08, 2019, 07:56:25 PM »
Brad,
I'm not doing any of this for you, nor will I do what you demand. While I do things for other people who are not so hostile I find you fairly predictable in your arrogant hostility.

The efficiency of the motor is not the point. You keep committing the ignoration elenchi fallacy and divert to something else that is really related to the subject. If we were focusing on efficiency here, or more importantly COP then I would be doing a different circuit than merely the diode modification. I would also use another motor. You are looking for me to be proving something else here. You fail to take the time to even read what I have written or listen to what I have said.

If the motor was 10% efficient, and the world used it that way, then if I make it more efficient while also resulting in battery charging (say 10% extra work on top) than that is a useful gain. I know that this is not what you want, but I don't care about what you want me to be doing here. We are not addressing the same thing. You are missing the point as always. You have committed yourself to attacking me about your own misunderstanding of what I am doing here. It doesn't matter what the efficiency of the fan is so long as the result has a gain over normal setup. This is just a tiny step in the right direction. The first step is for people to realize that things are not as good as they could be. Can you not agree with that? You would say we should be using more efficient motors. And I agree. You would say we should be using more efficient circuits. I agree. I have shown a simple way to make such widely used fans more efficient while allowing for a small electrical load in addition to that (while the motor has the same CFMs (with less input energy). We obviously disagree with the why and how of this and that is the point of debate. You have made the efficiency of the motor to be the debate because you refuse to consider what I have been saying.

Now I know that if I had presented a self-runner system here that it would be easier for you to see this. But I didn't actually make that video for this forum or to satisfy that desire. It was again mentioned here by someone else. But it still makes a point that needs to be considered: why is no one doing this when these motors have been around since the 70s? Well I am doing that, but always much better (I never use just a diode, and just show it here as an easy thing to do). The bigger point other than making things more useful or efficient, is the fact that I am showing a many-body asymmetrical circuit that uses a floating ground. This is just a tool to begin considering these things. It would like a practical application to what Walter Lewin was showing merely with the reverse volt meter in his lectures about Kirchhoff's loop rule being a special case of Faraday. Can you understand that even if you don't agree with me or Lewin?

I didn't by that from the owner of that company, I bought it from Digikey. Maybe you've heard of that US company. It has the "world's largest selection of electronic components." Maybe that isn't good enough for you. IDK. Again, I decided to call the company and the owner actually called me back and looked up their testing for that fan and they determined it was 94%. It doesn't matter to me if it is less than that or more as I can make the fan run continuously with the other circuits anyway. But it is a nice off-the-shelf practical fan that I have used for many years now.

Now you will divert from the subject and make a big deal about all your skills and tools to try and save face here. You have made many blunders so far and now you are desperate to prove your value on this forum. You recently said you were thinking about giving up because of your many blunders in similar discussions. So now you are desperate to put me down as a tool to show how superior you are to me. That is really sad to see. I have several friends who have watched you from the first days and have actually liked your videos. They are watching you do this and are really disappointed with your hostile attitudes and closemindedness. We all agree that you are a highly reactionary person. You hate Aaron and Bedini so much that you automatically reject anything they mentioned. And that is just immature. Now you are doing the same against me. You stated yesterday that you are on a mission to destroy. That doesn't sound like science but revenge for being embarrassed. But that was your own doing. You made this into a war from the start. You admittedly were prejudiced against me because of former associations with Bedini. Then you apologized for doing that. Then you eventually just went with the tide of attackers and said a whole bunch of foolish things against me again. Then I responded again in great length and you were in the dust and ashes and wrote that you were thinking about giving up all of this. Then you flip flopped again and started saying that I was misrepresenting Tesla when I was actually quoting him. Then you started all over again and said yesterday that I am just Bedini just because I recognized that he said some truth about some matters. I mean really, bedini believed transistors were switching devices, so I guess because you believe that that means you must be Bedini and should be rejected, etc.  ::) You have no dialogue skills and are just a reactionary person. You want to control me but that's not going to happen. I am not reactionary but always benefit from any discussion, even if you heap abuse on me. I can learn from you as well Brad, even if it is what not to do. A mature person can realize where warning parties agree with each other. An unreasonable person just assumes that the other party is wrong in everything (which is actually impossible). You are right in many things. All I'm saying is that what you have experience and believe is limited. The same is true for me. I know very little. Electrodynamics is still in relative infancy because of the prejudices and corporate/institutional greed. But I do know that there is a vast difference between mainstream limited electromagnetism theory and practice and advanced electromagnetism that is used in special systems (like Tesla used) not well known to the general public. Some of that is within many products all around the world for many years. But most of the time these kinds of processes are in anything but energy generation applications.

Perhaps you can share with us how you your self have calculated the correct efficiency of the motor,like any good experimenter would do when making claims of free energy.
I mean,i'm saying an efficiency of around 50% from years of experience,and the guy you bought them off says an efficiency of 94%. So how have you confirmed the claimed efficiency of 94% Rick ?--could you run us through your efficiency confirmation test procedure ?--iust so as we all know that you have confirmed the efficiency of the motors you claim give free energy.


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1976 on: August 09, 2019, 12:14:59 PM »
Brad,
I'm not doing any of this for you, nor will I do what you demand. While I do things for other people who are not so hostile I find you fairly predictable in your arrogant hostility.

The efficiency of the motor is not the point. You keep committing the ignoration elenchi fallacy and divert to something else that is really related to the subject. If we were focusing on efficiency here, or more importantly COP then I would be doing a different circuit than merely the diode modification. I would also use another motor. You are looking for me to be proving something else here. You fail to take the time to even read what I have written or listen to what I have said.

If the motor was 10% efficient, and the world used it that way, then if I make it more efficient while also resulting in battery charging (say 10% extra work on top) than that is a useful gain. I know that this is not what you want, but I don't care about what you want me to be doing here. We are not addressing the same thing. You are missing the point as always. You have committed yourself to attacking me about your own misunderstanding of what I am doing here. It doesn't matter what the efficiency of the fan is so long as the result has a gain over normal setup. This is just a tiny step in the right direction. The first step is for people to realize that things are not as good as they could be. Can you not agree with that? You would say we should be using more efficient motors. And I agree. You would say we should be using more efficient circuits. I agree. I have shown a simple way to make such widely used fans more efficient while allowing for a small electrical load in addition to that (while the motor has the same CFMs (with less input energy). We obviously disagree with the why and how of this and that is the point of debate. You have made the efficiency of the motor to be the debate because you refuse to consider what I have been saying.

Now I know that if I had presented a self-runner system here that it would be easier for you to see this. But I didn't actually make that video for this forum or to satisfy that desire. It was again mentioned here by someone else. But it still makes a point that needs to be considered: why is no one doing this when these motors have been around since the 70s? Well I am doing that, but always much better (I never use just a diode, and just show it here as an easy thing to do). The bigger point other than making things more useful or efficient, is the fact that I am showing a many-body asymmetrical circuit that uses a floating ground. This is just a tool to begin considering these things. It would like a practical application to what Walter Lewin was showing merely with the reverse volt meter in his lectures about Kirchhoff's loop rule being a special case of Faraday. Can you understand that even if you don't agree with me or Lewin?

I didn't by that from the owner of that company, I bought it from Digikey. Maybe you've heard of that US company. It has the "world's largest selection of electronic components." Maybe that isn't good enough for you. IDK. Again, I decided to call the company and the owner actually called me back and looked up their testing for that fan and they determined it was 94%. It doesn't matter to me if it is less than that or more as I can make the fan run continuously with the other circuits anyway. But it is a nice off-the-shelf practical fan that I have used for many years now.

Now you will divert from the subject and make a big deal about all your skills and tools to try and save face here. You have made many blunders so far and now you are desperate to prove your value on this forum. You recently said you were thinking about giving up because of your many blunders in similar discussions. So now you are desperate to put me down as a tool to show how superior you are to me. That is really sad to see. I have several friends who have watched you from the first days and have actually liked your videos. They are watching you do this and are really disappointed with your hostile attitudes and closemindedness. We all agree that you are a highly reactionary person. You hate Aaron and Bedini so much that you automatically reject anything they mentioned. And that is just immature. Now you are doing the same against me. You stated yesterday that you are on a mission to destroy. That doesn't sound like science but revenge for being embarrassed. But that was your own doing. You made this into a war from the start. You admittedly were prejudiced against me because of former associations with Bedini. Then you apologized for doing that. Then you eventually just went with the tide of attackers and said a whole bunch of foolish things against me again. Then I responded again in great length and you were in the dust and ashes and wrote that you were thinking about giving up all of this. Then you flip flopped again and started saying that I was misrepresenting Tesla when I was actually quoting him. Then you started all over again and said yesterday that I am just Bedini just because I recognized that he said some truth about some matters. I mean really, bedini believed transistors were switching devices, so I guess because you believe that that means you must be Bedini and should be rejected, etc.  ::) You have no dialogue skills and are just a reactionary person. You want to control me but that's not going to happen. I am not reactionary but always benefit from any discussion, even if you heap abuse on me. I can learn from you as well Brad, even if it is what not to do. A mature person can realize where warning parties agree with each other. An unreasonable person just assumes that the other party is wrong in everything (which is actually impossible). You are right in many things. All I'm saying is that what you have experience and believe is limited. The same is true for me. I know very little. Electrodynamics is still in relative infancy because of the prejudices and corporate/institutional greed. But I do know that there is a vast difference between mainstream limited electromagnetism theory and practice and advanced electromagnetism that is used in special systems (like Tesla used) not well known to the general public. Some of that is within many products all around the world for many years. But most of the time these kinds of processes are in anything but energy generation applications.

I have to ask Rick,are you also a comedian ? ,as you really have some whacked out idea's.
What i  mean is--you are good for a laugh  :D

But anyway,lets clarify for those here.
You make a video,where within the first couple of minutes you claim to be showing a free energy !fan!. Your idea of free energy is being able to draw a very small amount of energy from the fan without it effecting the speed at which the fan is rotating,or the amount of work the fan is doing,all while the P/in remains the same--right?.

This is why i was asking if you were also a comedian  ::)

You may think your smart with your word's,but there is no substance to anything you say at all,so your fancy talk is just a waste of your time. The reason i dislike bedeni,Aaron,and now you,is because you try and sell stuff based on lies. You claim to have free energy machine's,and Overunity machine's,but you don't --you lie,just as bedini and Aaron do,all in the name of making a dollar from those less aware of your agenda.

You lie in your video's,as you have not once shown a free energy device or an OU device.
You say in your video on the fan that it is free energy,but you know as well as anyone that the !so called! free energy comes from the source the fan is running from. You think because you have increased the efficiency of that fan motor(which we have no way of knowing if you have or have not,as your measurements are just plain rubbish),that the small amount of energy being drawn from it to charge a 12v battery is free  ::). Well the bad news for you is-->it is not free,it was supplied to the fan motor by the source-->your power supply. On top of that,you have no idea as to how efficient your fan is,you have no accurate P/in measurements,and there was nothing hooked up to the charging battery other than a volt meter-->you have to be kidding,right?.

This is how people like you,bedini,and Aaron work.
You continually claim free energy and OU,but you avoid at all costs  actually presenting any sort of accurate data to back up your claim's-->you never have,and you never will-->because you can't.

So while you continue to waffle on about me doing this,and doing that,well atleast i am not a fraud,and i never try and make money from the gullible by selling lies. How do you sleep at night Rick?,knowing full well that what you are doing is just plain wrong--and you say your a man of faith lol.

So Rick,you are either aware of what you are doing,or you really have no clue as to how very simple electronic electromagnetic devices work,nor do you seem to understand the difference between free energy and a small increase in efficiency,due to the slight reduction in core eddy current losses.

You are simply not fooling anyone here Rick,as there are those here that are way above your pay grade when it comes to simple things like all your devices.

I posted a link to a thread you had going here back in 2015,and you did exactly the same thing you are doing now.
You took on the likes of MarkE and MileHigh,and got your ass handed to you by those that know your snake oil salesman pitches. And here you are again,having another go at peddling your garbage-->trying to get the sales up i guess  ::)

Well your simply not going to do any better here now than you did in 2015,as the free energy community is well aware of how people like you operate-->you simply cannot pull the wool over there eyes anymore Rick--those days are over. So now you will have to find some other method of increasing sale's for your !good for nothing! product's.

Sleep well Rick  ;)


Brad

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1977 on: August 09, 2019, 01:17:16 PM »


 I see Rick answered the question I asked to SEAAD


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1978 on: August 09, 2019, 01:46:09 PM »
Well it pointless arguing. What I want to see is a build of the device of the motor that really works.
By saying 'works' i mean that in good faith either from any of you guru's here as I want start getting into a build.

Oh and Please no joke junk stuff stuff of youtube  ;D ;D it's not nice,

Raymondo

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1979 on: August 09, 2019, 01:46:27 PM »
Sorry thought it was a continuation in the thread, Re   Brad and magnet motor saga brad says works, and so does Ricks but it pointless arguing can you both add pointers to the ones that do please.

What I want to see is a build of the device of the motor that really works would be nice
By saying 'works' i mean that in good faith either from any of you guru's here as I want start getting into a build. Before the lights go out if possible

Oh and Please no joke junk stuff stuff of youtube with the old radio active magnets thanks ;D ;D it's not nice as they are toxic for those guys who don't know,

Raymondo

 

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