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Offline ramset

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1875 on: August 03, 2019, 12:48:34 PM »


Now you show a bit more of your loving self ...sorry I have very Bad problems with Visionand seeing the screen ..[Eye Buckle surgeries and Retina detachments, it takes a very long time for me to write ,having to go Back and forth to correct ,I was unaware of this problem with spacing.

that and on this site my Keyboard does not put what I type and how I type
on the page [sentence structure and spacing],I have mentioned this many times here...when I use the phone and talk Type it seems better but even harder to see the screen..[below is a sceenshot of what this post looked like when I pressed send ,and here you can see how it looks.[EDIT this screenshot is after posting a good post and having to go back 20 times to try to make it readable here.

I am amazed that you write Liable here against a Known Man implying an act of deception.
and it would be a mute point if many could replicate your simple circuit
and show a gain mechanism here for others to see

also we have the option here of using a Lab that has a volunteerwho could replicate this gain ?
The Lab in Orlando that helps people here and elsewhere search for technologies to share with the world  some here would send all the pieces there to be assembled
and shared.


for clarity you are saying there is a gain which will manifest in the lab ..or we can Hire a lab to investigate ,   

I have worked with test labs all my working life..there are plenty who could do a 3rd party certified report .and post the results here,their  reputations are on the line every time they write and certify a report
we are after all talking about saving millions of lives here ...with Your technology ...and some would say it will save our planet too.

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« Reply #1877 on: August 03, 2019, 01:13:01 PM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1878 on: August 03, 2019, 01:19:29 PM »
Chet!
Chet!
Why
are
you
leaving
so
many
spaces?
Are
you
drawing
attention
to
yourself?  8)
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Quote from: ramset on August 02, 2019, 08:06:52 PM

 Raymondo
….

 I am not certain this is just one man’s opinion
q
RaycathodeQuote
   I'm actually working on a device Jb style with a row or Neo magnets mounted on square steel section over a steel threaded section all north on one side and south on the other side but no slip rings used, instead I used 2 hall effect this gives a half circle magnetic effect that changes over every 180 deg. the circuit is a JB design that's supposed to recharge the battery. Unfortunately this design does not give any null point (dead zone) considering it's supposed to be an over unity generator ! It cant do both at the same time. I don't thing its funny !!

Raymondo End Quote 
  =================================================
 Raymondo
 You see this problem you’re having right now
Seems you purchased information or read information or whatever??
 and assumed a result which you are not experiencing on the bench
 And yes it’s not funny

   Please be aware I did find a solution to this problem which I have not implemented yet as it's on a 'bread board' layout
   what it involves is to use one of the quad nand gates or a nor gates which involves a cap a resistor and a direction steering diode
   to shorten the on time or off time depending on the user of the gate in order to allow BEMF you have kick back time.. no doubt i will get round to building it on a
   pcb as It will need two sets one for each hall output and perhaps a red green LED to make it look good.


   Would you have preferred that you could have researched this information here at this forum where experimenters  have done
   the experiments and share the results openly for others to compare
   perhaps have learned not to waste your time there if that is indeed what you are saying I’m not certain?

   For clarity no such information is available anywhere to my knowledge
   That is to say such a database supported by a group of membership that is available if need be to engage .....or perhaps through
   representatives to engage (ask questions)?

   This is my dream for this venue
   and all these builders being helped by this community to do other experiments ...real science perhaps?
   in my opinion with all our resources and connections to universities scientists  EE,s  specialists in all fields and amazingly gifted
   builders worldwide

   Stephen has a tiger by the tail ..and can bring his mission statement to fruition.

   Here we have thousands of YouTube and other kinds of videos that need to be categorized
   Persons who have very good test equipment and show and share their results.
   With Complete transparency for discussion.... always
   In case something was missed ?

   What you witnessed here these last weeks were many of those same person’s  and there need to be sure nothing was missed on
   their own benches
   Others are more confident perhaps much more experienced but always ask for enough detail to experience this claim 
   themselves
   Here it is a system of checks and balances so no one person can take the stage and make a claim which holds no water , For or
   against a claim .

   If the forum has that kind of reputation  that is to say where nothing is dismissed without proof
   there is little concern for Hidden agendas of secrecy ....  or similar nonsense claims.
   Some  one will find a way if they are frightened of release themselves to get the information to others to investigate or try  or at
   least discuss .

   And that needs to happen in a venue where there are many men of like mind For checks and balances so that no one man once
   again holds all the information of the claim and it is  discussed within a group of like-minded individuals .
   Here I  emphasize an open source venue.

   Here we can build such a place and maximize our time and efforts
   And we have plenty of good builders with much experience to help vet claims

   As a community ...I feel and have always felt those builders need to be helped in some way
   So as to not carry so much burden themselves When they work for the benefit of all.

   There are a few things right now from these last few days that need a more thorough explanation

   You have to understand this will be a lot of work for Stephen ....to make a section where members teaching videos Are shared or
   discussed

   Perhaps someone has an algorithm which can input questions into a database of videos ??
   I am unaware of such , however I am certain it exists .

   Sorry for such a long post but we need to fix this and move forward .
   I am not certain this is just one man’s opinion

q
'rickfriedrich' Please stay cool and explain, i'm not your enemy ??
of course if you so wished as you appear to moderate the moderator you could just
ask  Stefan for moderator control of your very own thread and halt all input accordingly.
I Just thought i would leave you with that thought.

Raymondo

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1879 on: August 03, 2019, 01:37:27 PM »
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High have you got this to work, some guy (the guru to you)( a guy with a north german accent),  says he got slung off you tube
for publishing this, another guy who said he built it said it was difficult to get going and it needed
a driver and he got little return, but who really knows for sure,

Raymondo
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1880 on: August 03, 2019, 04:36:49 PM »
Rick  Here I will show my problem posting at this site [your reference post# 1878 and my response was in post 1881 ].You will see what I write here in the screen shot below ,prior to clicking send. [edit read that if you  can't read this]
  As mentioned, we have access to a Lab in Orlando which for many years has tried to get FE techs out
to the world.There is a man who volunteers there and has helped there and elsewhere for quite some time.actually several  volunteers  there.  If you will make a brief PDF ,members here will do the rest [get whatever is needed there]and all will be shared here and elsewhere. Or we can hire an independent test lab which will use Certified and calibrated equipment all documentedand a certified test report ,which is standard operating procedure for them every day ,there reputations
and integrity is on the line. I agree with Ray you could work here as Wesley and Bruce TPU and a few others Do.
EDIT to add/I have worked all my  life with test labs ,in extremely sensitive and high liability areas /where many many persons lives depend on the results being accurate  /.NYC,Boston and all along the Northeast corridor of the USA/Both as a field rep and freelance ...always using certified equipment with upto the minute calibrations/These reports are not allowed to be inaccurate ,lives and reputations rely on that /respectfully/Chet K/Ps/I put a slash everywhere I dropped to the line below in this Edit /And here you read how the forum wrote this post,The problem varies every time ./IMO not everyone wants open source out there.
 

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1881 on: August 03, 2019, 06:25:20 PM »
Raymondo,
That reply was not to you but Chet. I was merely pointing out that there were very large spaces between sentences and at the end of the posts from Chet. I only included a few words to show which post I was replying to. Such spaces just make for lengthy posts for no reason. Obviously I am always criticized for long posts, but adding many spaces is no content and makes for many more pages. I always try to remove the spaces in the replies so as to keep the format as short as possible. Not a big deal. I was just noticing the excessive spacing. Others have complained along similar lines when people make pictures too wide.

'rickfriedrich' Please stay cool and explain, i'm not your enemy ??
of course if you so wished as you appear to moderate the moderator you could just
ask  Stefan for moderator control of your very own thread and halt all input accordingly.
I Just thought i would leave you with that thought.

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« Reply #1882 on: August 03, 2019, 08:26:40 PM »
I think that may be the same Lab I have dealt with some years ago. I was invited down to Orlando for two days to do consulting. One of my customers there had hired an engineer to put together my large 10 coiler and another 20 coiler monopole. They had a problem with the 20 coiler. After about 10 minutes I realized that the negative buss connection had a massive cold solder joint so that it was intermittently turning on and off. So I fixed it and then it worked properly. Later they changed it around with big circular busses. I mentioned that setup recently in a video, and in a more recent video showed the 10 coiler from Orlando. These guys were doing various things over the years and mentioned from time to time some details. Apparently one of the guys is on OUR so it may be the same Lab. Another one of these guys who was associated lives up this way and works with a local college doing similar research. These guys are not closed to OU research (obviously) and have shared that they have had some success over the years. I don't have any close relations with them so I can't confirm their work. While I know many scientists and engineers in the government and military and related work, I decided long ago not to get involved with anything that directly or indirectly deals with weapons or warfare because I am of the non-aggression anti-violence persuasion. And that includes people in (or formerly in) Lockheed and darpa, etc. These guys already have all this anyway. Many OU technologies compete with such entities and their agendas and that is why they are not allowed for the public and limit what people can show. I'm not bringing this up as a point, but only to say why I have refused to work with various Labs and people (even though I have demonstrated to such)...

Labs are made up of people with motives. If you want to consider the work of Labs that have published already on these subjects, then consider the work that T. W. Barrett has published as I have mentioned. No need for new testing when there are plenty of examples over the last 70 years. Barrett himself, as a leading authority in this work, has published many very import works. He is a top level scientist and his latest book was sponsored by Ratheon, DoD, etc., and relates to this research (and what I have done with the Resonance coils): Resonance And Aspect Matched Adaptive Radar (Ramar). Such works are above what people are able to understand here but I have tried to bring about some of his earlier work that directly deals with the various systems I have demonstrated on a basic level and with Tesla's systems. You guys should not be ignoring this but be all over it. Barrett and associates have provided hundreds of citations for you to examine. No one wants to consider that, perhaps because it above their ability to understand or else they don't want to admit it. That's why I said this is old news. OU and Free Energy are long proven out in all the ways necessary. It has also been used in many ways as well in existing technology. Barrett did this with optics. What I have been doing is making it as simple as possible for the average person. I'm trying to avoid all the advanced language, convoluted processes, and expensive parts and procedures so that the poor can take parts around them and make them work. And this is what has happened all around the world. You mock me for not doing what I have actually been doing for 15 years now. I'm trying to teach people in an effective way and remove the psychological obstacles (like prejudice). You guys demand this and that, while regular people just get right to work and use the technology. I'm not here to try and prove something or get recognition. I have just passed on information. If you want the kind of proof you are asking for then read Barrett. You can do all the experiments and see for yourself if the various Labs and scientists were wrongfully awarded Nobel prices or were mistaken. What you guys have done here is tried to convince readers of these forums that no one has ever proven anything like this in a Lab, and you have taunted people making OU claims with your demands to prove something through you as you outlined below (as if you are some judge). You bank on the fact that common readers are not familiar with advanced physics history over the last 120 years, and press the truncated Maxwell under unity college level electrodynamics as if it is some absolute or universal (because that is all you know). If you have a problem with that statement then show us why Barrett was wrong in his historical analysis of what happen with Maxwell's equations and the resulting removal of the A potential, etc.

You can hire people to produce the exact outcomes you want. Darren will be sure to make zero gains even as he assumed I was off by 150 to 250 times with LEDs. There is your expert with his conclusion before he has even begun testing. It's like General Mills paying millions of dollars for 10 year testing trying to get support for the nutritional benefits of processed sugar, or the tobacco industry doing the same sort of thing. How many professors will personally, and quietly, admit many things that they have actually done in their Labs, but will not risk their reputations or be allowed to publish the truth. Labs lie all the time because motives are real. But we already have the findings published at the highest levels if you do your homework. The big corporations are profit based and not humanitarian. They control the schools and public sentiment. If knowledge equaled action then so many things would be different in this world. But people ignore and suppress what they know to be true and selling of energy is one of the most profitable trades.

You have to come to grips with this Chet. Your reasonings are rather naïve. You don't know what has already been published. You don't know the history of electrodynamics. But you want to give the impression that people are only entitled to believe in OU claims if someone other than themselves certifies it for them. That's not the intention of this forum, and there is no grounds for anyone to come under that pressure. That reasoning makes Mythbusters legitimate. These appeals are identical entertainment and distractions when you have abundant testing confirmed over all these years. No, it is not my specific setups but all the parts of the whole are confirmed already. And if you are really serious then do your homework first and then you will have no problem seeing the consistency of what I have been showing. I presented here with the expectation that you guys would continue to do all this with all the arrogance. But in the end everyone can see that you are all only at the basic levels of this science. The first absurdity was thinking that you can prove something like this over the internet with videos and pictures. That was a really immature assumption that is still hotly resisted. You guys repeatedly claim that you are experts and work with Labs, etc. But is that so? Do you really know the advanced technology and science? No, obviously. So now you look silly waving all the prestige jargon appeal as if trying to sound like an authority (not speaking so much of you directly Chet) while you ignore those at the highest levels.

Again, start at the beginning and when you figure it out, then tell us why you have any rational reason to expect to believe in OU. G finally admitted that there was not reason. Nobody wants to address that fundamental starting point. Tell me, did not Faraday and Maxwell give such grounds? Why was that eliminated? Once you open up that door you will find everything you are looking for. You have to realize that everything is in a context. You will look at things from the context you are in.

  As mentioned, we have access to a Lab in Orlando which for many years has tried to get FE techs out
to the world.There is a man who volunteers there and has helped there and elsewhere for quite some time.actually several  volunteers  there.  If you will make a brief PDF ,members here will do the rest [get whatever is needed there]and all will be shared here and elsewhere. Or we can hire an independent test lab which will use Certified and calibrated equipment all documentedand a certified test report ,which is standard operating procedure for them every day ,there reputations
and integrity is on the line. I agree with Ray you could work here as Wesley and Bruce TPU and a few others Do.
EDIT to add/I have worked all my  life with test labs ,in extremely sensitive and high liability areas /where many many persons lives depend on the results being accurate  /.NYC,Boston and all along the Northeast corridor of the USA/Both as a field rep and freelance ...always using certified equipment with upto the minute calibrations/These reports are not allowed to be inaccurate ,lives and reputations rely on that /respectfully/Chet K/Ps/I put a slash everywhere I dropped to the line below in this Edit /And here you read how the forum wrote this post,The problem varies every time ./IMO not everyone wants open source out there.
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1883 on: August 03, 2019, 09:09:43 PM »
.will respond in a few days ,this response above confused me more than helped me,also completely confused by Military comments as they apply to the request.
















 




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« Reply #1884 on: August 04, 2019, 04:22:41 AM »
I'm avoiding mentioning names of the group in Orlando on the forum.

.will respond in a few days ,this response above confused me more than helped me,also completely confused by Military comments as they apply to the request.

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« Reply #1885 on: August 04, 2019, 12:51:19 PM »
 Did not want to bump the thread ,but see the time window has past for posting back there.
and You posted again , I have no idea about posting names of persons you sold machines to ,Nor was it ever my intention .It must have something to do with you not allowing a demonstration of this simple claim at your customers Lab..again the subject of the Energy Audit here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0pWApv7jdk&t=1s

 will just pay attention for now,and keep trying to find someone who will share .maybe a member here will Share?

Maybe A King will get something working or Stefan's friend.and then a demonstration will happen at the Lab there in Orlando and all the members here can Build it.

in the mean time there are other secrets to investigate ,and honestly I am not mocking you Rick ..about your comment that you help some poor the last 15 years...does that mean we don't need to Bother ? FE forums... hundreds of thousands of members to build and share..
 Not mocking just Stupefied ! I need some tape to hold my Jaw closed now...
 

 

 

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« Reply #1886 on: August 04, 2019, 04:13:27 PM »
Did not want to bump the thread ,but see the time window has past for posting back there.
and You posted again , I have no idea about posting names of persons you sold machines to ,Nor was it ever my intention .It must have something to do with you not allowing a demonstration of this simple claim at your customers Lab..again the subject of the Energy Audit here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0pWApv7jdk&t=1s

 will just pay attention for now,and keep trying to find someone who will share .maybe a member here will Share?

Maybe A King will get something working or Stefan's friend.and then a demonstration will happen at the Lab there in Orlando and all the members here can Build it.

in the mean time there are other secrets to investigate ,and honestly I am not mocking you Rick ..about your comment that you help some poor the last 15 years...does that mean we don't need to Bother ? FE forums... hundreds of thousands of members to build and share..
 Not mocking just Stupefied ! I need some tape to hold my Jaw closed now...
I don't understand your comment here. I am not into moving systems. If anyone out there has one of these fans they can easily do an energy audit.

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« Reply #1887 on: August 04, 2019, 04:28:20 PM »
AKing 21
 I apologize if you have not experimented with the video you posted
 I know you have been trying very hard to get things to the point that others could replicate also
 Stephan has experimented in the past perhaps we can send Stephen the bits and pieces he needs for this .
 Regardless .....any gain mechanism that can help this planet... needs to be open sourced everywhere possible... as fast as possible... below is a place I’m very fond of ,As anyone who reads here knows..
 LENR
https://overunity.com/18267/tadahiko-mizuno-lenr-breakthrough-cop-
-5-and-up-to-10-seeking-replication/msg538062/#new

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« Reply #1888 on: August 04, 2019, 09:15:39 PM »
Chet,
I thought you were going to call me about this today?
I think you need to take a little more time to read through posts and type things out more clearly. You are not being clear exactly what you are talking about. Seems really confused or mixing a bunch of different things together or something  :o
Like bump what thread? What time window has past? Posted again?
As for posting names, I texted you what I was getting at yesterday. I was just wondering if it was the same Lab, and I told you that I didn't want to work with any Labs that had people who were formerly from certain sectors. You didn't confirm or deny that, and you texted that you would call about that.
So it is a little confusing for you to say no idea about posting names. Of course you don't have any idea about names of persons as I just asked you that name.
I didn't not allow a demonstration at that Lab. I wrote that I got it running as normal. They used those motors for years and they claimed that they worked as expected and powered various loads as I mentioned in the video. Why do you twist everything Chet? Are you not paying attention or are you trying to confuse the matter and make me look bad in that?

Anyway, that Lab in Orlando has already proven my claims out. All I was saying was that I wouldn't do any joint venture with them because of their former connections. That didn't stop me form going down there and troubleshooting their problem and demonstrating it fixed. I also answered their questions.

I guess you don't get it Chet. I did share all there is needed to know over the last 15 years. You keep saying such things as if there is nothing shown. People don't have problems making these things work.

Like I wrote, I am working on the new website with the information organized in one place. That is better to do than a hodgepodge ramble on a forum. People need to consider everything about free energy and the fundamental principles rather than just jump into some parts. The methodology is everything.

Did not want to bump the thread ,but see the time window has past for posting back there.
and You posted again , I have no idea about posting names of persons you sold machines to ,Nor was it ever my intention .It must have something to do with you not allowing a demonstration of this simple claim at your customers Lab..again the subject of the Energy Audit here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0pWApv7jdk&t=1s

 will just pay attention for now,and keep trying to find someone who will share .maybe a member here will Share?

Maybe A King will get something working or Stefan's friend.and then a demonstration will happen at the Lab there in Orlando and all the members here can Build it.

in the mean time there are other secrets to investigate ,and honestly I am not mocking you Rick ..about your comment that you help some poor the last 15 years...does that mean we don't need to Bother ? FE forums... hundreds of thousands of members to build and share..
 Not mocking just Stupefied ! I need some tape to hold my Jaw closed now...

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« Reply #1889 on: August 04, 2019, 11:30:35 PM »
Sorry I could not talk last night , Thought your "OK" response meant we would talk prior to more postings... at 5:30 this AM I noticed you posted [was surprised] and wanted to Talk priorto making a fresh post [or bumping the thread ] went to the last post I made to leave a Note there for you to read [I do this often to not just keep Bumping the topic with more info or posts.]But this forum has a time limit and that option stops and you can no longer Post.
So I just posted......as always from my heart.  One thing I want to say,the fellow who volunteers at that lab and helps..is just an older [87 years young] retired engineer living in Florida on his pension..I understand after talking to you that you feel uncomfortable with someone with a past in the military sector [his higher classification or experience] ,but I don't want persons to think that Lab is connected in anyway to such a past ,the owner did also let QEG [Morocco Hope girl] have full access to the lab when they were supposedly sharing with the world,but removed them when it became apparent there were issues with the claim.For many years they have helped test ideas and do experiments .IMO a great asset and anyone who carries water for this open source cause is a friend .

We shall see what the future brings here regarding the Gain mechanism mentioned in your Video and on the phone [again]
looking forward to that,...I personally feel there is much confusion around this and has been for many years ,would be amazing to see this .... Hopefully Stefan's friend will share ....or someone else here.

Was good to talk again ,Chet K


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