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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 255466 times)

Offline Raycathode

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1830 on: August 01, 2019, 06:54:38 PM »
Jeepers, man.  You come into this thread late and Rick has to reinvent the wheel.  Go to the beginning and read the posts.  Rick shows the inductor upon inductor upon inductor powering his loads in one of his lengthy videos.  If you are gonna criticise Rick then do it on the basis of facts not pubtalk.
Well It's not the sort of answer one would expect unless as he says, if i was in a pub, well thanks for that but I don't frequent pubs on the other hand as you didn't bother to point me to what your thinking of don't you think  your   behavior is  lacking of appropriate seriousness or earnestness here? any way I have more serious issues to get on with thanks.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Offline ramset

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1831 on: August 01, 2019, 07:07:27 PM »
Rick quote
But this is a coordinated effort by real trolls with a mission. For anyone with any real desire to know these things does not act the way that several of you are acting. Neither does anyone who thinks it is all nonsense.
end quote ....No Rick this is what it looks like when you walk into an open source builder group and say "Build this" .[if thats not what you were saying or implying ? ...its what we heard !!]Its why open source forums thrive ...The model speaks for itself... needs
no critique or endorsement .


Very true ...we took you to heart and listened ..thought you would lead with Build info [PDF]
But instead just drop crumbs to some plans ...Reality is you are in an Open source venue ...its not your fault.
You have different priorities which don't fit here [open source]..or this conversation would be different  and all of these open source fellows would just be saying thank you instead of "HUH"?

 I will wait for Stefan to open source ,and then ...watch the internet teach and share.... Chet K
  PS..Please no more same old same old ...I will not write here again ,just waiting on Stefan

Offline rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1832 on: August 01, 2019, 08:47:13 PM »
Wow, thanks for enlightening us.
You don't know what anyone does in the real world. All you do is assume the worst. That is your entire contribution here.

Hi Rick, No, you haven't. That is the problem. :)
You could easily silence any critics by simply showing a reasonable demonstration
which includes proper measurements or which is self-looped, showing something unusual going on,
but you do not do this. It should be no surprise if people are skeptical in such a case.

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Offline rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1833 on: August 01, 2019, 09:24:49 PM »
I don't see you guys writing about building. You are merely arguing against OU and slandering and diverting. It doesn't matter what this group was intended for, you guys have not kept to that over the last 1.5 months. This has turned into a debate which you have lost. I was sharing but you guys just attacked me whenever I shared anything. Then you demand more. This is exactly the work of trolls. Completely insincere. Merely trying to entrap me at every opportunity.
The problem is that you guys have been fundamentally wrong on these points:
POINTS HAVING BEEN PROVEN SINCE JUNE 2019:
1. OU Claims and Disproof OU Claims Cannot be Proven Over Video, Pictures, and Words Over the Internet. People Can Only do Science and Prove Truths of Demonstration to Themselves In The Real World.
2. Forums Can Only Provide Information to Other People which Needs Personal Verification Unless it is Self-evident.
3. Free Energy and Over Unity Do Not Imply Self-running or Self-looping, while the Inverse is True.

You don't want to admit this. There can be no builder's group if you are expecting impossible things from someone. If you don't even know what science is how can you expect to do science?
The problem is that I have made this all available for years and tens of thousands of people or more have been thankful for that. Maybe you think the world revolves around you, but it a little bigger than that Chet. I'm teaching the principles of free energy with various examples that I have publicly shown over the years. On the one hand you demand certain things, but the next moment you mock me and say it is all impossible. It's like bipolar. It is really A Game of Trolls with the weapons being fallacies. You never took me to heart. I was attacked from the first moment. I have saved all the posts Chet. There are no crumbs here. You just attack anything that is shared.
Look, you saw what your expert Darren or whatever his name is said. He said I was off by 150 to 250 times on the LED. On what grounds? And he is your ultimate judge as you people on OUR have set up. He is obviously the same over here. He is completely prejudiced. And you wonder why I have shared as I have. This whole thing has backfired for you guys. You thought you could disprove OU through these forums by just running over people with fallacies. But I carefully shared what I did to expose all of this while helping sincere people see all the lies and tricks you people pull. None of you trolls will admit the points above now which were settled because of me. So if you can't admit any foundation then you are insincere. You just want circular logic. None of you wants to admit any basis for free energy or OU but you just keep reasoning and assuming against the possibility. Why not explain to me how OU is even possible? Why not tell me why you refuse to answer such questions. It took G a long time to finally admit that he had no grounds for belief at all. He had said the opposite. How can you confirm something is OU if you have no way of understanding what is even possible? The problem it is just not true that "the model speaks for itself." You trolls have already declared that no matter what I say or show it has to be false. But I have shown things for 15 years to thousands of people. That is what I show, real things to real people. Buy who are you trolls? We will never know.

You trolls have failed but you have succeeded in ruining forums like this and discouraging people to participate. I have watched many people come onto such forums and be instantly attacked. No doubt many people are mistaken in what they think they have, but this kind of response surely drives people away from sharing anything. And that your whole agenda isn't it. Draw as much as you can out of them and then attack them in the end to drive them away. I can't prevent you from doing that, so you will continue to win that battle so long as forums allow that.

Rick quote
But this is a coordinated effort by real trolls with a mission. For anyone with any real desire to know these things does not act the way that several of you are acting. Neither does anyone who thinks it is all nonsense.
end quote ....No Rick this is what it looks like when you walk into an open source builder group and say "Build this" .[if thats not what you were saying or implying ? ...its what we heard !!]Its why open source forums thrive ...The model speaks for itself... needs
no critique or endorsement .


Very true ...we took you to heart and listened ..thought you would lead with Build info [PDF]
But instead just drop crumbs to some plans ...Reality is you are in an Open source venue ...its not your fault.
You have different priorities which don't fit here [open source]..or this conversation would be different  and all of these open source fellows would just be saying thank you instead of "HUH"?

 I will wait for Stefan to open source ,and then ...watch the internet teach and share.... Chet K
  PS..Please no more same old same old ...I will not write here again ,just waiting on Stefan

Offline rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1834 on: August 01, 2019, 09:31:20 PM »
If this is the way you reason or behave in cyberland then you have no credibility about what you say about the real world.
It is one thing to have a healthy skepticism and another to positively state that someone has not done something which you have no way of knowing (lying while calling someone a liar). As I wrote, you have no value to OU research discussions. Your name says it all: Void.

Actually Rick, based on many years of experience, I am very much aware of what people do in the real world,
and that is why I maintain a healthy skepticism about sketchy claims. :)
I am a reasonable person. If I see something which appears reasonable, I will be much more receptive to it.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Offline ramset

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1835 on: August 01, 2019, 10:09:34 PM »
Rick  Please site a post where I was rude of chased persons away
or discouraged persons from sharing experiments here or anywhere.EVER !!
Just one will do !!


















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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1836 on: August 01, 2019, 10:40:36 PM »
Well It's not the sort of answer one would expect unless as he says, if i was in a pub, well thanks for that but I don't frequent pubs on the other hand as you didn't bother to point me to what your thinking of don't you think  your   behavior is  lacking of appropriate seriousness or earnestness here? any way I have more serious issues to get on with thanks.

Raymondo


Ok Maybe I was a bit hash.  Here's a video on series line propagation by Rick.  You can understand why he gets annoyed sometimes when this stuff is out there.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3JyRMdJhzg&t=7s

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Offline rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1837 on: August 01, 2019, 11:46:06 PM »
You got to be kidding. On the OUR forum at least you did that and I returned the following text to you in July 19th: "Maybe you could take back your harsh assumptions on the forum." You replied: "Will remove". I believe I replied to that on the forum so that your removed example would still be there. I haven't gone on that forum for a while so I don't know if I am still a member.
I really don't have time for you up and down games Chet. You guys can continually repeat the same things over and over and hope that people just look at your words. But it is evident what you are up to.

Rick  Please site a post where I was rude of chased persons away
or discouraged persons from sharing experiments here or anywhere.EVER !!
Just one will do !!

Offline rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1838 on: August 01, 2019, 11:48:20 PM »
Void can you please stop with spamming this thread the same nonsense over and over?

Dang Rick, can you please stop with spamming this thread the same nonsense over and over?

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1839 on: August 02, 2019, 12:50:08 AM »
For clarity I don't intend to post another word here towards Rick beyondwhats written below
Rick surely you jest ...I wrote similar posts here after that one you said was Harsh at OUR [so I removed it.. giving you the benefit of the doubt] .
I wrote that you profess Christian values  and your actions here are the antithesis of the faith .
I wrote that you dillydallied to bring these technologies to the world while children suffered and died worldwide


while mass  extinctions took place and mass migrations from human suffering


I wrote of you mentioning a 10 year plan and how it must be nice to have the luxury of time when  you   Have a full stomach and refrigerator filled with food ...clean water ...How you Flush water down the toilet that’s probably cleaner than billions of people have to dip into for their daily needs
And how your boat demonstration was probably on a lake that many suffering people would think they died and went to heaven to have as drinking water.


I wrote. ” on to Home so ever much is given much is required” and “to the least of these Thy brethren “


 I wrote that you should scream this Life-saving technology from the biggest platform and the highest mountain.. how the few hundred thousand membersin the various forums were tremendous assets towards this.
 
 you point fingers instead of looking in the Mirror.


I’m sorry you think that’s rude but I must admit in the court of public opinion such technology withheld from humanity for the sake of
 What was your reason again ?
 I guarantee I could ask a kindergarten child this question and they would know the right thing to do


  Your videos are confusing to me your efforts to get this technology to the world
 In my opinion border on extreme indifference and negligence Towards your fellow man.
 How those who need this the most ...don’t even have access to the Internet


Not sure if I wrote this but I feel it’s completely true


 If your family and loved ones were suffering for lack of freshwater food and all the other necessities that this could bring to them ...if your children were starving


I think you would have a completely different view and time frame .10 years ...?  10 seconds is too long when a childs life hangs in the balance
 It’s all about perspective Rick everything is good at your house ... so it’s all good .


And now you come and write stories or untruths About me suppressing life-saving technologies here


Ok Rick I’m stupid and don’t understand ...
 Am I just one of the disposable millions That may or may not live long enough or until you open your website


Please leave this place and take the time to open your website ..come back and post the link I’ll beat every drum I’ll Yell it from every place.


 After all we’re not talking about a gardening forum or basket weaving
You hold the keys to many lives RIck
Those lives are in your hands until you teach someone else and then those lives are in their hands too and so on and so on and so on


 Because someplace there is a family with absolutely nothing.... actually untold numbers of families .


None of us are free until all of us are free!
end of story and I am not responding unless you chose to share ...or chose to slander me again ... My name is in this forum since day one and my passion along with it.
I always try to treat another person the way I would expect or hope to be treated.and I was shocked to see you allowed others here who were trying so hard who had language issues and difficulty understanding your videos

how you just treated them with contempt instead of guiding them.I'm not twisting anything..just paying attention and hoping for the best.

Edit for Rick below
no mocking just the truth  "you will know them by their works.
no Drama here Rick Just the goals in the mission statement !
not an act either Rick its a life choice ,I am consistent for many years and counting.as you are also consistent ,and no need to ask what and how you share this great burden ? its all over these pages ,and not one offer of help to those who Build here just to customers ...Not a very Christlike choice ..not just an opinion..
When soo many Lives truly do hang in the balance your dismissive attitude says it all "Drama queen"yes Rick I know ..everything looks fine from your house.and no assumptions here ,just paying attention to the Void you left where help should have been .
Rick Quote
That's my business.  end quote..
anxiously awaiting Stefan's  friend and what he will share.


























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Offline WhatIsIt

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1840 on: August 02, 2019, 02:00:41 AM »
I've just received mail from Mr. Gear.
His team tested Rick's two and three battery system and measurement showed underunity in both test.
However, they also purchased through third person Rick's kit and will analyze it and make transient power measurement within next few days, along with some more complicated tests involved looped reactive power.
For the tests been precise, team has been split into two.
Every group will conduct its own methods with state of the art equipement.
Result of each group will be evaluated by Mr. Gear and his consultants.

The goal of test is determine does motor/load kit is COP>1, or OU, and if not, how efficient they are.
I dont have information what kit they purchase and Mr. Gear explaimed that he will reveal only test results, but not data and videos made during test.
Data and videos will remain in company possesions and can be viewed only through bussines agreement, after Rick will be contacted if test will be positive.
At least he will release final conclusion in public, which can not hurt company interest.

I think this is fair from his side. At the end he represents company interests and even final conclusion is much.

If test show positive results, Rick will be contacted and he will be presented with bussines proposal.

From his words test will be conducted very professional and with top gear which exists.
He mentioned possible complex measurements involved reactive power loop, but lots of what he spoke is out of my league.

So, stefan, you asked me to build it. I cant.
But found person who can and it is not problem for him.
Actually, I will be glad if results turns positive, and this whole story ends well.
Finally, Mr. Gear has possibility to do.it and I believe he will.

He said that every investigation of his which turns out even partially success was good for company and bussines deal has been made.
Until now he did not find true self runner but he found few very clever solutions which company paid well and inventors were satisfied.
True results were published through real patents which can actually be build and work.

I hope this will help,

Cheers!

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Offline rickfriedrich

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1841 on: August 02, 2019, 03:13:35 AM »
Wow Chet,
You're a real drama queen and extremely naïve. But then again, I don't believe your act either.
Like I said, that's a lot of assumption. You don't know a thing about what I have done and do. Do you have any evidence to back up this assumption? No. So this is beyond silly.
I'm not falling for the bait that you are putting out to get me to share the things I have done and am doing. That's my business.
If you don't care to listen to what I have shared then I can't help you. If you guys want to twist everything and mock people who share things then you reveal who you are to everyone.

For clarity I don't intend to post another word here towards Rick beyondwhats written below
Rick surely you jest I wrote similar posts here after that one at OUR .

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1842 on: August 02, 2019, 03:45:16 AM »
Dang Rick, can you please stop with spamming this thread the same nonsense over and over?

From what I understood from Stefan, Stefan said his friend will be doing some sort of demo,
so I hope they considered my suggestions to try using 1 to 3 Watt incandescent bulbs in
place of LED bulbs, and I hope they show what happens when they try to self-loop it.
I will be interested to see how that goes... :)
How about using 5 to 30 watt incandescent bulbs instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFP6c7lwyoE
Or powering a high voltage oscillator/flyback driver wirelessly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aKuwNTiO7I
(In that last video the flyback driver Frequency Generator Oscillator, which is powered by the Wireless Receiver,  is nearly the same circuit as the Wireless Power Transmitter ... so this is nearly a "daisy chain" demonstration. Thank goodness nothing can be proven over the internet, except that nothing can be proven over the internet.)

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1843 on: August 02, 2019, 07:47:51 AM »
How about using 5 to 30 watt incandescent bulbs instead?

Hi TK. Well, let's not confuse the issue. :)  I think if Stefan's
friend replaces his 3W LED bulbs with 3W incandescent bulbs, he
just isn't likely at all going to see any lights lighting up much at all, but if those LED lights are really
consuming over 1W each as was assumed, then those 3W incandescent bulbs should light up
a fair bit. I'd like to see an accurate measurement of the input power from the battery as well. 
I don't expect that anything much unusual will likely be found if such tests are conducted.


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1844 on: August 02, 2019, 11:41:33 AM »
Just fiddled around for some hour.
Ohh, remember nothing can be proved at this forum . . . . .

 

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